Here is my spin on charlieb's thread:
I was cleaning up the gara... er.. shop Sunday afternoon and I kept
looking at a few nice pieces of spalted sycamore I'd picked up pretty
cheap a couple of weeks ago, trying to decide what they were going to
become. :-) Since SWMBO is something of a minimalist when it comes to
furnishings and accessories, and is constantly reminding me that she
doesn't need any more "dust collectors" in the house, I was thinking in
terms of something useful for the shop.
I finally decided there was enough wood there for a small tool organizer
of some sort, maybe even partly inspired by charlieb's wall hanging
cabinet. I knew mine would have to be smaller due to the quantity of
material available, and freestanding, due to a lack of wall space. I sat
there for about an hour, just looking at the boards and thinking, then I
commenced cutting and gluing.
Making a few deviations from the plan in my head as I went along, I was
pretty satisfied with the results when I was done. Now all I had to do
was figure out where to put the thing. I looked at the three drawer
chest I had made a few months ago, and was thinking that the organizer
seemed about the right size to sit right on top of it. I got out the
tape measure, and wouldn't you know that with no forethought whatsoever,
I had made both pieces exactly 24" wide!
Now just putting the organizer on top of the chest (which was taking up
a good bit of space on my bench already) wouldn't work because it would
block other stuff hanging on the wall. Again, a flash of lightning, and
it occurred to me that if the whole thing was on wheels I could tuck it
away when not in use, roll it over to whatever part of the shop I was
working in, and free up some bench space.
Here is the finished product:
http://www.loyno.edu/~cbmarsh/toolcaddy.htm
A little synthesisity maybe, but mostly dumb luck.
On Mar 22, 1:30=EF=BF=BDpm, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Here is my spin on charlieb's thread:
>
> I was cleaning up the gara... er.. shop Sunday afternoon and I kept
> looking at a few nice pieces of spalted sycamore I'd picked up pretty
> cheap a couple of weeks ago, trying to decide what they were going to
> become. :-) Since SWMBO is something of a minimalist when it comes to
> furnishings and accessories, and is constantly reminding me that she
> doesn't need any more "dust collectors" in the house, I was thinking in
> terms of something useful for the shop.
>
> I finally decided there was enough wood there for a small tool organizer
> of some sort, maybe even partly inspired by charlieb's wall hanging
> cabinet. I knew mine would have to be smaller due to the quantity of
> material available, and freestanding, due to a lack of wall space. I sat
> there for about an hour, just looking at the boards and thinking, then I
> commenced cutting and gluing.
>
> Making a few deviations from the plan in my head as I went along, I was
> pretty satisfied with the results when I was done. Now all I had to do
> was figure out where to put the thing. I looked at the three drawer
> chest I had made a few months ago, and was thinking that the organizer
> seemed about the right size to sit right on top of it. I got out the
> tape measure, and wouldn't you know that with no forethought whatsoever,
> =A0 I had made both pieces exactly 24" wide!
>
> Now just putting the organizer on top of the chest (which was taking up
> a good bit of space on my bench already) wouldn't work because it would
> block other stuff hanging on the wall. Again, a flash of lightning, and
> it occurred to me that if the whole thing was on wheels I could tuck it
> away when not in use, roll it over to whatever part of the shop I was
> working in, and free up some bench space.
>
> Here is the finished product:
>
> http://www.loyno.edu/~cbmarsh/toolcaddy.htm
>
> A little synthesisity maybe, but mostly dumb luck.
Someday I hope to have a shop big enough and tidy enough where
something as nice as that won't look out of place!
You described the process I use in almost everything I do. And I know
even before I begin that it's going to be a decorative box of some
kind . . . So I never know really where I'm going to end up when I
start out. I just let my whimsy take over as I go along. Sometimes I
get a clear idea of where I want to go somewhere in the middle. I
like it that way. I don't have the patience to be a "planner" and
draw everything out beforehand. And I could never be a "copyist" like
Norm. I guess I must be expressing "something" in my work and that
free feeling of expression gives me the most satisfaction.
FoggyTown
On Mar 22, 6:12=EF=BF=BDpm, darkon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Charlie M. 1958 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > FoggyTown wrote:
>
> >> You described the process I use in almost everything I do. =A0And
> >> I know even before I begin that it's going to be a decorative
> >> box of some kind . . . =A0So I never know really where I'm going
> >> to end up when I start out. =A0I just let my whimsy take over as
> >> I go along. =A0Sometimes I get a clear idea of where I want to go
> >> somewhere in the middle. =A0I like it that way. =A0I don't have the
> >> patience to be a "planner" and draw everything out beforehand.
