Hello,
I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
Vac vacuum for dust collection.
However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
good solution.
Thanks,
Steve
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:41:00 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>I've never had any luck w/ collecting any significant amount of dust
>when ripping anyway since the guard tilts forward to touch the material
>at the front which leaves a larger open area at the rear and most of the
>sawdust is ejected rearward and never in the guard anyway.
I think you may be positioning the guard incorrectly. The manual for
my RAS says to tilt the guard so the rear of the guard (the infeed
side when ripping) is just slightly higher than the top of the board
being cut. Connect the vacuum hose to the port on the front of the
guard (the outfeed side).
It doesn't get everything but it gets maybe 90%.
G.S.
On Mar 14, 2:35 pm, Steve Sr. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
> ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
> Vac vacuum for dust collection.
>
> However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
> 25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
> 1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
> 1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
>
> I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
> from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
> saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
> information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
>
> Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
> adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
> must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
> good solution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
You might try a 1.5 inch 90 degree PVC street elbow on the saw's port.
That's what's on my miter saw. I had to add a little tape for a good
friction fit. Then check Woodcraft for an adapter to the 2.5 inch
hose. HTH. Tom
"Steve Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
> 25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
> 1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
> 1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45029&cat=1,42401,62597
I'm with Tom! Or you could use a straight pvc coupling either 1.25 or 1.5,
whichever fits best. If needs be use a hose clamp or wiretie to make fit
more snug.
"tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 14, 2:35 pm, Steve Sr. <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
> > ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
> > Vac vacuum for dust collection.
> >
> > However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
> > 25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
> > 1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
> > 1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
> >
> > I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
> > from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
> > saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
> > information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
> >
> > Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
> > adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
> > must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
> > good solution.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
>
> You might try a 1.5 inch 90 degree PVC street elbow on the saw's port.
> That's what's on my miter saw. I had to add a little tape for a good
> friction fit. Then check Woodcraft for an adapter to the 2.5 inch
> hose. HTH. Tom
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:35:27 -0400, Steve Sr. <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
>ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
>Vac vacuum for dust collection.
>
>However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
>25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
>1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
>1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
>
>I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
>from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
>saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
>information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
>
>Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
>adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
>must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
>good solution.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve
My saw is about 30+ years old and the port on the front of the guard
that is used for ripping. The port has a 90 deg rubber elbow that is
connected to the port. Inside the elbow is a plastic bushing that is
designed to adapt to a 1-1/4(?) hose fitting. Inside the bushing is a
plastic plug that has a friction fit that prevents sawdust from
following that path during cross-cutting operations.
My shop vac has 2-1/2 hose so I use a 1-1/4 to 2-1/2 adapter and it
fits fine.
I looked at my manual for the part numbers and it only shows the
elbow. No bushing or plug. Maybe they are included with the elbow?
My saw is a 12", model number 113.23301.
The part number for the elbow is 63258.
Hope this helps.
G.S.
Steve Sr. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
> ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
> Vac vacuum for dust collection.
>
> However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
> 25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
> 1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
> 1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
>
> I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
> from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
> saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
> information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
>
> Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
> adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
> must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
> good solution.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
Have you tried a "Universal Vacuum Hose Adapter".. I believe Home Depot
sells something similar to the that depicted in the link below.
http://www.toolbarn.com/product/shopvac/906-87-62/
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
Steve Sr. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an old Craftsman radial arm saw that I occasionally use for
> ripping big lumber. I would like to be able to hook it up to my Shop
> Vac vacuum for dust collection.
>
> However, this saw and all similar saws apparently made over the past
> 25 years have an oddball dust collection fitting. It appears to be
> 1.5" I.D. and 1.75" O.D. This does not attach to any of the standard
> 1.25" or 2.5" standard vacuum hoses.
>
> I tried to buy an adapter at Sears but all I got was a blank stare
> from the manager of the power tool department. I looked online and I
> saw a 1.875" hose kit which looked interesting but there wasn't enough
> information as to the sizes of the fittings and adapters.
>
> Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
> adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
> must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
> good solution.
>
Duct tape?
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:57:00 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> I think you may be positioning the guard incorrectly. The manual for
>> my RAS says to tilt the guard so the rear of the guard
>
>If you're still tilting your guard, you may want to check the recall site.
