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2400. Magdeburg Hemisphere to demonstrate vacuum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdeburg_hemispheres
Karl
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:21:04 -0500, Rob H. wrote:
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I presume 2395 is not a crimper, but that's the only guess I could make
2400: Magdeburg sphere?
I enjoy these brainteasers, even though I can only rarely figure out
what the things are.
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On Nov 10, 4:21=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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OK, I'm diving in-
2395 - I'm going to say you entrap some material between the gears and
pull it through to apply a crimp or ruffle.
2397 - for temporary lifting for leveling I'd say. Pianos? Doors?
2398 - 3 counter-weighted pivoting arms, but what happens when you
press down on the big paddle? I think the fact the pivot for the
paddle is covered in something soft(ish) means the arms would clunk
against them. I'm going with some kind of a ganged balance.
2399 - Stand for bottomless champagne flutes
Dave
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>> 2395 looks like knurling wheels used in the (glass) mould making
>> industry on CNC machines. Why a pair are set so closely together is
>> anyone's guess. Maybe to hand knurl thin plate for a decorative edge?
>>
>
> I think it is for "necking" metal ducting/stove-pipe sheets, prior to
> rolling.
>
> LLoyd
Yea, that sounds reasonable. I was thinking about something like a metal
cookie plate that would be set out during holidays but I like your idea
better.
Jihn
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> 2395 looks like knurling wheels used in the (glass) mould making
> industry on CNC machines. Why a pair are set so closely together is
> anyone's guess. Maybe to hand knurl thin plate for a decorative edge?
>
I think it is for "necking" metal ducting/stove-pipe sheets, prior to
rolling.
LLoyd
2396. A lather's hatchet.
2397. From your hint - lift railroad car furniture out of socket
receivers and tweak them into position when they're put back.
Probably used when the floor was refinished/cleaned.
2398. Something to do with bookbinding.
2399. A drink holder in a billiard room.
2400. Sprays insecticide or other liquid/powder.
R
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>> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
>> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
>> Art
>
>
> Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a hint, it was
> used on trains.
>
Looks small to be an inching bar.
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On 11/10/2011 5:13 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Nov 9, 11:21 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help with three of the items this week:
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2400. Magdeburg Hemisphere to demonstrate vacuum.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdeburg_hemispheres
> Karl
2396 a shingler's hammer
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2397 This is interesting. It is obviously a lever, but...
It is very robustly built, but only has a 2:1 mechanical advantage.
There is no way a person, even jumping on the long end, could apply
enough force to justify the robustness.
I'll guess this is a tool used by a rigger, or possibly a stone
worker/setter. Probably used in confined spaces. Another lever or jack
may be used to apply force to the long end.
On 11/10/2011 12:40 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2397 This is interesting. It is obviously a lever, but...
> It is very robustly built, but only has a 2:1 mechanical advantage.
> There is no way a person, even jumping on the long end, could apply
> enough force to justify the robustness.
> I'll guess this is a tool used by a rigger, or possibly a stone
> worker/setter. Probably used in confined spaces. Another lever or jack
> may be used to apply force to the long end.
Handmade for purpose, it would appear. It's not been abused enough for
stone work unless it was only used one time in its life. I don't think
the size looks at all out of place for a handmade piece--but a 200-lb
guy's foot on the back end would put a pretty decent lift on the other...
The thickness of the working end means it had to have plenty of
clearance under whatever was being lifted. The thickness of the fulcrum
and the flat end means it wouldn't have worked for doors although that
was my first thinking, too, unless there was a heckuva gap under one.
A built-for-specific-job tool methinks, but I've no clue precisely what...
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2397: How about a chock? The 16" handle means the cart guy doesn't have
to stoop as far to jam the point under the wheel, and the small part has
a "sole" of a material to keep it from sliding on a particular surface.
On 11/10/11 1:19 PM, Steve W. wrote:
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> 2399 - Looks like an umbrella stand.
>
You've inspired me! The four inner holes in the lower plate look to be
an inch or less in diameter. I think it was for up to a dozen walking
sticks: eight below and four above.