> >> And I could never be a "copyist" like Norm. =A0I guess I must be
> >> expressing "something" in my work and that free feeling of
> >> expression gives me the most satisfaction.
>
> >> FoggyTown
>
> > Agreed. I look at plans for ideas sometimes, but the creative
> > aspect is at least half the fun for me.
>
> I made a small stool for a friend's little girl, 6"x12", maybe 6"
> tall. =A0(The stool had those measurements, not the girl.) =A0I used
> finish nails to hold it together. =A0As I was driving the last nail,
> I got careless and the end of the nail came out the middle of the
> side curtain. =A0After some thought, I sanded the end of the nail
> flush, then cut matching hearts from some thin wood. =A0I glued one
> over the nail protrusion and the other in the same position on the
> other side of the stool. =A0Now it looks like I planned it that way.- Hid=
e quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
As I often say, "Every screwup is an opportunity for improved design
modification."
On Mar 23, 2:28?pm, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
> in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
Since I was a liberal arts major in the 60s, I was completely
mystified by those things. If they weren't somehow associated with
beer, grass and parties - what use were they?
FoggyTown
On Mar 23, 7:44=EF=BF=BDpm, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> FoggyTown wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 2:28?pm, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
> >> in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
>
> > Since I was a liberal arts major in the 60s, I was completely
> > mystified by those things. =A0If they weren't somehow associated with
> > beer, grass and parties - what use were they?
>
> > FoggyTown
>
> heh....heh... I learned about slide rules in high school. Precisely
> *why* I went on to major in liberal arts with a concentration in those
> subjects you mentioned. :-)
You must have been like us. The only reason we ever invited "engineer
types" to parties was to have someone handy to tease or abuse.
FoggyTown
FoggyTown wrote:
> You described the process I use in almost everything I do. And I know
> even before I begin that it's going to be a decorative box of some
> kind . . . So I never know really where I'm going to end up when I
> start out. I just let my whimsy take over as I go along. Sometimes I
> get a clear idea of where I want to go somewhere in the middle. I
> like it that way. I don't have the patience to be a "planner" and
> draw everything out beforehand. And I could never be a "copyist" like
> Norm. I guess I must be expressing "something" in my work and that
> free feeling of expression gives me the most satisfaction.
>
> FoggyTown
>
Agreed. I look at plans for ideas sometimes, but the creative aspect is
at least half the fun for me.
RonB wrote:
>> ...... I sat there for about an hour, just looking at the boards and
>> thinking, then I commenced cutting and gluing.
>
> That sounds a little like me. I subscribe to the theory that if you stare
> at something long enough you can eventually make it happen.
>
> I do, however make some shop sketches or even layout drawings of most
> projects. Can't help it - I was a draftsman in a previous life. I'm CAD
> trained but most of my experience in on the drawing board (For those
> unfamiliar, that is a flat table on which one uses pencils, pens,
> straightedges and various instruments to make precision drawings - WITHOUT a
> computer).
>
> RonB
>
>
LOL! My dad is a retired civil engineer from the pre-computer days. He
once showed me this contraption for making calculations... I think he
called it a "slide rule" or some such nonsense.....
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
>
> > LOL! My dad is a retired civil engineer from the pre-computer days. He
> > once showed me this contraption for making calculations... I think he
> > called it a "slide rule" or some such nonsense.....
>
> Them's fightin words.
>
> You are hereby challenged to a duel with log-log-decitrigs complete with
> folding and log scales at high noon<G>.
>
> (You bet your sweet ass I still know how to use mine)
>
> Lew
Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
FoggyTown wrote:
> On Mar 23, 2:28?pm, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
>> in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
>
> Since I was a liberal arts major in the 60s, I was completely
> mystified by those things. If they weren't somehow associated with
> beer, grass and parties - what use were they?
>
> FoggyTown
>
heh....heh... I learned about slide rules in high school. Precisely
*why* I went on to major in liberal arts with a concentration in those
subjects you mentioned. :-)
Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
> in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
>
>
When I went through high school, their use had been discontinued. I
learned how to use one anyways. Then I got one of those fancy 4 -
function calculators that fit in my pocket with the little lamps that
had a collection of filament shapes inside that KNEW THE ANSWER and I
never looked back. Then one day I found myself in a machine shop with a
vernier caliper.
