Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up an of
old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both of
them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish. Is
this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article about
this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
Silvan wrote:
> Michael Daly wrote:
> > I may offend the true affectionado with the result, but it's a
> > nice looking workshop piece to me.
> Yeah, screw'em anyway. Tools are for *using*.
Seems like a short-sighted view to me. I know that Rik uses his planes,
I suspect that most of us do. We're talking about planes that go back
100 years or so and have been protected by their finish for A LONG
time. I doubt that black paint will last a century, whereas I don't see
any reason that the planes shouldn't go another century without any
problems if cared for properly. Many of my tools are Civil War or
before, the Stanleys being the youngsters. I certainly hope to pass
them on in as good condition, if not better, as I got them. It isn't a
question of appearance so much as one of quality.
Dave in Fairfax
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Thank you Larry. I forgot to ad the link. My bad. :-)
Thanks again.
rik
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"Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I had to find the link to "Liberty on the Hudson" so here it is for the
rest
> of you. Everyone send me a quarter for my effort...
> http://www.libertyonthehudson.com/pontypool.htm
>
> --
> Larry C in Auburn, WA
>
> "RikC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mike,
> >
> > I like you have been restoring old tools as a hobby, specifically
planes.
> >
> > I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by the
> > name of Liberty on the Hudson. It costs 26 bucks a quart. A little goes
a
> > very long way. You will also need turpentine as you will need to thin
out
> > the asphaltum to a more workable viscosity.
> >
> > I just finished a #8 and it looks great.
> >
> > If you need to talk about it some more just email me.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > rik
> >
> > --
> >
> > Padded room with a view
> > RWC3
> > "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> > > Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up
> an
> > of
> > > old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both
> of
> > > them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish.
> Is
> > > this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article
> about
> > > this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Different strokes for different folks!!!!!!!!!
"Slowhand" <I'm@work> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> > Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up
an
> of
> > old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both
of
> > them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish.
Is
> > this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article
about
> > this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
>
> As a fellow collector myself, I am saddened you want to re-japan a
> collector. As I drift from place to place in search of completing my
> collections, a tear comes to my eye when I see a "restored" collectable.
> Cleaning up a collector is one thing but re-japanning??? argh.
> SH
> >
> >
>
>
I had to find the link to "Liberty on the Hudson" so here it is for the rest
of you. Everyone send me a quarter for my effort...
http://www.libertyonthehudson.com/pontypool.htm
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Larry C in Auburn, WA
"RikC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mike,
>
> I like you have been restoring old tools as a hobby, specifically planes.
>
> I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by the
> name of Liberty on the Hudson. It costs 26 bucks a quart. A little goes a
> very long way. You will also need turpentine as you will need to thin out
> the asphaltum to a more workable viscosity.
>
> I just finished a #8 and it looks great.
>
> If you need to talk about it some more just email me.
>
> HTH
>
> rik
>
> --
>
> Padded room with a view
> RWC3
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> > Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up
an
> of
> > old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both
of
> > them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish.
Is
> > this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article
about
> > this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
> >
> >
>
>
On 5-Nov-2003, [email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) wrote:
> I haven't done any japanning but have done some "Rustoleum"ing;
> Machinery Black with an artist brush if the plane is to be
> a user.
I used spray Tremclad (gloss black and gloss red) on the Millers
Falls #14 I just finished. Looks fine as a user, but it will
never be a "genuine" antique.
Took several layers of crud (paint, varnish etc) off the tote
and knob and sanded the result. Tung oil to finish. I've never
seen so much oil soak into any wood - not sure what it is.
The result, a mix of dark grain (well soaked-in paint etc) and
clean wood has a nice visual texture and a "used" look.
I may offend the true affectionado with the result, but it's a
nice looking workshop piece to me.
Mike
Mike,
I like you have been restoring old tools as a hobby, specifically planes.
