Be aware that getting those holes drilled perfectly is
a much bigger problem than you can imagine. The MEG is
done by a CNC machine(not a drill press) and if you make
the jig, it requires a great deal of precision to get
those holes the EXACT distance apart.
If they are not exact, when the piece of stock is turned
around and the jig is positioned at the center point,
the holes will not be exactly opposite of one another.
Don't ask how I know this......(proud owner of a MEG jig)
Drew wrote:
> John wrote...
>
>>Made by M.E.G. Products
>>
>> www.megproducts.com
>>
>>Pretty pricey
>>
>
> I agree, too pricey even for a commercial product with so little
> manufacturing, I will make my own out of aluminum and holddowns identical to
> their OEM parts.
>
> Forget the MDF solution though.
>
> Drew
>
>
I did mine in a mill .. clamped the plate above a sacrificial board & drilled away
.. .. .. holes MAY be off by .001" or so, but hey - for free vs, the REAL thing ..
.. .. I'll not complain.
Pat Barber wrote:
> Be aware that getting those holes drilled perfectly is
> a much bigger problem than you can imagine. The MEG is
> done by a CNC machine(not a drill press) and if you make
> the jig, it requires a great deal of precision to get
> those holes the EXACT distance apart.
>
> If they are not exact, when the piece of stock is turned
> around and the jig is positioned at the center point,
> the holes will not be exactly opposite of one another.
>
> Don't ask how I know this......(proud owner of a MEG jig)
>
> Drew wrote:
>
> > John wrote...
> >
> >>Made by M.E.G. Products
> >>
> >> www.megproducts.com
> >>
> >>Pretty pricey
> >>
> >
> > I agree, too pricey even for a commercial product with so little
> > manufacturing, I will make my own out of aluminum and holddowns identical to
> > their OEM parts.
> >
> > Forget the MDF solution though.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> >
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"Drew" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well thanks anyway.
>
> It truly is amazing that no matter how specific a question or request, you
> always get this type of response.
>
> Of course I could make one, but I want that system...so my request
remains.
>
> If someone has a direct link, please post the link for the described
system.
>
Maybe you could just build your own out of plywood.
Just kidding. This kind of post always results in those replies because a
lot of people (mostly new woodworkers) see things like that on Nahm's show
and think they need the system to drill holes. It's mostly people just
trying to save someone some $ and headaches. The one that gets me is Norm's
pocket hole machine.
Frank
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:47:02 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:04:37 GMT, "Drew" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm extremely disappointed that after whoring my website for some
>> years now, no one mentioned my Norm's Tools section of my website.
>>
>
>Sorry, but you will have to continue to do your own whoring.
Oh, well. It was worth a shot.
>If it makes you feel better, I did think of your site...
It does. Thanks.
>...but I was too lazy to look it up.
Geez, I tried to pick a name that wouldn't be easy to forget. Sorry it
didn't take.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
I've built my own using Lee Valley Tools' hole guided and a piece of
plywood. Cheap and efficient. Here's a link to how they work.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=32317&category=1,180,42311,42321&abspage=1&ccurrency=1&SID=
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Opted to build this jig using 13 ply Birch since I'll probably only need
it a few times.
Thanks
This Festool system seems more complex then what I saw, simple aluminum jig
and utilizes a guide bushing and plunge bit.
Drew
"BErney1014" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> >during a cabinet project.
> >
> >It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
>
> I tracked the saw system to Festool, dunno if all the rest was the same.
Neat
> stuff wasn't it?
Thanks all...this is the one I was after.
Thanks again.
Drew
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.megproducts.com/pro-bore32.html
>
> Drew wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> > during a cabinet project.
>
Drew wrote:
> Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> during a cabinet project.
>
> It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Drew
>
>
For spotting shelf support holes in cabinets, I used a piece of
pegboard. Marked on the board how to line it up for
any paticular situation. Then used a drill bit with a stop colar on it
to make the holes.
JAW
The shelf jig can be found at this website. Found it at NYW site. Looks like
their mighty proud of it too. I use a piece of scrap peg board.
http://megproducts.com/
--
Mike S.
[email protected]
Frank wrote...
>
> Maybe you could just build your own out of plywood.
>
> Just kidding. This kind of post always results in those replies because a
> lot of people (mostly new woodworkers) see things like that on Nahm's show
> and think they need the system to drill holes. It's mostly people just
> trying to save someone some $ and headaches. The one that gets me is
Norm's
> pocket hole machine.
>
> Frank
>
I agree, and it was no big deal really, the way to do it is...
No, I do not have a link, if cost is an issue it could be made though...
But, I have no problem investing in a reasonalbly priced commercialy made
jig system that will hold up to years of use and abuse, and personally I
hate MDF, yes it has it's place, but weight & durability are a sacrifice I
do not want to make.
