I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
you done this? Thanks for your help.
If you have a long enough bessy parallel jaw clamp then.
Lets say it is a 30" long, 3" log
Lay the log on the table
Lay the 36" clamp on the table on its side parallel to the log
Slide the log 1 1/4" into the clamp jaws at each end, leaving 1 3/4
free
Clamp it tight
Butting the back side of the clamp against the fence, rip a 1 1/2"
deep slot at the center of the log
(Note, extend the fence edge as needed with a long 2x4).
Rotate the log 90 degrees and clamp it in the same manner as before
(note the waste should be on the free side away from the clamp and the
fence, unless the clamp jaws are deep enough to hold both the finished
log and the waste.
Repeat the rip cut
Note, I have never done this but have contemplated it for some time.
If you feel your balls lifting into your body cavity as you hear the
table blade wind up, then consider some plan B. That is lifes little
(or big) alarm bells you are feeling. I think I would feel ok with
this as long as the clamp felt like it had a good bite.
On Oct 28, 3:23=A0pm, jugglerguy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. =A0I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. =A0I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. =A0I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. =A0I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. =A0I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. =A0My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? =A0If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. =A0Have any of
> you done this? =A0Thanks for your help.
On Oct 28, 8:38 pm, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > cedar log about 3 inches in diameter. When I'm finished with this
> > log, I should be able to look at it from the end and see a 90 degree
> > wedge removed, like a quarter of a piece of pie gone. This pie piece
> > will extend from one end of the log to the other. Four of these logs
> > will be attached to the edges of a box, just for decorative purposes.
>
> I might try building a sled that rides against the table saw's fence -
> kind of like a modified v-block. I'll post an end view sketch to
> news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking to illustrate...
If you make it a U that rides over the fence you don't have to worry
about it going anywhere. I would put end caps on it so you're
attaching the log on the ends not trying to go into the sides. Use a
nail as a pivot point in the center. Set the blade height a little
short. Put a screw into the waste area to prevent rotation. Make a
pass. Take out the screw. Rotate. Second pass. Chisel out the
waste.
-Kevin
On Oct 28, 6:45=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> > Not quite sure what you are trying to do.
>
> But if I was goint to put a long dado groove into a log, I would use a
> router. =A0I would build a jig to run the router on. And I would screw in=
to
> that section of the log where the wood is going to be removed.
I don't think this is a job for a router. I'm going to start with a
cedar log about 3 inches in diameter. When I'm finished with this
log, I should be able to look at it from the end and see a 90 degree
wedge removed, like a quarter of a piece of pie gone. This pie piece
will extend from one end of the log to the other. Four of these logs
will be attached to the edges of a box, just for decorative purposes.
Here's a link to a picture of a desk that is similar to the one I plan
to build:
http://www.logfurnitureplace.com/Office/Den-Log-Desks/c54_75/p579/'Cottage'=
-Log-Student-Desk/product_info.html
Thanks again.
On Oct 28, 6:23=A0pm, jugglerguy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. =A0I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. =A0I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. =A0I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. =A0I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. =A0I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. =A0My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? =A0If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. =A0Have any of
> you done this? =A0Thanks for your help.
HOT MELT GLUE TO JIG - ROTATE ASSEMBLY - Sacrificial jig
Would help if we knew the rough diameter of "the logs"
On Oct 28, 8:06=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Oct 28, 6:45=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > > Not quite sure what you are trying to do.
>
> > But if I was goint to put a long dado groove into a log, I would use a
> > router. =A0I would build a jig to run the router on. And I would screw =
into
> > that section of the log where the wood is going to be removed.
>
> I don't think this is a job for a router. =A0I'm going to start with a
> cedar log about 3 inches in diameter. =A0When I'm finished with this
> log, I should be able to look at it from the end and see a 90 degree
> wedge removed, like a quarter of a piece of pie gone. =A0This pie piece
> will extend from one end of the log to the other. =A0Four of these logs
> will be attached to the edges of a box, just for decorative purposes.
>
> Here's a link to a picture of a desk that is similar to the one I plan
> to build:http://www.logfurnitureplace.com/Office/Den-Log-Desks/c54_75/p57=
9/'Co...
>
> Thanks again.
Hard to tell from the pictures how they did it - could have cut slots
into the "logs" to catch the drawer frame material.
You could do what you propose with a router as well as cutting a
"slot" that you repeat / widen would result in the ninety degree . cut
you describe use a long 1/2" bit that cuts a flat bottom and mve to
the outside of the log until all material is removed and viola, you
have it.
"jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
I'd nail a straight 2x4 or some other straight edge to the log and use it to
guide a router. Move the 2x4 to the other side of the cut and repeat. Since
the desk leg will fill any visible parts of the slot you've cut, it won't
matter if the router cuts too deep in some spots because of uneven long
surface.