>You are probably eligible for a new, safe, guard and table top.
>
>http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/
Thanks for the heads-up but mine is a 12" and isn't part of that
recall.
G.S.
Steve Sr. wrote:
...
> Do any of you have any suggestions as to where to get a hose or an
> adapter that will work with this saws dust collection fitting? There
> must be enough of these saws around that somebody has come up with a
> good solution.
...
I've never had any luck w/ collecting any significant amount of dust
when ripping anyway since the guard tilts forward to touch the material
at the front which leaves a larger open area at the rear and most of the
sawdust is ejected rearward and never in the guard anyway.
I think the only real solution would be to use a hood arrangement to the
rear rather than the side ejection point but I've never felt it worth
the effort to try it for the Rockwell (14") here which I use mostly for
the same purpose.
--
Gordon Shumway wrote:
> I think you may be positioning the guard incorrectly. The manual for
> my RAS says to tilt the guard so the rear of the guard
If you're still tilting your guard, you may want to check the recall site.
You are probably eligible for a new, safe, guard and table top.
http://www.radialarmsawrecall.com/
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
Gordon Shumway wrote:
...
> I think you may be positioning the guard incorrectly. The manual for
> my RAS says to tilt the guard so the rear of the guard (the infeed
> side when ripping) is just slightly higher than the top of the board
> being cut. ...
If it has a two-piece guard that will let the rear and front move
independently.
This is old enough it has only a one-piece guard and the non-solid
hanging guards on the rear to prevent accidental side entry. But since
they're not solid they're of no benefit whatever for dust collection.
BTW, one rips _against_ the rotation, not with it as one does when
moving the head when cross-cutting.
--
-MIKE- wrote:
...
> If you're still tilting your guard, you may want to check the recall site.
> You are probably eligible for a new, safe, guard and table top.
...
Not hardly!!! :)
This is a 1950s 14" Rockwell--back when if you were silly enough to
stick your hand or arm in it, you were considered to have deserved to be
known as "stumpy"...
--
dpb wrote:
...
> This is a 1950s 14" Rockwell--
Similar to, but older--S/N is effaced to be illegible so can't
definitively date it but I'm pretty certain it's no newer than early 60s
at most.
Here's picture of an Original Saw Co saw w/ a collection hood similar
(but more elaborate than) to what I've done for crosscut collection--as
noted, it's quite difficult for ripping.
<http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5327>
--
dpb wrote:
> dpb wrote:
> ...
>> This is a 1950s 14" Rockwell--
>
> Similar to, but older--S/N is effaced to be illegible so can't
> definitively date it but I'm pretty certain it's no newer than early 60s
> at most.
Dang it, forgot the link...
<http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5423>
While fetching the above, happened across a 12" but w/ better view of
guard...the loose/hanging rim guards are much more easily seen there.
<http://www.owwm.com/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=5922>
--
Gordon Shumway wrote:
...
> Yes that is correct. What made you think that was contrary to what I
> said?
The suggestion the guard is only slightly lower in front. In that
configuration there's nothing to hold the feedstock down and the blade
will try to pick it up, particularly, of course, w/ 4/4 or thinner
stock. OTOH, if on were trying to feed the other way (which I've seen
advocated more than once :( ), it does want to grab and pull, but it
will hold stock on the table.
Overall just trying to make clear and correct a misconception _if_ there
were one...
--
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:28:07 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>Gordon Shumway wrote:
>...
>> I think you may be positioning the guard incorrectly. The manual for
>> my RAS says to tilt the guard so the rear of the guard (the infeed
>> side when ripping) is just slightly higher than the top of the board
>> being cut. ...
>
>If it has a two-piece guard that will let the rear and front move
>independently.
>
>This is old enough it has only a one-piece guard and the non-solid
>hanging guards on the rear to prevent accidental side entry. But since
>they're not solid they're of no benefit whatever for dust collection.
>
My guard is a one-piece guard and the front and rear are not
independent of each other.
>BTW, one rips _against_ the rotation, not with it as one does when
>moving the head when cross-cutting.
Yes that is correct. What made you think that was contrary to what I
said?
G.S.