Deja vu all over again. ;-)
I think my poor boss soiled himself when I was able to read it on the
first go-round.
Bill
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Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule
> in school, although their use was in rapid decline.
Toughest part of learning to use a "slip stick" was to properly locate
the decimal point.
BTW, sign of a true nerd, having your slide rule hanging from your belt.
Had a prof, retired navy admiral, who would reduce your grade a full
letter if you wore your slide rule on your belt to his class.
Lew
darkon <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns98FB9072E1DBDdkwwashere@
216.168.3.30:
> I made a small stool for a friend's little girl, 6"x12", maybe 6"
> tall. (The stool had those measurements, not the girl.) I used
> finish nails to hold it together. As I was driving the last nail,
> I got careless and the end of the nail came out the middle of the
> side curtain. After some thought, I sanded the end of the nail
> flush, then cut matching hearts from some thin wood. I glued one
> over the nail protrusion and the other in the same position on the
> other side of the stool. Now it looks like I planned it that way.
Good save.
I've got a story too. The night before my module was due to be shown at
a train show, I was putting some "finishing touches" on the road. I
turned on the shop vac, and it rather quickly sucked up a large section
of road. My solution was to rubber cement a tree down onto the road and
not say anything about it. People thought it was intentional, and I got
a few positive comments on it.
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
> LOL! My dad is a retired civil engineer from the pre-computer days. He
> once showed me this contraption for making calculations... I think he
> called it a "slide rule" or some such nonsense.....
I got a good laugh from an old board draftsman friend a couple of months
ago. He had worked at Boeing several years ago, and did quite a few B-52
mod drawings. The Air Force required periodic change-order updates and none
of the CATIA whiz-kids knew what to do. All of the drawings were ink on
mylar or linen. After several pleading calls, they finally got Ralph and a
few of his old associates out of retirement.
According to Ralph he really didn't want to go back to work but he couldn't
resist the $150/hour rate - or being supervised by kids who didn't know what
the hell all that funny looking drafting equipment they had to round up was
used for.
They had CATIA contractors in the same room making $80 to $100/hour.
RonB
>...... I sat there for about an hour, just looking at the boards and
>thinking, then I commenced cutting and gluing.
That sounds a little like me. I subscribe to the theory that if you stare
at something long enough you can eventually make it happen.
I do, however make some shop sketches or even layout drawings of most
projects. Can't help it - I was a draftsman in a previous life. I'm CAD
trained but most of my experience in on the drawing board (For those
unfamiliar, that is a flat table on which one uses pencils, pens,
straightedges and various instruments to make precision drawings - WITHOUT a
computer).
RonB
Charlie M. 1958 <[email protected]> wrote:
> FoggyTown wrote:
>
>> You described the process I use in almost everything I do. And
>> I know even before I begin that it's going to be a decorative
>> box of some kind . . . So I never know really where I'm going
>> to end up when I start out. I just let my whimsy take over as
>> I go along. Sometimes I get a clear idea of where I want to go
>> somewhere in the middle. I like it that way. I don't have the
>> patience to be a "planner" and draw everything out beforehand.
>> And I could never be a "copyist" like Norm. I guess I must be
>> expressing "something" in my work and that free feeling of
>> expression gives me the most satisfaction.
>>
>> FoggyTown
>>
>
> Agreed. I look at plans for ideas sometimes, but the creative
> aspect is at least half the fun for me.
I made a small stool for a friend's little girl, 6"x12", maybe 6"
tall. (The stool had those measurements, not the girl.) I used
finish nails to hold it together. As I was driving the last nail,
I got careless and the end of the nail came out the middle of the
side curtain. After some thought, I sanded the end of the nail
flush, then cut matching hearts from some thin wood. I glued one
over the nail protrusion and the other in the same position on the
other side of the stool. Now it looks like I planned it that way.
"Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is my spin on charlieb's thread:
>
> I was cleaning up the gara... er.. shop Sunday afternoon and I kept
> looking at a few nice pieces of spalted sycamore I'd picked up pretty
> cheap a couple of weeks ago, trying to decide what they were going to
> become. :-) Since SWMBO is something of a minimalist when it comes to
> furnishings and accessories, and is constantly reminding me that she
> doesn't need any more "dust collectors" in the house, I was thinking in
> terms of something useful for the shop.