Essentially, you could do the same thing with the table saw. In that case,
the 2x4 would ride on the table saw surface with some type of spacer thinner
than the 2x4 between it and the saw fence.
"jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
Not quite sure what you are trying to do.
But if I was goint to put a long dado groove into a log, I would use a
router. I would build a jig to run the router on. And I would screw into
that section of the log where the wood is going to be removed.
[email protected] wrote:
> cedar log about 3 inches in diameter. When I'm finished with this
> log, I should be able to look at it from the end and see a 90 degree
> wedge removed, like a quarter of a piece of pie gone. This pie piece
> will extend from one end of the log to the other. Four of these logs
> will be attached to the edges of a box, just for decorative purposes.
I might try building a sled that rides against the table saw's fence -
kind of like a modified v-block. I'll post an end view sketch to
news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking to illustrate...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
[email protected] wrote in news:0ecb2b26-8316-4733-b909-9b61db61da84
@v15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I never did figure out how to look at
> the pictures posted at news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking, but I
> think I have some good ideas from the written suggestions here. I had
> no idea that brass screws wouldn't hurt a carbide blade.
Go here:
http://www.usenet-
replayer.com/groups/alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.html
Watch for URL wrap.
Using Google Groups does not give you binaries access, and that's what you
need to view pictures on alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking.
Puckdropper
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"jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
I do it with a chainsaw. I live in a log home and I've had to notch for
corner posts before. If you don't have a chainsaw, you can probably find
someone nearby that can do it for you. Couple of minutes worth of work.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Hoosierpopi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8ba078bb-e001-4c80-86db-e170b92a6553@m74g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> news:alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking to illustrate...
>
>
> How does one get there to view same? New to thise news groups stuff -
> reply to ME please
It is customary to reply to the group when questions or thoughts are posted
to the group. It shouldn't take any effort to come up to speed with
newsgroups - if you can handle email, then you can handle newsgroups. Just
watch for replies to the threads you're involved in.
Since you're new, here's another hint. It is best to include the relevant
portions of the text you are replying to. Note how your comment appears in
my reply. That lends context to the reply. Notice how your reply does not
lend any real understanding of what you are asking for.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:21:53 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"jugglerguy" wrote
>
>> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
>> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk.
>
>Have a band saw? On spare log. try this:
>
>Cut the log in half, cut one of the halves in half, glue one of the quarters
>to the half.
>
>Done carefully, and depending upon the type of wood, you may be able to get
>a glue line that will pass close inspection.
>
>Just another approach ...
...this is an interesting approach! But he's got the table saw to
work with and it'd be easy to make a sled with just a couple of pieces
of ply/mdf/whatever 90 degrees opposed, maybe 3" big on a side with a
couple of square end caps attached. Simply put the log in it, screw
into the end grain through the end caps where the screw will be out of
the blade's kerf, raise your blade accordingly and run it through, end
caps and all. Rotate the log and find your 90 degrees, screw it in
again and run it. Done and keep the jig!
Charlie Groh
I've quartered logs, as this, before. Build a box, like a window
planter box, with one side open and the inside measures slightly
(1/16") larger than the diameter of the logs (not perfect cylinders).
This is your sled. Attach the log to the box, at the ends, with
screws in the three quardrants you will keep. Make two passes for
each cut with the cut-away portion of the log on the opposite side of
the blade as your fence, ie., your box will always be against the
fence. Spin the box around and cut from the other end for your other
cut, ie, your sled will, again, be against the fence. Multiple cuts,
fast and easy. If the screw holes are an issue, carve some "dowels"
from your scrap and drive them into the screw holes.
Sonny
jugglerguy wrote:
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
Since you are cutting at least two of these, you idea of a jig/sled is a
good one.
Were it me, I would make a sled to go over the "RIP FENCE" rather than the
miter slot. This would give greater stability and put all your cutoffs on
the side away from the rip fence. You could find center on each end of the
log, mark the amount of depth you wanted for your dado/rabbit AND with a
bit of plane geometry mark 90 degrees to your first cut (all on the end of
the log). Rotate 90 degrees and repeat the cut.
The sled would simply be a "shoe" of 3/4" stock to ride the rip fence, a
piece of plywood as wide as your log for the log to ride on (any excess
width will be removed with your first pass) and two brackets of 3/4" stock
mounted to the blade side of the shoe to hold the log in place using a
couple of screws on each end, out of the path of the blade naturally, to
hold the log in place.
Deb
On Oct 29, 1:22=A0am, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you have a long enough bessy parallel jaw clamp then.
>
> Lets say it is a 30" long, 3" log
> Lay the log on the table
> Lay the 36" clamp on the table on its side parallel to the log
> Slide the log 1 1/4" into the clamp jaws at each end, leaving 1 3/4
> free
> Clamp it tight
> Butting the back side of the clamp against the fence, rip a 1 1/2"
> deep slot at the center of the log
> (Note, extend the fence edge as needed with a long 2x4).
