In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:29 -0500, Warren <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> >that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> >any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
>
>
> They are both good woods for furniture. White oak, unlike red oak,
> rot resistant and can be used outdoors. If you are wanting oak for an
> indoor project, pick the lower cost one unless one looks better than
> the other.
Thanks, that's the sort of answer I was looking for. They don't look
all that much different to me and red oak is cheaper, especially the
riff/quarter sawn.
>Subject: Red oad vs. white oak
>From: Warren [email protected]
>
>Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
>that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
>any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
>
White oak is basically light brown,
without a hint of red. White oak is
weather resistant, red is not - red
oak turns black pretty quickly when
exposed to moisture. White oak
is better looking, I think - when
quartered, the rays are more prominent.
Andy Dingley wrote:
> leaves. Red oaks have sharp points to the lobes, white oaks are
> rounded. Be careful though, as there are a great many minor oak
> species and it's easy to miss one of these.
Interesting. There's an enormous tree near here. The leaves have rounded
lobes, and they turn bright red in fall. It's about 80' tall with huge
laterals running parallel to the ground, up to maybe 14" in diameter.
Because of the brachiation and the lobes on the leaves, I have always
assumed it was a white oak.
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Warren wrote:
> Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
The cell structure of red oak is like being composed of a bunch of
hollow tubes. You can blow through a piece of red oak. Try this with
white oak and you'll pop your ear drums.
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Warren wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>, Phisherman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:29 -0500, Warren <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> > >that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> > >any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
> >
> >
> > They are both good woods for furniture. White oak, unlike red oak,
> > rot resistant and can be used outdoors. If you are wanting oak for an
> > indoor project, pick the lower cost one unless one looks better than
> > the other.
>
> Thanks, that's the sort of answer I was looking for. They don't look
> all that much different to me and red oak is cheaper, especially the
> riff/quarter sawn.
Before committing to it for any major project (that is, one that is
going to be quite a bit of time, effort or that you really want to come
out nice) I'd take a couple sample boards and finish them as you
propose. Unless they're different subspecies or unusual samples from
what I've seen, their appearance when finished may be markedly
different.
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
All the others are true, but the biggest difference in appearance is the
relative size of the rays in white oaks. Much larger overall. Check the
split and white'll show a lot more bright ray.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:17:02 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>
>
> > On the cat piss, it was in balmy Montreal, and not just any old tabby.
> > See:
>
> LOL
I didn't know they sold India Beer in YT, but anyone who's had it knows
about cat piss....
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:08:14 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> While red oak makes it taste like cat piss.
So Luigi, can you describe that taste? LOL
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:29 -0500, Warren <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
>Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
>that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
>any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
They are both good woods for furniture. White oak, unlike red oak,
rot resistant and can be used outdoors. If you are wanting oak for an
indoor project, pick the lower cost one unless one looks better than
the other.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> One way to tell red oak from white it to taste the acorns. White is
>> usually edible raw, while red must be boiled to remove the tanin.
>
>
> So what do you do with a Live Oak acorn?
When I was in Yosemite I read that live oak acorns were the indians' staple
food.
Anyhow, I "think" they are okay to eat raw; but since we don't have them in
the frigid Northeast I have never tried them.
Even if not edible, they are not poisonous; they will just be too bitter to
eat.
When boiled to remove the tanin, black oak acorns are too tasteless to eat,
though they are nutritious.
In article <[email protected]>, DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
>
>(2) Smell it. White oak smells like swamp gas to me.
Odd... to me, white oak smells like toast and vanilla.
And red oak smells like cat piss.
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On 17 Jan 2005 10:39:06 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:
>Doug Miller responds:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
>>> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
>>>
>>>(2) Smell it. White oak smells like swamp gas to me.
>>
>>Odd... to me, white oak smells like toast and vanilla.
>>
>>And red oak smells like cat piss.
>
>I don't often agree with Doug, but that sure seems true of *some* of the red
>oak I get. Nasty stink.
>
Actually, Doug's description is kind -- I think red oak smells much worse
than that -- more like the product of peristalsis.
