I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in advertising
or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too stupid to
understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
yourself.
But in that vein... When are you going to stop selling your "cigar box
lock", and your "Twist (Cigar) Pen Hardware", vis:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=46517&cat=3,41419,41455
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=53435&cat=1,250,43243,53758,
53435
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=62162&cat=1,250,43243,53758
In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
> > Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
> >
> > But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
> > advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
> > stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
> >
> > This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
> > yourself.
> >
> > But in that vein... When are you going to stop selling your "cigar
> > box lock", and your "Twist (Cigar) Pen Hardware", vis:
> >
>
> Welcome to the world of Politically Correct crap Dave.
I had thought better of Robin Lee...
--
Woodworking and more at <http://www.woodenwabbits.com>
In article <[email protected]>, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/05/12 9:12 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Balderstone wrote:
> >>> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
> >>> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
> >>>
> >>> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
> >>> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
> >>> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
> >>>
> >>> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
> >>> yourself.
> >>>
> >>> But in that vein... When are you going to stop selling your "cigar
> >>> box lock", and your "Twist (Cigar) Pen Hardware", vis:
> >>>
> >>
> >> Welcome to the world of Politically Correct crap Dave.
> >
> > I had thought better of Robin Lee...
> >
> Me too, but it won't stop me from shopping there. :-)
SWMBO suggests I should pass out cigars at the beginning of the
seminar. <chuckle>
In article <[email protected]>, Bill
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Call it a "Seegar" box guitar and, if anyone inquires, tell them the
> truth or explain that it is "well-known" that the instrument was named
> after Mr. Smokey Seegar. :)
>
> The description of the seminar ought to resolve any mystery--you could
> adequately describe Mr. Seegar's work. I suspect the group would enjoy
> assisting you with this!
I suspect you're right...
In article <[email protected]>, Dave
<[email protected]> wrote:
> If I
> were him, I wouldn't try to discuss it with you in an open forum
> either.
Robin used to be a regular here... And had no problem jumping in to any
discussion.
--
Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
- Mark Twain.
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:08:28 -0600, Dave Balderstone
>Robin used to be a regular here... And had no problem jumping in to any
>discussion.
I do see the occasional comment from him in other forums, so I suspect
he might still be reading what goes on here. But, considering the
amount of OT dialogue, I could well be mistaken.
But still, why not email him privately? You've jumped on him without
his involvement. Robin has always been a reasonable guy as far as I've
seen. At the very least he should be given the opportunity to respond
to you in a cordial manner.
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:47:02 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 9/6/2012 7:17 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
>>> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
>>>
>>> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
>>> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
>>> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
>
>Call it a "Seegar" box guitar and, if anyone inquires, tell them the
>truth or explain that it is "well-known" that the instrument was named
>after Mr. Smokey Seegar. :)
Monica's box.
>The description of the seminar ought to resolve any mystery--you could
>adequately describe Mr. Seegar's work. I suspect the group would enjoy
>assisting you with this!
>
>
>>>
>>> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
>>> yourself.
>>>
>>
>> Well, hell, call it something else:
>> 1. The non-abortion woodworking project,
>> 2. Make a banjo like the coloreds did,
>> 3. Wetback violin
>> 4. What women are not allowed to play or male-only seminar
>> 5. "... and you can hide your stash inside!"
>> and so on.
>>
>>
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
>
> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
>
> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
> yourself.
>
> But in that vein... When are you going to stop selling your "cigar
> box lock", and your "Twist (Cigar) Pen Hardware", vis:
>
Welcome to the world of Politically Correct crap Dave.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 9/05/12 9:12 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Mike Marlow
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>>> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
>>> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
>>>
>>> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
>>> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
>>> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
>>>
>>> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
>>> yourself.
>>>
>>> But in that vein... When are you going to stop selling your "cigar
>>> box lock", and your "Twist (Cigar) Pen Hardware", vis:
>>>
>>
>> Welcome to the world of Politically Correct crap Dave.
>
> I had thought better of Robin Lee...
>
Me too, but it won't stop me from shopping there. :-)
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 9/6/2012 7:17 AM, HeyBub wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote:
>> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
>> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
>>
>> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
>> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
>> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
Call it a "Seegar" box guitar and, if anyone inquires, tell them the
truth or explain that it is "well-known" that the instrument was named
after Mr. Smokey Seegar. :)
The description of the seminar ought to resolve any mystery--you could
adequately describe Mr. Seegar's work. I suspect the group would enjoy
assisting you with this!
>>
>> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
>> yourself.
>>
>
> Well, hell, call it something else:
> 1. The non-abortion woodworking project,
> 2. Make a banjo like the coloreds did,
> 3. Wetback violin
> 4. What women are not allowed to play or male-only seminar
> 5. "... and you can hide your stash inside!"
> and so on.
>
>
On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:12:35 -0600, Dave Balderstone
>> Welcome to the world of Politically Correct crap Dave.
>
>I had thought better of Robin Lee...
Email him directly and make an attempt to discuss it with him. If I
were him, I wouldn't try to discuss it with you in an open forum
either.
Did you actually try to talk to him directly? If not, maybe the
response you got was from a manager or something.
And, just because he's the final word when it come to operating Lee
Valley Tools, doesn't mean he and LV are immune to all that "sensitive
political crap" that goes on these days. He has a business to run,
employees to keep working and so much more on his plate than you or I
will ever know.
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> I've been asked to submit a proposal for a seminar on building Cigar
> Box Guitars at our local Lee Valley store.
>
> But apparently we're not allowed to use the word "cigar" in
> advertising or describing the session. Are Lee Valley's customers too
> stupid to understand that the store doesn't sell tobacco products?
>
> This is politically correct insanity! Robin, you should be ashamed of
> yourself.
>
Well, hell, call it something else:
1. The non-abortion woodworking project,
2. Make a banjo like the coloreds did,
3. Wetback violin
4. What women are not allowed to play or male-only seminar
5. "... and you can hide your stash inside!"
and so on.