> Rotate the log 90 degrees and clamp it in the same manner as before
> (note the waste should be on the free side away from the clamp and the
> fence, unless the clamp jaws are deep enough to hold both the finished
> log and the waste.
> Repeat the rip cut
>
> Note, I have never done this but have contemplated it for some time.
> If you feel your balls lifting into your body cavity as you hear the
> table blade wind up, then consider some plan B. That is lifes little
> (or big) alarm bells you are feeling. I think I would feel ok with
> this as long as the clamp felt like it had a good bite.
>
> On Oct 28, 3:23=A0pm, jugglerguy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm planning to build a desk for my son. =A0I built him a log bed a few
> > years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. =A0I'm not a very
> > skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. =A0I'd like to add vertical
> > logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> > the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. =A0I
> > imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> > miter gauge slot of my table saw. =A0I'll run the log through, rotate i=
t
> > 90 degrees and run it through again. =A0My question is, how do I attach
> > the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? =A0If I use
> > screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. =A0Have any of
> > you done this? =A0Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Perhaps you could just drill a hole in the end of the log and attach
it to the desk with a dowel.
Mark
I want to thank everyone for their help and show everyone how the logs
turned out. I made my jig slightly longer than then length of the
logs I needed for my project. It's hard to cut the end of a log
perfectly square, so this will allow me to put my finished notched out
logs on a piece of square lumber and then cut them off square on my
miter saw.
Before I cut the first log, I ran my jig through the table saw to cut
out the corners. Then I marked the center of each end of the log and
just lined the mark up with the cut out corner of my jig.
This jig worked very well and I'm extremely pleased with the results.
Here are a few pictures:
http://gallery.me.com/abramr#100031
On Oct 28, 6:45=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I'm planning to build a desk for my son. =A0I built him a log bed a few
> > years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. =A0I'm not a very
> > skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. =A0I'd like to add vertical
> > logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> > the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. =A0I
> > imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> > miter gauge slot of my table saw. =A0I'll run the log through, rotate i=
t
> > 90 degrees and run it through again. =A0My question is, how do I attach
> > the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? =A0If I use
> > screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. =A0Have any of
> > you done this? =A0Thanks for your help.
>
> Not quite sure what you are trying to do.
>
> But if I was goint to put a long dado groove into a log, I would use a
> router. =A0I would build a jig to run the router on. And I would screw in=
to
> that section of the log where the wood is going to be removed.
He wants to cut a square inside corner into the "log" and fit that to
the assembled desk box - sounds like decoration as opposed to
structual.
"jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
Carbide saw and brass screws?
"jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
Here is a picture of a quick and dirty way to jig up a log to cut out a
90deg wedge. This image assume wasting an inch or two of each end, but the
basic concept might be used to setup a re-usable jig using zip ties or other
clamping fixtures to not waste any of the ends. with a little creativity.
I don't really have the time, to draw out and detail the re-usable jig ideas
I have floating around in my head, but this one minute sketch should
demonstrate the concept.
http://www.yumabassman.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=44
Bob La Londe
"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "jugglerguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:b7655cd5-3b61-4d90-b13d-8187b9e7a258@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
>> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
>> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
>> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
>> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
>> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
>> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
>> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
>> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
>> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
>> you done this? Thanks for your help.
>
> Here is a picture of a quick and dirty way to jig up a log to cut out a
> 90deg wedge. This image assume wasting an inch or two of each end, but
> the basic concept might be used to setup a re-usable jig using zip ties or
> other clamping fixtures to not waste any of the ends. with a little
> creativity. I don't really have the time, to draw out and detail the
> re-usable jig ideas I have floating around in my head, but this one minute
> sketch should demonstrate the concept.
>
> http://www.yumabassman.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=44
>
> Bob La Londe
P.S. If you want to try and cut it real close I would use brass screws into
the log. Won't hurt a carbide saw blade.
jugglerguy wrote:
> I'm planning to build a desk for my son. I built him a log bed a few
> years ago and I'd like to make a desk to match. I'm not a very
> skilled woodworker, so I need some advice. I'd like to add vertical
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk. I
> imagine I'll have to make some sort of a jig that will run in the
> miter gauge slot of my table saw. I'll run the log through, rotate it
> 90 degrees and run it through again. My question is, how do I attach
> the log to this sled that runs in the miter gauge slot? If I use
> screws, I'll run the risk of hitting them with my blade. Have any of
> you done this? Thanks for your help.
I posted a rough drawing of the sled in "alt.binaries,pictures.woodworking."
Deb
"jugglerguy" wrote
> logs to the corners of the desk, but I'm not sure how to make a notch
> the length of the log so it fits onto the corner of the desk.
Have a band saw? On spare log. try this:
Cut the log in half, cut one of the halves in half, glue one of the quarters
to the half.
Done carefully, and depending upon the type of wood, you may be able to get
a glue line that will pass close inspection.
Just another approach ...
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