>
> I finally decided there was enough wood there for a small tool organizer
> of some sort, maybe even partly inspired by charlieb's wall hanging
> cabinet. I knew mine would have to be smaller due to the quantity of
> material available, and freestanding, due to a lack of wall space. I sat
> there for about an hour, just looking at the boards and thinking, then I
> commenced cutting and gluing.
>
> Making a few deviations from the plan in my head as I went along, I was
> pretty satisfied with the results when I was done. Now all I had to do was
> figure out where to put the thing. I looked at the three drawer chest I
> had made a few months ago, and was thinking that the organizer seemed
> about the right size to sit right on top of it. I got out the tape
> measure, and wouldn't you know that with no forethought whatsoever, I had
> made both pieces exactly 24" wide!
>
> Now just putting the organizer on top of the chest (which was taking up a
> good bit of space on my bench already) wouldn't work because it would
> block other stuff hanging on the wall. Again, a flash of lightning, and it
> occurred to me that if the whole thing was on wheels I could tuck it away
> when not in use, roll it over to whatever part of the shop I was working
> in, and free up some bench space.
>
> Here is the finished product:
>
> http://www.loyno.edu/~cbmarsh/toolcaddy.htm
>
> A little synthesisity maybe, but mostly dumb luck.
Looks nice. And convenient.
I am feeling a little upset by all this good looking shop furniture that
looks better than the stuff I have in my house.
Is synthesisity a word?
Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
> FoggyTown wrote:
>
>> You must have been like us. The only reason we ever invited
>> "engineer types" to parties was to have someone handy to tease or
>> abuse.
>>
>> FoggyTown
>>
>
> Well, you had to have someone at the party who, by comparison, made
> you look cool to the women.
Just be happy you never invited any engineer women. There was one in my
class at Tech (gorgeous by the way) who was putting herself through
school working summers as an instructor at the Colorado Outward Bound
(which means that she got to haul the weenies _down_ the mountain who
broke themselves going _up_ the mountain). Somebody challenged her to a
chugging contest once. She put down not one, but _two_ Guinness in a
single pour.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>>
>> (You bet your sweet ass I still know how to use mine)
>>
>> Lew
>
> Actually, Lew, I am old enough to have learned how to use a slide rule in
> school, although their use was in rapid decline.
Charlie - I'm guessing you are somewhere near 55 (+/- 5). I learned to use
a slide rule in tech school too and graduated in '67. During the early to
mid 70's HP and TI started producing the technical calculators that
eventually replaced the sliderules.
RonB
RonB wrote:
> I do, however make some shop sketches or even layout drawings of most
> projects. Can't help it - I was a draftsman in a previous life.
You too huh?
Put myself thru school "slinging lead".
Had a callus on my middle finger for several years after I quit.
Still remember doing layouts for foundry automation systems that used
about 20 ft of vellum in one piece for a line layout, even though the
table was only about 5-7 feet wide.
By the time CAD came around, I was doing other things.
Lew
"Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>>
>> Is synthesisity a word?
>
> Hell, I don't know. If it's good enough for charlieb it's good enough
> for me!
I found this.
syn·the·sis /'s?n??s?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[sin-thuh-sis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun, plural -ses /-?siz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[-seez] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation. 1. the
combining of the constituent elements of separate material or abstract
entities into a single or unified entity (opposed to analysis).
2. a complex whole formed by combining.
3. Chemistry. the forming or building of a more complex substance or
compound from elements or simpler compounds.
4. Philosophy. See under Hegelian dialectic.
5. Biology. modern synthesis.
6. Psychology, Psychiatry. the integration of traits, attitudes, and
impulses to create a total personality.
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[Origin: 1580-90; < L < Gk sýnthesis, equiv. to syn- syn- + the- (s. of
tithénai to put, place) + -sis -sis]
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Charlie M. 1958 wrote:
> LOL! My dad is a retired civil engineer from the pre-computer days. He
> once showed me this contraption for making calculations... I think he
> called it a "slide rule" or some such nonsense.....
Them's fightin words.
You are hereby challenged to a duel with log-log-decitrigs complete
with folding and log scales at high noon<G>.
(You bet your sweet ass I still know how to use mine)
Lew