I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by the
name of Liberty on the Hudson. It costs 26 bucks a quart. A little goes a
very long way. You will also need turpentine as you will need to thin out
the asphaltum to a more workable viscosity.
I just finished a #8 and it looks great.
If you need to talk about it some more just email me.
HTH
rik
--
Padded room with a view
RWC3
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up an
of
> old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both of
> them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish. Is
> this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article about
> this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
>
>
Andy,
The don't recommend stoving after application and I didn't. I just let it
air dry for about a week and it turns out real nice.
rik
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"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 01:33:02 GMT, "RikC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by the
> >name of Liberty on the Hudson.
>
> That's convenient ! I travel all the way to Pontypool to brew it up
> from the original recipe of asphaltum and oils.
>
> How do you use yours ? Do you stove it after application ?
>
> BTW - recipe is at
> http://paranoia-towers.com/alchemy/pontypool.htm
>
>
>
> --
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 01:33:02 GMT, "RikC" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by the
>name of Liberty on the Hudson.
That's convenient ! I travel all the way to Pontypool to brew it up
from the original recipe of asphaltum and oils.
How do you use yours ? Do you stove it after application ?
BTW - recipe is at
http://paranoia-towers.com/alchemy/pontypool.htm
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
Thanks rik:
Thanks for the info, I'll get a quart of the stuff right away.
What got me started on the planes was that I found two of my dad's old
Stanley's, a 4 and a 7 that badly needed restoration and we were off and
running, now I have 5 waiting for further processing. I have a couple of
questions:
1. Should I remove all of the old Japanning first or can you apply over the
old finish?
2. I have read that you can use paint remover to get the old finish off, is
this ok?
3. What solvent do you use to clean the metal before application?
4. Do you have any pics of your completed work?
Thanks,
Mike
"RikC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thank you Larry. I forgot to ad the link. My bad. :-)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> rik
>
> --
>
> Padded room with a view
> RWC3
> "Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:_s0qb.81515$9E1.407145@attbi_s52...
> > I had to find the link to "Liberty on the Hudson" so here it is for the
> rest
> > of you. Everyone send me a quarter for my effort...
> > http://www.libertyonthehudson.com/pontypool.htm
> >
> > --
> > Larry C in Auburn, WA
> >
> > "RikC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I like you have been restoring old tools as a hobby, specifically
> planes.
> > >
> > > I have been using the original Pontypool Asphaltum from a company by
the
> > > name of Liberty on the Hudson. It costs 26 bucks a quart. A little
goes
> a
> > > very long way. You will also need turpentine as you will need to thin
> out
> > > the asphaltum to a more workable viscosity.
> > >
> > > I just finished a #8 and it looks great.
> > >
> > > If you need to talk about it some more just email me.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > rik
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Padded room with a view
> > > RWC3
> > > "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> > > > Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked
up
> > an
> > > of
> > > > old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of
both
> > of
> > > > them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original
finish.
> > Is
> > > > this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article
> > about
> > > > this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Michael Daly wrote:
> I may offend the true affectionado with the result, but it's a
> nice looking workshop piece to me.
Yeah, screw'em anyway. Tools are for *using*.
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In article <AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01>, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up an of
>old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both of
>them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish. Is
>this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article about
>this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
>
>
I haven't done any japanning but have done some "Rustoleum"ing;
Machinery Black with an artist brush if the plane is to be
a user.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:AaYpb.107446$HS4.905156@attbi_s01...
> Has anyone done Japaning during old tool restoration? I just picked up an
of
> old Stanley #3 and a #5 plane and have gotten all the rust off of both of
> them through electrolysis and am ready to restore the original finish. Is
> this something one can do in their shop? I've only seen one article about
> this subject and it doesn't seem overly complicated.
As a fellow collector myself, I am saddened you want to re-japan a
collector. As I drift from place to place in search of completing my
collections, a tear comes to my eye when I see a "restored" collectable.
Cleaning up a collector is one thing but re-japanning??? argh.
SH
>
>