>Charlie Self
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>that which is expected." George W. Bush
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Doug Miller responds:
>In article <[email protected]>, DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
>> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
>>
>>(2) Smell it. White oak smells like swamp gas to me.
>
>Odd... to me, white oak smells like toast and vanilla.
>
>And red oak smells like cat piss.
I don't often agree with Doug, but that sure seems true of *some* of the red
oak I get. Nasty stink.
Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush
In article <[email protected]>, "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:08:14 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> And white oak gives those flavors to wine or whiskey.
>
>While red oak makes it taste like cat piss. You can't make barrels out of
>red oak
Sure you can. You just can't hold liquids in them. No reason you can't make a
nail keg out of red oak. :-)
>but some people use oak chips.
But not *red* oak chips. :-b
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"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> One way to tell red oak from white it to taste the acorns. White is
> usually edible raw, while red must be boiled to remove the tanin.
So what do you do with a Live Oak acorn?
On Wednesday 19 Jan 2005 12:49 am, Paul Kierstead scribbled:
> George wrote:
>> I didn't know they sold India Beer in YT, but anyone who's had it
>> knows about cat piss....
>
> Hey! I was practically brought up on that and Pony Piss! Well, ok, it
> is pretty vile...
Having lived in Newfoundland and New Brunswick (among other places), and
having drunk lots of India Beer on George Street, I have to say that
nothing outside of American beer was as vile as Moosehead, brewed from
the effluent of the Irving paper plant, just upstream of the brewery in
Saint John. Don't remember drinking Black Horse. Of course, pretty
soon, it'll all taste like Coors.
Anyway, despite the large number of Newfs in the Yukon, no Newfoundland
beers are available here. But we can get Keith's (from Scova Notia),
which I used to drink in New Brunswick.
Now I drink award-winning Yukon beer (http://www.yukonbeer.com) which is
great stuff. You should get your liquor board/beer store to bring it
in. Really. (Disclaimer: I have no interest in that beer other than
being a satisfied customer and shareholder).
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"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:29 -0500, Warren <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
>>that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
>>any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
Red oak is easier to work after steam bending. If the wood is seasoned, red
oak steam bends better than white as well.
"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:17:02 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
> On the cat piss, it was in balmy Montreal, and not just any old tabby.
> See:
LOL
> Because of the open vessels, you can't make waterproof boats or
> barrels with red oak. Red oak is also a "coarser" looking timber and
> not generally used for cabinetry.
Geez, I hope this is a troll!
http://www.woodmagazine.com/wood/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/wood/story/data/136.xml
One way to tell red oak from white it to taste the acorns. White is usually
edible raw, while red must be boiled to remove the tanin.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:47 +0000, "Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:17:02 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> While red oak makes it taste like cat piss.
>>>
>>>So Luigi, can you describe that taste? LOL
>>
>> Up there in the frozen tundra, liquid water is sometimes impossible to
>> find. :-)
>
>Frozen *taiga*, not tundra. We have trees, unlike some people whose desert
>location I will refrain from mentioning.
>
touche'
>On the cat piss, it was in balmy Montreal, and not just any old tabby. See:
>
>http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=3c9beebe.17710551%40news1.yt.sympatico.ca
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A sure way? Yes.
Get some sodium nitrite (NaNo2) 5% or 10% solution and put some on the oak. If
it leaves a dark mark if it is white oak.
From Gene Wengert, forum technical advisor:
Red oak is not always more red than white oak. For example, black oak (which is
a red oak) has no red at all. Color is about 50% accurate.
Although red oak will let you blow bubbles, so will some white oak. This test
is not too good. Red oak growing under stress will not let you blow bubbles.
There is a test where you put a few drops of sodium nitrite solution on the oak
and if it turns dark colored, it is white oak. This test is 100%.
You can separate most white from red by noticing the ray length in the flatsawn
portion of the lumber, even on rough lumber. Once someone shows you this
technique, it is pretty easy. Most lumber graders and others with experience
with both groups of oak can separate them easily.
http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Distinguishing_White_Oak_from_Red.html
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"Warren" wrote in a message
>
> Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:39:45 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> One way to tell red oak from white it to taste the acorns. White is
>>> usually edible raw, while red must be boiled to remove the tanin.
>>
>>
>> So what do you do with a Live Oak acorn?
>When I was in Yosemite I read that live oak acorns were the indians' staple
>food.
>Anyhow, I "think" they are okay to eat raw; but since we don't have them in
>the frigid Northeast I have never tried them.
>Even if not edible, they are not poisonous; they will just be too bitter to
>eat.
>When boiled to remove the tanin, black oak acorns are too tasteless to eat,
>though they are nutritious.
>
yep.. they used to grind acorns into a kind of flour...
did you get a chance to see any of the grinding rocks while you were
there?
mac
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Andy Dingley wrote:
> Because of the open vessels, you can't make waterproof boats or
> barrels with red oak. Red oak is also a "coarser" looking timber and
> not generally used for cabinetry.
That is going to come as a shock to the *quite* large amount of
cabinetry around here that is built with Red Oak. White Oak is rare
around here; red oak is common as dirt. I think you may have made a
little too wild generalization there...
PK
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:08:14 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> While red oak makes it taste like cat piss.
>
>So Luigi, can you describe that taste? LOL
>
Up there in the frozen tundra, liquid water is sometimes impossible to
find. :-)
>
>
>
>> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
>> www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
>>
>
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:08:14 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Odd... to me, white oak smells like toast and vanilla.
>>
>> And red oak smells like cat piss.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> And white oak gives those flavors to wine or whiskey.
While red oak makes it taste like cat piss. You can't make barrels out of
red oak but some people use oak chips.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:03:59 -0500, Silvan wrote:
> Because of the brachiation and the lobes on the leaves, I have always
> assumed it was a white oak.
There are a gazillion oak species. Quercus is, IIRC, the most widespread
tree, and possibly the most widespread angiosperm in general, in terms of
sheer number of species. (It's been a long time since I was interested in
plant taxonomy.) Anyway, the lesson is that it's real easy for a
non-expert to get confused about what oak is which. I don't even try.
Maybe a windstorm'll get it and you can make something, tell us how it
turns out!
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:17:02 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>>"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> While red oak makes it taste like cat piss.
>>
>>So Luigi, can you describe that taste? LOL
>
> Up there in the frozen tundra, liquid water is sometimes impossible to
> find. :-)
Frozen *taiga*, not tundra. We have trees, unlike some people whose desert
location I will refrain from mentioning.
On the cat piss, it was in balmy Montreal, and not just any old tabby. See:
http://www.google.ca/groups?selm=3c9beebe.17710551%40news1.yt.sympatico.ca
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:03:35 -0500, SawDust (Pat) wrote:
>
> St. Jacque Street - Candiac ?
Candiac? Sorry I don't get the reference. The lion incident was (IIRC) at
the old Palais du commerce on Berri & what is now de Maisonneuve. It was
in 1960 or '61.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:03:59 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Interesting. There's an enormous tree near here. The leaves have rounded
>lobes, and they turn bright red in fall.
Then I'd guess it's a red oak. They often have leaves with a rounded
outline to the lobes, but there's a sharp point to the tip of them
(you might feel this better than seeing it). The ones with the
"pointed lobes" but without the spike are more usually the minor
species.
This is for the UK though - oaks are hard enough to identify anyway,
without trying to guess those on another continent without a picture.
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:11:29 -0500, Warren <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
>that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white.
Look at the leaves. Red oaks are one of those species that contain
anthocyanins so they go bright red in the fall, not just a faded
brown. That's where the name comes from.
If the leaves are green, then oaks have readily identifiable lobed
leaves. Red oaks have sharp points to the lobes, white oaks are
rounded. Be careful though, as there are a great many minor oak
species and it's easy to miss one of these.
As to the timber, then you should be able to Google a few pictures.
They're generally quite easily distinguished, but the crucial thing is
to look at the longitudinal vessels. In white oak these are blocked by
bubble-like tyloses. in red oaks they're clear.
>Also, are there any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
Because of the open vessels, you can't make waterproof boats or
barrels with red oak. Red oak is also a "coarser" looking timber and
not generally used for cabinetry.