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> Rob
2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
Art
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>> Rob
>
> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
> Art
Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a hint, it was
used on trains.
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> 2397 This is interesting. It is obviously a
> lever, but...
> It is very robustly built, but only has a 2:1
> mechanical advantage. There is no way a person,
> even jumping on the long end, could apply enough
> force to justify the robustness.
> I'll guess this is a tool used by a rigger, or
> possibly a stone worker/setter. Probably used
> in confined spaces. Another lever or jack may
> be used to apply force to the long end.
It could be a tool to move ore cars in a mine.
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>>>
>>> Rob
>
>> 2399 - Looks like an umbrella stand.
>>
> You've inspired me! The four inner holes in the lower plate look to be an
> inch or less in diameter. I think it was for up to a dozen walking
> sticks: eight below and four above.
I've searched for both umbrella holders and cane holders but had no luck for
either, most umbrella stands have a some type of basin for catching water
drops, and most holders for both items are usually lower to the floor.
Maybe it is for canes but I sure couldn't find another one like it.
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
>>> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
>>> Art
>>
>>
>> Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a hint, it was
>> used on trains.
>
> Looks small to be an inching bar.
>
> --
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Probably should have said it was used inside of a train.
On 11/10/11 5:46 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>>> Rob H. wrote:
>>>> I need some help with three of the items this week:
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>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>
>>> 2399 - Looks like an umbrella stand.
>>>
>> You've inspired me! The four inner holes in the lower plate look to be
>> an inch or less in diameter. I think it was for up to a dozen walking
>> sticks: eight below and four above.
>
>
> I've searched for both umbrella holders and cane holders but had no luck
> for either, most umbrella stands have a some type of basin for catching
> water drops, and most holders for both items are usually lower to the
> floor. Maybe it is for canes but I sure couldn't find another one like it.
Yes, I don't see why a cane holder would be portable. I wonder if it's
for an activity where one would want to choose among a dozen tools with
stick handles, all within arm's reach.
On 11/10/2011 4:46 PM, Rob H. wrote:
...
> I've searched for both umbrella holders and cane holders but had no luck
> for either, most umbrella stands have a some type of basin for catching
> water drops, and most holders for both items are usually lower to the
> floor. Maybe it is for canes but I sure couldn't find another one like it.
My guess would be built for holding vases for decorative purposes or
similar rather than storing things...just a guess.
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On 11/10/11 7:06 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
>>>> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
>>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a hint, it
>>> was used on trains.
>>
>> Looks small to be an inching bar.
>>
>> --
>> Steve W.
>
>
> Probably should have said it was used inside of a train.
Porters used different kinds of carts. If a crate or trunk was hard to
lift because of weight or the lack of handles, perhaps such a lever
could raise it enough to get it on or off a cart.
>> Handmade for purpose, it would appear. It's not been abused enough for
>> stone work unless it was only used one time in its life. I don't think
>> the size looks at all out of place for a handmade piece--but a 200-lb
>> guy's foot on the back end would put a pretty decent lift on the other...
>>
>> The thickness of the working end means it had to have plenty of
>> clearance under whatever was being lifted. The thickness of the fulcrum
>> and the flat end means it wouldn't have worked for doors although that
>> was my first thinking, too, unless there was a heckuva gap under one.
>
> Perhaps for uncoupling cars from the train (using US style
> couplings)? I would not call this "inside" a train, however, so I may
> be wrong.
>
> Is the material wood or steel? it is kind of hard to tell.
It's made of wood but has a metal plate at the end.
2395, looks like something you'd run along edge of paper or
thin metal, to provide a corrugated edge.
2396 my first thought is roofer's hatchet.
2397 piano lifter. It's used to lift upright piano a bit, so
you can roll it over a threshhold.
2398 totally no clue
2399 umbrella stand?
2400, the one on the left is an egg steamer. Goes over an
egg on the grill. The one on the right is egg dehydrator.
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Seat back flipper?
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>>
> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a
> heavy object
> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But
> move what??
> Art
Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a
hint, it was
used on trains.
On 11/11/11 5:26 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> Tough set this week, still not sure about the three unidentified items,
> the rest of the answers have been posted here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-414.html#answers
2399: How about a multicolor knitting stand?
For knitting with one color, one would presumably pull the yarn from a
ball in the bowl of one of these stands, rather than keep the ball in
one's lap.
http://www.art-conservation.org/templates/conservation_images/stand.jpg
http://www.nikisawyer.com/sheep/images/victorian_knitting_stand.jpg
The mystery stand could be a great advantage for someone knitting a
garment with up to a dozen colors. I think it used yarn cones similar
to these.
http://www.camillavalleyfarm.com/pics/fibre/cones2.jpg
You wind your yarn on the part of the cone that's bigger than the
diameter of the holes in the mystery stand. You invert a wound cone and
stick it in a hole, then bring the free end of the yarn over the top
(big end) and down through the little end. Yarns from the cones in the
top plate would extend through the little holes in the bottom plate so
they could be tugged without hitting the cones in the bottom plate.
When you want to knit, you get your stand from the corner and put it by
your knitting chair. You have up to twelve yarns hanging below the
bottom plate. You pull the one you want first. No tangling, and you
can easily spot the color you want.
On 11/11/11 8:21 PM, J Burns wrote:
> On 11/11/11 5:26 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Tough set this week, still not sure about the three unidentified items,
>> the rest of the answers have been posted here:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-414.html#answers
>
> 2399: How about a multicolor knitting stand?
>
> For knitting with one color, one would presumably pull the yarn from a
> ball in the bowl of one of these stands, rather than keep the ball in
> one's lap.
>
> http://www.art-conservation.org/templates/conservation_images/stand.jpg
> http://www.nikisawyer.com/sheep/images/victorian_knitting_stand.jpg
>
> The mystery stand could be a great advantage for someone knitting a
> garment with up to a dozen colors. I think it used yarn cones similar to
> these.
>
> http://www.camillavalleyfarm.com/pics/fibre/cones2.jpg
>
> You wind your yarn on the part of the cone that's bigger than the
> diameter of the holes in the mystery stand. You invert a wound cone and
> stick it in a hole, then bring the free end of the yarn over the top
> (big end) and down through the little end. Yarns from the cones in the
> top plate would extend through the little holes in the bottom plate so
> they could be tugged without hitting the cones in the bottom plate.
>
> When you want to knit, you get your stand from the corner and put it by
> your knitting chair. You have up to twelve yarns hanging below the
> bottom plate. You pull the one you want first. No tangling, and you can
> easily spot the color you want.
I checked with a relative who has a knitting machine. She says a stand
with a dozen cones could be useful in a cottage industry knitting Fair
Isle sweaters. They became fashionable after the Prince of Wales began
wearing them in 1921. You knit with two colors at a time but change
frequently, choosing from a palette.
>> diameter of the holes in the mystery stand. You invert a wound cone and
>> stick it in a hole, then bring the free end of the yarn over the top
>> (big end) and down through the little end. Yarns from the cones in the
>> top plate would extend through the little holes in the bottom plate so
>> they could be tugged without hitting the cones in the bottom plate.
>>
>> When you want to knit, you get your stand from the corner and put it by
>> your knitting chair. You have up to twelve yarns hanging below the
>> bottom plate. You pull the one you want first. No tangling, and you can
>> easily spot the color you want.
>
> I checked with a relative who has a knitting machine. She says a stand
> with a dozen cones could be useful in a cottage industry knitting Fair
> Isle sweaters. They became fashionable after the Prince of Wales began
> wearing them in 1921. You knit with two colors at a time but change
> frequently, choosing from a palette.
I guess it's possible but I did a search on 'cone yarn holder' and they all
had spindles to hold it, didn't see a single one that held the cone in a
hole. If you can find any holders that work on this theory, let us know.
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Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Tough set this week, still not sure about the three unidentified items, the
>rest of the answers have been posted here:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-414.html#answers
2401: Explosion-proof socket wrench. You have to use explosion-proof
sockets, which by design are reversed from ordinary sockets to prevent
mixing them up.
(no? Sounds plausible, doesn't it, though :-) )
2402: Some sort of gambling table.
2403: An oddly shaped hammer
2404: Cheese cutter for Limburger and other cheeses you don't want to
get near.
2405: Novelty water pipe
2406: A rejected design for a tool to tap thicknet ethernet, back in
the dayes of olde.
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On 11/10/2011 4:21 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
>
> Rob
2395 looks like knurling wheels used in the (glass) mould making
industry on CNC machines. Why a pair are set so closely together is
anyone's guess. Maybe to hand knurl thin plate for a decorative edge?
John
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Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
2395) Looking at it, I believe it is to form a ripple on some
material (perhaps tin-plated steel) which is drawn between the
gears at their closest points. There is enough gap there for
thin materials to be pulled through.
Perhaps for making strips to solder to a backing plate to make
decorative cookie cutters.
2396) Hmm ... sort of looks like a tomahawk -- there are lots of
styles. Here is a decorative example (sorry about the long
URL).
<http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4934-413-014&Store_Code=CCTP&search=Tomahawk&offset=&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high=>
It would be interesting to know whether the hammerhead part is
drilled to use as a pipe, or is solid to be used as a hammer.
If drilled to use as a pipe, the handle would probably also be
drilled to carry the smoke to the user's mouth.
2397) A lever for lifting or moving something, with a built-in
fulcrum.
2398) It looks like a relative to a three-hole paper punch, with
fixtures to aid in aligning the paper -- except that I can't get
enough detail from the images to be sure what the punch and dies
look like, if they are even there.
2399) Perhaps for a church to hold a number of candles for the
participants to carry in after someone else lights them in the
stand?
2400) A pair of hemispheres to demonstrate the amazing force that
air pressure can produce, by evacuating the mated set of
hemispheres. It looks as though a second handle screws onto the
side with the valve after it is pumped down.
An early demonstration had a somewhat larger set which could not
be pulled apart by two teams of horses pulling on the two
hemispheres.
These are nice ones, made of bronze. The ones which I have seen
in the school physics lab were cast iron instead, but served the
same purpose quite well. Looks like these would handle perhaps
184 lbs of force before separating.
Now to post this and see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
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On 2011-11-10, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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> "Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Nov 9, 11:21 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help with three of the items this week:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 2397. I think it's primary purpose is to move/adjust a heavy object
>> sideways. The pivoting shoe indicates this to me. But move what??
>> Art
>
>
> Kind of hard to guess the purpose of this one so I'll give a hint, it was
> used on trains.
On trains, or on the rails on which they rode? I could see it
being used either to align the rails themselves, or the wooden ties on
which they rested.
Or -- on trains, perhaps it could be used as a chock to keep a
car from rolling -- especially depending on the coefficient of friction
between the fulcrum and the rail top.
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On 2011-11-10, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/10/2011 12:40 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> 2397 This is interesting. It is obviously a lever, but...
>> It is very robustly built, but only has a 2:1 mechanical advantage.
>> There is no way a person, even jumping on the long end, could apply
>> enough force to justify the robustness.
>> I'll guess this is a tool used by a rigger, or possibly a stone
>> worker/setter. Probably used in confined spaces. Another lever or jack
>> may be used to apply force to the long end.
>
> Handmade for purpose, it would appear. It's not been abused enough for
> stone work unless it was only used one time in its life. I don't think
> the size looks at all out of place for a handmade piece--but a 200-lb
> guy's foot on the back end would put a pretty decent lift on the other...
>
> The thickness of the working end means it had to have plenty of
> clearance under whatever was being lifted. The thickness of the fulcrum
> and the flat end means it wouldn't have worked for doors although that
> was my first thinking, too, unless there was a heckuva gap under one.
Perhaps for uncoupling cars from the train (using US style
couplings)? I would not call this "inside" a train, however, so I may
be wrong.
Is the material wood or steel? it is kind of hard to tell.
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In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> Rob
2396: Not sure of the intended purpose of this particular multi function
hammer/hatchet device... however an OT thought:
It's my personal observation that the more 'things' a device does, the
less 'things' it will do well.
Largely holds true for people too...
Erik