"Norms pocket hole stuff"...now there you go...he has shown at least 2
commercial systems, I haven't caught him using the Kreg system, although he
hocks it on his shop...blatent commercialism, oh well, it pays for the
show...better than pay per view.
That huge wide belt sander, I could have one of those...if I kick out a wall
after a divorce precipitated by even thinking about owning one.
Have a great day,
Drew
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:04:37 GMT, "Drew" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm extremely
> disappointed that after whoring my website for some years now, on one
> mentioned my Norm's Tools section of my website.
>
Sorry, but you will have to continue to do your own whoring. If it makes
you feel better, I did think of your site but I was too lazy to look it up.
Frank
Just make one from 1/2 MDF - it will work fine.
"Drew" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> during a cabinet project.
>
> It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Drew
>
>
Well thanks anyway.
It truly is amazing that no matter how specific a question or request, you
always get this type of response.
Of course I could make one, but I want that system...so my request remains.
If someone has a direct link, please post the link for the described system.
Drew
"Rob V" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just make one from 1/2 MDF - it will work fine.
>
> "Drew" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> > during a cabinet project.
> >
> > It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Drew
> >
> >
>
>
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:04:37 GMT, "Drew" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
>during a cabinet project.
>
>It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
Well, this won't directly answer your question either, although it
would have gotten you started in the right direction. I'm extremely
disappointed that after whoring my website for some years now, on one
mentioned my Norm's Tools section of my website. Anyway, look for it
on the link below and get all of your Norm's Tools questions answered.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
"Drew" writes:
> I agree, and it was no big deal really, the way to do it is...
>
> No, I do not have a link, if cost is an issue it could be made though...
>
> But, I have no problem investing in a reasonalbly priced commercialy made
> jig system that will hold up to years of use and abuse, and personally I
> hate MDF, yes it has it's place, but weight & durability are a sacrifice I
> do not want to make.
<snip>
IMHO, good commercial equipment pays for itself if it gets used on a regular
basis.
Also have no use for MDF, especially in a boat yard.
Opted to build this jig using 13 ply Birch since I'll probably only need it
a few times.
NYW needs to update their layout technique they suggest on the drawing since
it introduces unnecessary errors.
Have fun.
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:04:37 +0000, Drew wrote:
> Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
> during a cabinet project.
>
> It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Drew
I have a drilling jig from Hettich, a german hardware company. You can
view it on their website www.hettich.com
They offer several jigs and tools for the 32mm cabinet system. I bought
mine through www.cshardware.com, a Wisconsin company specializing in
hardware for cabinets. It may be worth calling them to see if you can buy
from them.
I note, too, that Lee Valley has a veritas jig for 32mm holes.
Here's a good spot to start your search:
http://web2.hettich.com/hbh/startupHandler?Startup=Start&UserID=gast&Productgroup=1262&DefaultLanguage=44
Click on the link for drilling template. Once armed with the correct
info, it's a matter of poking around til you find it.
Again, I bought mine from www.cshardware.com
Here's the link for Lee Valley:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=42200&category=1,180,42311&ccurrency=2&SID=
Whichever one you select, it is important to use the correct size drill
bit and to take your time drilling. Going too fast is a sure way to snap
a bit. I know. I broke a bit at hole #7 the first time I used the
template.
Drew,
www.megproducts.com
I bought one from them a couple of years ago, but I am cheap and bought the
plywood model. The aluminum one looks real nice but I couldn't see where
another hundred or so could make that much difference.
Be sure to have them send you their bushing as well.
Jay Sweeney in NH (freezing to death!)
The infromation is on the New Yankee Workshp website
Made by M.E.G. Products
www.megproducts.com
Pretty pricey
John
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:04:37 GMT, "Drew" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Does anyone have a link for the hole drilling system used by Norm on NYW
>during a cabinet project.
>
>It was an aluminium jig that uses plunge router and guide bushing.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Drew
>
I know that it is not exactly what you want but I have used the Woodhaven
jig that is made out of phenolic. It is not wood so it will not absorb
water and it is much cheaper than the megaproducts unit (which is very
nice). I have drilled thousands of holes with mine. Check out:
http://www.woodhaven.com/singleproduct/Main/////781/?fromsearch=1
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"Mike S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The shelf jig can be found at this website. Found it at NYW site. Looks
like
> their mighty proud of it too. I use a piece of scrap peg board.
> http://megproducts.com/
>
> --
> Mike S.
> [email protected]
>
>
Pat Barber wrote:
> Be aware that getting those holes drilled perfectly is
> a much bigger problem than you can imagine.
<snip>
It's very straight forward if you do it right.
You need a drill jig that insures center to center spacing of adjacent
holes.
See Fred Bingham's book, "Practical Yacht Joinery" for details.
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures