Hi,
I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop". I need
to rig up some sort of dust extraction. I am trying to get my hands on a s/h
vacuum cleaner, that I could plug into my power tools (jigsaw, sander,
router) and use to clear up sawdust from the floor when woking with hand
tools etc.
Is this a good move, as it seems to be OK.
Cheers,
Sam
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>Hi,
>
>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
Which makes me say _again_ that you need to avoid the big, expensive
tools, and start with stuff that is portable, versatile, and allows
the purchase of more basic startup stuff.
I am not trying to knock your hobby. I see a lot of "Congratulations.
Go for it" posts here, so I hope that people are not feeling that I am
a nay-sayer.
I do honestly feel that using up your limited (???) budget on junk
machines that make you feel god but which are crappy will disappoint
for all the reasons I laid out before.
BTW. 7' * 2'? That's _small_. I actually see safety concerns there.
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:25:53 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
><[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
>......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>
>Which makes me say _again_ that you need to avoid the big, expensive
>tools, and start with stuff that is portable, versatile, and allows
>the purchase of more basic startup stuff.
>
>I am not trying to knock your hobby. I see a lot of "Congratulations.
>Go for it" posts here, so I hope that people are not feeling that I am
>a nay-sayer.
>
>I do honestly feel that using up your limited (???) budget on junk
>machines that make you feel god but which are crappy will disappoint
>for all the reasons I laid out before.
>
>BTW. 7' * 2'? That's _small_. I actually see safety concerns there.
I suspect that the 2' dimension is adjacent to an open space that
*belongs* to a car, but can be used for standing room...
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:16:41 +0200, Phil Hansen
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>
>Got your own garage at age 13? Mansion hidden away somewhere?
>This where you keep your Roller / Troller?
I actually think the guy's _not_ a troll. I did, but now I don't. If
he is, it's the best I have seen!<G> Never gets angry, replies to
posts. Is actually posting on-topic.
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:20:14 -0500, "firstjois"
<[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>I agree with Mike but have no windows in my shop. I did get two filters
>usually used with house's heating system and put one in front of a 20"
>electric fan and put the second behind it. These two filters catch a lot
>of dust. They can b washed off with an outdoor garden hose and I try to
>remember to wash them often. (The more often the better says the guy who
>fixes heaters.) I vaccume the fan now and then, too.
>
>Josie
>
I use a roll-around evaporative cooler... the water in the wet filter
traps the dust and leaves most of it in a water bin when it revolves
around to pick up more water..
It will be replaced ASAP by a blower motor, box and furnace filters
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop". I need
>to rig up some sort of dust extraction. I am trying to get my hands on a s/h
>vacuum cleaner, that I could plug into my power tools (jigsaw, sander,
>router) and use to clear up sawdust from the floor when woking with hand
>tools etc.
>Is this a good move, as it seems to be OK.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Sam
>
it's a good start.
also consider working with the garage door open, with a strong fan at
your back. some tools resist dust extraction... sanders come to
mind... and just getting the dust outdoors is probably your best bet.
You misspelled "workshop" and the spelling police got you.
Too bad they have nothing better to do than discourage others.
As to your question, sure, the shop vac would certainly do for the small
area you are working in, better than nothing.I don't think a dust collection
system is what you need at this point.
Keep up the good work, you will enjoy it more as you get older!
Mark
> ??? I don't get it - I'm 13!
>
>
> "mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> > I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>>
>> Sir-fryed turkey for dinner?
>>
>>
>
>
Thanks!
Sam
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:19:05 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:16:41 +0200, Phil Hansen
> ><[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
> >......and in reply I say!:
> >
> > remove ns from my header address to reply via email
> >
> >>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
> >>
> >>Got your own garage at age 13? Mansion hidden away somewhere?
> >>This where you keep your Roller / Troller?
> >
> >
> >I actually think the guy's _not_ a troll. I did, but now I don't. If
> >he is, it's the best I have seen!<G> Never gets angry, replies to
> >posts. Is actually posting on-topic.
> >
>
>
> Nah, Sam's no troll.
>
> actually, he seems to have the makings of a good .rec'er
??? I don't get it - I'm 13!
"mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>
> Sir-fryed turkey for dinner?
>
>
He was making a joke about you spelling "work" as "wok," but mangled it by
misspelling both stir and fried...
"Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ??? I don't get it - I'm 13!
>
>
> "mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
> >
> > Sir-fryed turkey for dinner?
> >
> >
>
>
"Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> ??? I don't get it - I'm 13!
>
>
> "mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
> >
> > Sir-fryed turkey for dinner?
> >
> >
OK. There are TWO levels of extraction you have to address. The
first are the obvious shavings caused by a power saw, router, drill,
etc. These are usually taken care of on most power tools by
collection bags attached to the tools thenselves or, even better,
vacuum hoses attached to the collection bag holes so that MOST OF the
shavings are sucked into the vacuum as they are made. An old cleaner
will do for this purpose.
The second is the more difficult (and dangerous to health) microscopic
dust that's kicked up by these tools and blown all over the workshop.
It won't all be caught by the above. Sanders cause a lot of this and
(to a lesser degree) routers, power saws, et al. These tiny particles
can hang in the air for hours and only gradually settle and are more
difficult to prevent and/or collect. Good worshops have power
ventilators and extraction systems in the walls or ceilings. You
obviously aren't in a position to do that. Is your workbench near a
window? If it is, you can accomplish quite a bit by having a table
fan pointing out the window and blowing a lot of the dust into the
outdoors. And ALWAYS wear a nose/face mask when doing any work that
will cause this dust.
Hope this helps
FoggyTown
"Cut to shape - pound to fit."
Thu, Nov 25, 2004, 2:27pm (EST-3) [email protected] (Mike=A0Girouard)
says:
<snip> And ALWAYS wear a nose/face mask when doing any work that will
cause this dust.
That's not the little things the dentist wears, but the type with
replaceable filters. They've got inespensive models that work.
I've got a mask, that uses two replaceable filters, a window fan
blowing in, and an open door, plus a broom and dustpan. That's about
all I've got space for, but works.
JOAT
Measure twice, cut once, swear repeatedly.
mp wrote:
>> He was making a joke about you spelling "work" as "wok," but mangled it
>> by misspelling both stir and fried...
>
> Oops! I was being, uh, pleasantly distracted as I was trying to type.
Flog her for making you screw up your spelling. <eg>
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
Got your own garage at age 13? Mansion hidden away somewhere?
This where you keep your Roller / Troller?
Got a 2 speed squirrel cage/motor from a plumber that installed a new
furnace, gratis.
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:41:59 GMT, mac davis <[email protected]>
wrote:
>It will be replaced ASAP by a blower motor, box and furnace filters
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:43:28 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop". I need
>>to rig up some sort of dust extraction. I am trying to get my hands on a s/h
>>vacuum cleaner, that I could plug into my power tools (jigsaw, sander,
>>router) and use to clear up sawdust from the floor when woking with hand
>>tools etc.
>>Is this a good move, as it seems to be OK.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Sam
>>
>
>
>it's a good start.
>also consider working with the garage door open, with a strong fan at
>your back. some tools resist dust extraction... sanders come to
>mind... and just getting the dust outdoors is probably your best bet.
damn, something that I forgot to suggest to sam... your comment about
sanding rolled the fog back!
A sanding box (shallow box with pegboard top and connection for shop
vac) really helps with that fine dust...
I was amazed how well mine worked,,
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 06:19:05 +0800, Old Nick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:16:41 +0200, Phil Hansen
><[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
>......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
>>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>>
>>Got your own garage at age 13? Mansion hidden away somewhere?
>>This where you keep your Roller / Troller?
>
>
>I actually think the guy's _not_ a troll. I did, but now I don't. If
>he is, it's the best I have seen!<G> Never gets angry, replies to
>posts. Is actually posting on-topic.
>
Nah, Sam's no troll.
actually, he seems to have the makings of a good .rec'er
Mike Girouard wrote:
>> "Sam Berlyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> ??? I don't get it - I'm 13!
>>>
>>>
>>> "mp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my
>>>>> "wokshop".
>>>>
>>>> Sir-fryed turkey for dinner?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> OK. There are TWO levels of extraction you have to address. The
>> first are the obvious shavings caused by a power saw, router, drill,
>> etc. These are usually taken care of on most power tools by
>> collection bags attached to the tools thenselves or, even better,
>> vacuum hoses attached to the collection bag holes so that MOST OF the
>> shavings are sucked into the vacuum as they are made. An old cleaner
>> will do for this purpose.
>>
>> The second is the more difficult (and dangerous to health)
>> microscopic
>> dust that's kicked up by these tools and blown all over the workshop.
>> It won't all be caught by the above. Sanders cause a lot of this and
>> (to a lesser degree) routers, power saws, et al. These tiny
>> particles
>> can hang in the air for hours and only gradually settle and are more
>> difficult to prevent and/or collect. Good worshops have power
>> ventilators and extraction systems in the walls or ceilings. You
>> obviously aren't in a position to do that. Is your workbench near a
>> window? If it is, you can accomplish quite a bit by having a table
>> fan pointing out the window and blowing a lot of the dust into the
>> outdoors. And ALWAYS wear a nose/face mask when doing any work that
>> will cause this dust.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> FoggyTown
>> "Cut to shape - pound to fit."
I agree with Mike but have no windows in my shop. I did get two filters
usually used with house's heating system and put one in front of a 20"
electric fan and put the second behind it. These two filters catch a lot
of dust. They can b washed off with an outdoor garden hose and I try to
remember to wash them often. (The more often the better says the guy who
fixes heaters.) I vaccume the fan now and then, too.
Josie
See Alt.Binaries.pictures.woodworking for how I use my garage (title :-
Garage Plan)
"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:21:02 -0000, "Sam Berlyn"
> <[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
> ......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am using the 7 x 2' area at the and of my garage as my "wokshop".
>
> Which makes me say _again_ that you need to avoid the big, expensive
> tools, and start with stuff that is portable, versatile, and allows
> the purchase of more basic startup stuff.
>
> I am not trying to knock your hobby. I see a lot of "Congratulations.
> Go for it" posts here, so I hope that people are not feeling that I am
> a nay-sayer.
>
> I do honestly feel that using up your limited (???) budget on junk
> machines that make you feel god but which are crappy will disappoint
> for all the reasons I laid out before.
>
> BTW. 7' * 2'? That's _small_. I actually see safety concerns there.