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Damn, I meant Hardwood Lumber.
Andy Dingley responds:
>>Also, are there any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
>
>Because of the open vessels, you can't make waterproof boats or
>barrels with red oak. Red oak is also a "coarser" looking timber and
>not generally used for cabinetry.
I'll buy coarser, but "not generally used for cabinetry" may be true in
England. It sure isn't, and hasn't been, in the U.S. I'd guess roughly 75% of
the oak furniture and cabinetry I've seen is red oak, extending backwards in
time to Victorian pieces.
These days, when you order oak cabinets, the odds are you're going to get red
oak.
Coarseness, the openness of the grain, is reduced with fillers.
Charlie Self
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that which is expected." George W. Bush
"Charlie Self" wrote in message
> These days, when you order oak cabinets, the odds are you're going to get
red
> oak.
A local hardwood supplier has his S2S1E bins of red and white oak side by
side. Folks, being sloppy, often mix them up and you'll find red oak in the
white oak bin quite often ... but rarely the other way around.
Always wondered how much red oak is bought that way.
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Swingman responds:
>"Charlie Self" wrote in message
>
>> These days, when you order oak cabinets, the odds are you're going to get
>red
>> oak.
>
>A local hardwood supplier has his S2S1E bins of red and white oak side by
>side. Folks, being sloppy, often mix them up and you'll find red oak in the
>white oak bin quite often ... but rarely the other way around.
>
>Always wondered how much red oak is bought that way.
Around here, most red oak, but not all, is pinkish, while the white oak tends
towards a light tan. There are enough variants in color to make it very, very
easy to mistake what you're picked up. Unless you're building for weather
resistance, my guess is that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference in the
end result if the two woods are close enough in appearance to be mistaken for
each other. But if weather resistance is needed, red oak is nearly useless,
while if bending is needed it is the easist to use (but the smart woodworker
will probably grab ash for its near-oak appearance and super great
bendability).
Charlie Self
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Charlie Self" wrote in message
>
>> These days, when you order oak cabinets, the odds are you're going to get
> red
>> oak.
>
> A local hardwood supplier has his S2S1E bins of red and white oak side by
> side. Folks, being sloppy, often mix them up and you'll find red oak in
> the
> white oak bin quite often ... but rarely the other way around.
Must be Hardwood Products. They keep the S4S Red and White Oaks that way
too. Me being slopy pulled out 50 LF of White Oak thinking I was pulling
Red and Steve pointed out before he cut the 12' pieces in half that I had
White Oak. I looked back up at him and the bin and saw W. Oak. I said OH!
the "W" stands for White, I was thinking WED Oak. I smiled and bought the
White. I am just going to paint it anyway. LOL
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> "Leon" wrote in message
>>
>> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
>> >> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
>>
>> I notice that Red Oak takes on a pink cast when I sand it.
>
> Damn you guys with your color acuity ... I wouldn't know pink if... never
> mind. :)
Ok, Pink is always ... never mind. LOL
"Warren" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Is there a sure way of telling the difference? I've seen some wood
> that claims to be red oak that looked pretty white. Also, are there
> any good reasons to use one rather than the other?
Red oak is more porous, and courser texture. . It does have a redder cast to
it if you look at the two side by side. White oak is often more tan.
White oak is more weather resistant and a better choice for outdoor
projects.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:26:23 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I notice that Red Oak takes on a pink cast when I sand it.
Try ammonia fuming it - it goes greenish ! If you're after that
Craftsman look you may need to use a reddish shellac to tone it down.
Lots of timber has a pink cast when sanded. Freshly green (English)
ash is very notable for it - a pure white log can have a pile of
sawdust next to it that turns pink as you watch. I think it's an
oxidation going on with the freshly exposed surface.
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"Leon" wrote in message
>
> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
> >> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
>
> I notice that Red Oak takes on a pink cast when I sand it.
Damn you guys with your color acuity ... I wouldn't know pink if... never
mind. :)
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:01:14 GMT, "Leon"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Luigi Zanasi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:17:02 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:24:48 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>
>
>> On the cat piss, it was in balmy Montreal, and not just any old tabby.
