JP

Jay Pique

16/02/2004 8:15 PM

Sander idea....possibly dangerous

Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.

Who knows.

JP


This topic has 8 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

17/02/2004 7:11 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Charles
Erskine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Delta had a stationary random orbit sander on the market for a short
> while. Imagine a hand-held ROS fixed upside down to a table. I tried
> one and hated it. Basically, the board just shook rather than being
> sanded. Enough people agreed with me that they took it off the
> market.

Is that the 9" benchtop? I picked one up at the borg on clearance a
whie back and like it fine. Especially with the fence, it's a nice
little unit for smaller pieces.

djb

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JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

18/02/2004 7:41 AM

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:37:53 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Not a new idea. They have been lapping rocks this way for a long time.

No millions for me then... Thanks though - I'll check out the rock
lappers for tips.

I'm sort of excited about this. Right now I'm thinking of getting
some 15mil nitrile gloves for extra grip/abrasion protection, or
seeing about a pneumatic suction gripper thingy. It could be sorta
like ScarySharp - just have your various grits lined up next to each
other, take a few seconds on each and be on your way.

JP
******************
Lusting for a Performax.

>"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
>> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
>> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
>> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
>> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
>> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
>> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
>> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
>> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
>> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
>> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
>> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>>
>> Who knows.
>>
>> JP
>

cC

[email protected] (Charles Erskine)

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

17/02/2004 4:56 PM

Delta had a stationary random orbit sander on the market for a short
while. Imagine a hand-held ROS fixed upside down to a table. I tried
one and hated it. Basically, the board just shook rather than being
sanded. Enough people agreed with me that they took it off the
market.

Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>
> Who knows.
>
> JP

BH

"Bestest Handsander"

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

16/02/2004 10:11 PM

If you do decide to give it a try, be sure the video camera is running. You
just might make $10K!

"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>
> Who knows.
>
> JP

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

17/02/2004 9:42 AM

I had been thinking about a device such as this to trim cat claws. About
four feet square. Turn it on, drop the cat onto it. The cat will be rather
apprehensive due to the noise so it will land with claws extended. Between
the action of the sander and the cat's attempts to exit quickly, the claws
should be trimmed nicely. :)

"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:37:53 -0800, "CW" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Not a new idea. They have been lapping rocks this way for a long time.
>
> No millions for me then... Thanks though - I'll check out the rock
> lappers for tips.
>
> I'm sort of excited about this. Right now I'm thinking of getting
> some 15mil nitrile gloves for extra grip/abrasion protection, or
> seeing about a pneumatic suction gripper thingy. It could be sorta
> like ScarySharp - just have your various grits lined up next to each
> other, take a few seconds on each and be on your way.
>
> JP
> ******************
> Lusting for a Performax.
>
> >"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
> >> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
> >> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
> >> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
> >> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
> >> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
> >> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
> >> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
> >> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
> >> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
> >> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
> >> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
> >>
> >> Who knows.
> >>
> >> JP
> >
>

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

17/02/2004 1:46 AM

Just don't let the better half sit on it while your sanding <G>

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"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>
> Who knows.
>
> JP

Cc

"CW"

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

16/02/2004 10:37 PM

Not a new idea. They have been lapping rocks this way for a long time.

"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>
> Who knows.
>
> JP

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Jay Pique on 16/02/2004 8:15 PM

17/02/2004 8:09 PM

On 17 Feb 2004 16:56:36 -0800, [email protected] (Charles
Erskine) wrote:

>Delta had a stationary random orbit sander on the market for a short
>while. Imagine a hand-held ROS fixed upside down to a table. I tried
>one and hated it. Basically, the board just shook rather than being
>sanded. Enough people agreed with me that they took it off the
>market.

Thanks for the reply Charles - you answered one question and prompted
a few others. Sounds like you'd need to have a pretty solid grip on
the wood for sure. I've got a few ideas on how to fix that, but now
we're getting a bit more "complex".... Heck, a few more
complexities and I'll have built myself a dual-drum Performax!

JP

>Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Did a bunch of sanding today and got to thinking of potentially better
>> ways to get a smooth surface. A dual drum sander would be very nice,
>> but it's rather pricey. I was thinking that a large vibrating flat
>> surface might do the trick. What if you bought one of those Grizzly
>> granite surface plates, stuck some rubber feet on it, and then bolted
>> a concrete vibrator (or two or three) to the bottom. Then you put
>> some PSA 120 grit on top, crank up the power and sand away. Anybody
>> out there tried this? Anyone seen this type of device already out
>> there? I like the idea of the vibrating action versus the linear
>> marks put out by a spinning drum. Am I likely to get the same result
>> with an oscillating belt sander? What would be really cool is to set
>> up your material feeder over the top of the surface plate.
>>
>> Who knows.
>>
>> JP


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