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06/07/2004 6:28 AM

1/2" Overlay Hinge Help

Hi,

I am in the process of refacing my kitchen cabinets during which I am
also replacing all of the cabinet hardware. I have face-frame
cabinets. The old hinges are 1/2" overlay partial wrap self-closing
hinges. I would have no problem re-using them except for the fact
that I am replacing the pulls with a different finish. I am having a
heck of a time finding this type of hinge in a brushed satin nickel
finish (the same as my pulls). So my questions to you guys, the pros,
are:

1) Anyone know of a place where I can find this type of hinge in the
finish I am looking for?

2) I have read a lot about European-style hinges which are
fully-concealed. I'd love to use those but they all seem to require
drilling a mortise(?) (sorry, I'm not sure of the correct terminology)
in the doors themselves so they can be installed properly.
Unfortunately I do not have the tools nor the woodworking skills to do
that on my own. Are there similar hinges that would not require this
extra step? I've seen "non-mortise" fully-concealed hinges but I am
not sure if they will work with my specific set up here (plus they're
pretty expensive, $6.99/pair, and I'm on a pretty strict budget!)

Thanks ahead of time for all of your help!


This topic has 6 replies

MM

"Matthias Mühe"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

06/07/2004 3:40 PM

"Brian" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi,
>
> I am in the process of refacing my kitchen cabinets during which I am
> also replacing all of the cabinet hardware. I have face-frame
> cabinets. The old hinges are 1/2" overlay partial wrap self-closing
> hinges. I would have no problem re-using them except for the fact
> that I am replacing the pulls with a different finish. I am having a
> heck of a time finding this type of hinge in a brushed satin nickel
> finish (the same as my pulls). So my questions to you guys, the pros,
> are:
>
> 1) Anyone know of a place where I can find this type of hinge in the
> finish I am looking for?
>
> 2) I have read a lot about European-style hinges which are
> fully-concealed. I'd love to use those but they all seem to require
> drilling a mortise(?) (sorry, I'm not sure of the correct terminology)
> in the doors themselves so they can be installed properly.

Hi Brian,
if you are interested in the European style hinges, have a look at
www.hettich.com or www.haefele.com. They are the leading suppliers. You
don't need to cut mortises for the classical European hinges, it is just a
blind hole to be drilled with a forstner bit.
This can be done easily with any drill-press or even free hand.

Regards from old Europe

Matthias

tT

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

06/07/2004 4:37 PM

Brian wrote:>Hi,
>
>I am in the process of refacing my kitchen cabinets during which I am
>also replacing all of the cabinet hardware. I have face-frame
>cabinets. The old hinges are 1/2" overlay partial wrap self-closing
>hinges. I would have no problem re-using them except for the fact
>that I am replacing the pulls with a different finish. I am having a
>heck of a time finding this type of hinge in a brushed satin nickel
>finish (the same as my pulls). So my questions to you guys, the pros,
>are:
>
>1) Anyone know of a place where I can find this type of hinge in the
>finish I am looking for?
>
>2) I have read a lot about European-style hinges which are
>fully-concealed. I'd love to use those but they all seem to require
>drilling a mortise(?) (sorry, I'm not sure of the correct terminology)
>in the doors themselves so they can be installed properly.
>Unfortunately I do not have the tools nor the woodworking skills to do
>that on my own. Are there similar hinges that would not require this
>extra step? I've seen "non-mortise" fully-concealed hinges but I am
>not sure if they will work with my specific set up here (plus they're
>pretty expensive, $6.99/pair, and I'm on a pretty strict budget!)
>
>Thanks ahead of time for all of your help!
>
>
Checked Rockler, or Lee Valley? The fully concealed Euro-type hinge needs a
flat-bottomed hole in the door, usually, what, an inch and three-eighths by a
half-inch deep? There's $15-$20 there for the Forstner bit, and Rockler sells a
jig that allows you to use a hand-held drill motor to get reasonable results...
Tom
Work at your leisure!

sB

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

07/07/2004 9:25 AM

Thanks to everyone for the good advice! You've helped a lot!

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

06/07/2004 8:04 PM

Oups, make the Woodworkers Hardware NOT Supply


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > 2) I have read a lot about European-style hinges which are
> > fully-concealed. I'd love to use those but they all seem to require
> > drilling a mortise(?)
>
> Normally just a 1-3/8" hole drilled 1/8" in from the out side edge of the
> door and 1/2" deep. I use Blum hinges from Woodworkers Supply and pay
about
> $1.17 each in even quantities of 50.
> I almost exclusively use this type hinge now. The hole is best drilled
with
> a flat bottom Forstner bit.
>
>
>
>
>

nn

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

06/07/2004 12:18 PM

Check www.wwhardware.com for hinges and pulls. Might have something.

On 6 Jul 2004 06:28:11 -0700, [email protected] (Brian) wrote:

>I am in the process of refacing my kitchen cabinets during which I am
>also replacing all of the cabinet hardware. I have face-frame
>cabinets. The old hinges are 1/2" overlay partial wrap self-closing
>hinges. I would have no problem re-using them except for the fact
>that I am replacing the pulls with a different finish. I am having a
>heck of a time finding this type of hinge in a brushed satin nickel
>finish (the same as my pulls). So my questions to you guys, the pros,
>are:

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (Brian) on 06/07/2004 6:28 AM

06/07/2004 1:52 PM


"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> 2) I have read a lot about European-style hinges which are
> fully-concealed. I'd love to use those but they all seem to require
> drilling a mortise(?)

Normally just a 1-3/8" hole drilled 1/8" in from the out side edge of the
door and 1/2" deep. I use Blum hinges from Woodworkers Supply and pay about
$1.17 each in even quantities of 50.
I almost exclusively use this type hinge now. The hole is best drilled with
a flat bottom Forstner bit.





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