>> See:
>
>LOL
>
>
>
"toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5%[email protected]...
> When I was in Yosemite I read that live oak acorns were the indians'
> staple food.
> Anyhow, I "think" they are okay to eat raw; but since we don't have them
> in the frigid Northeast I have never tried them.
> Even if not edible, they are not poisonous; they will just be too bitter
> to eat.
> When boiled to remove the tanin, black oak acorns are too tasteless to
> eat, though they are nutritious.
Cool. We had barrels full this fall.
"Leon" <[email protected]> writes:
> I notice that Red Oak takes on a pink cast when I sand it.
When our house was built, my dad was looking at our 7 year old red oak
dining room table sittin on our month old red oak floor. "Hey, your
table doesn't match the floor." I told him to come back in a year and
it would.
IMHO the best finish for red oak is time.
On Wednesday 19 Jan 2005 4:12 am, Groggy scribbled:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:55:55 +0000, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Now I drink award-winning Yukon beer (http://www.yukonbeer.com) which
>>is great stuff. You should get your liquor board/beer store to bring
>>it in. Really. (Disclaimer: I have no interest in that beer other than
>>being a satisfied customer and shareholder).
>
> Oz beer is better than Yukon beer - it doesn't have anti-freeze
> either!
I can't deny Yukon Beer does have antifreeze in it. Chemical formula is
C2H5OH, IIRC. Ah! I see now! That's why drinking Oz beer is just like
making love in a canoe.
> Just a comment on a part of other messages about lion's piss. If you
> have a problem with animals (cats, dogs or an occasional stray moose)
> get some lions piss and spray it around your property.
>
> When they get a whiff, cats explode into furballs, dogs disappear
> yelping, and moose, well, let me know huh?
If its a cow moose with a calf, she gets pissed off, starts pawing
around looking for the damn cat so she can kick the shit out of it.
Better to get between a grizzly sow and her cubs than a moose and her
calf. They are mean.
--
Luigi
Current real email is my first name in lower case while the domain is
yknet dot ca
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html
www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:55:55 +0000, Luigi Zanasi <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wednesday 19 Jan 2005 12:49 am, Paul Kierstead scribbled:
>
>> George wrote:
>>> I didn't know they sold India Beer in YT, but anyone who's had it
>>> knows about cat piss....
>>
>> Hey! I was practically brought up on that and Pony Piss! Well, ok, it
>> is pretty vile...
>
>Having lived in Newfoundland and New Brunswick (among other places), and
>having drunk lots of India Beer on George Street, I have to say that
>nothing outside of American beer was as vile as Moosehead, brewed from
>the effluent of the Irving paper plant, just upstream of the brewery in
>Saint John. Don't remember drinking Black Horse. Of course, pretty
>soon, it'll all taste like Coors.
>
>Anyway, despite the large number of Newfs in the Yukon, no Newfoundland
>beers are available here. But we can get Keith's (from Scova Notia),
>which I used to drink in New Brunswick.
>
>Now I drink award-winning Yukon beer (http://www.yukonbeer.com) which is
>great stuff. You should get your liquor board/beer store to bring it
>in. Really. (Disclaimer: I have no interest in that beer other than
>being a satisfied customer and shareholder).
Oz beer is better than Yukon beer - it doesn't have anti-freeze
either!
Just a comment on a part of other messages about lion's piss. If you
have a problem with animals (cats, dogs or an occasional stray moose)
get some lions piss and spray it around your property.
When they get a whiff, cats explode into furballs, dogs disappear
yelping, and moose, well, let me know huh?
Grogs
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Odd... to me, white oak smells like toast and vanilla.
>
> And red oak smells like cat piss.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
And white oak gives those flavors to wine or whiskey.
Used to be that US made barrels were made with kiln dried wood, but now they
use air dried like the French have for years. American oak was considered
too strong for good wine.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, DJ Delorie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>>(1) Get it wet (i.e. spit on it). White oak stays about the same
>> color when wet, red oak get much pinker.
I notice that Red Oak takes on a pink cast when I sand it.