Aa

"AAvK"

03/04/2005 11:53 AM

hand saw blade guards, need a source


Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of plastic,
slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell them but they
are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only source was at
WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards.
Any pointers much appreciated!

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Alex
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not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/


This topic has 26 replies

f

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 12:09 PM


AAvK wrote:
> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
plastic,
> slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell
them but they
> are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only
source was at
> WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7
guards.
> Any pointers much appreciated!
>

For small saws try Office Depot or Staples. The spines used for
report covers work well.

For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8" pipe
is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
wood.

Wood is probably better than PVC. The latter will give off a little
hydrogen cloride over time and may damage the saw.

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FF

f

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 1:21 PM


alexy wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8"
pipe
> >is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
> >wood.
>
> I guess that is the special pipe they have in the back, with negative
> wall thickness! <g>
>

At least that should put to rest the popular misconception that pipe is
sized by ID.

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FF

f

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 2:27 PM


alexy wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8"
pipe
> >is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
> >wood.
>
> I guess that is the special pipe they have in the back, with negative
> wall thickness! <g>
>

*I* realize you were making a joke but for the benefit of those
who don't get it:

http://www.harvel.com/pipepvc-sch40-80-dim.asp

> How about cheap garden hose or similar tubing for large saws?

That'd work, it's just a bit clumsier to use something flexible.

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FF

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

04/04/2005 3:22 AM

To cover my handsaw blades, I've been using vinyl undersill - it's for
vinyl siding when you cut the top nailer off & need to finish it off &
stiffen it. It comes in 10' sections & I used to just pick up an extra
scrap off a job. I actually had to go out & buy a piece for $3 or so a
few years back. Still have enough for a couple of saws left.

Not all of it is made exactly the same. Look around a little & try to
get the tighter version, if you can. Some is a little boxy & doesn't
grip the blade quite as well.

Jim

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 8:11 PM

Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
>>plastic, slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to
>>sell them but they are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it
>>and the only source was at WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is
>>like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards. Any pointers much
>>appreciated!
>>
>
>
> Depending on length of saw and how much fiddling you wan to do, you might
> want to take a look at the slide on 'report' binders sold in places like
> Staples. IIRC, they're pretty cheap and operate on the same principle.

Hey, that's a great idea. I hate those crappy
things, but they would work great on a saw.

an

alexy

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 10:30 PM

[email protected] wrote:

>
>alexy wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>> >For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8"
>pipe
>> >is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
>> >wood.
>>
>> I guess that is the special pipe they have in the back, with negative
>> wall thickness! <g>
>>
>
>*I* realize you were making a joke but for the benefit of those
>who don't get it:
>
>http://www.harvel.com/pipepvc-sch40-80-dim.asp

Yes, but did you realize that I was making a joke out of ignorance? I
assumed you reversed the 1/8 and 1/4. Your cite caused me to do a
little more digging to find out what is going on with these pipe
sizes, and I found this explanation of nominal pipe size or iron pipe
size: http://www.keidel.com/mech/pvf/pipe-intro.htm

So, thanks for the education, and apologies for my uninformed but
light-hearted ribbing!

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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:49 PM

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:02:44 -0400, the inscrutable "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> spake:

><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> AAvK wrote:
>>> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
>> plastic,
>>> slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell
>> them but they
>>> are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only
>> source was at
>>> WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7
>> guards.
>>> Any pointers much appreciated!
>>
>> For small saws try Office Depot or Staples. The spines used for
>> report covers work well.
>>
>> For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8" pipe
>> is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
>> wood.
>>
>> Wood is probably better than PVC. The latter will give off a little
>> hydrogen cloride over time and may damage the saw.
>>
>
>'Nother alternative, try slitting some 1/4 or 5/16" vacuum hose.

C'mon, guys. Can you say "saw till"? I knew you could.
http://www.shavings.net/sawtill.html (smaller, houses 16-20 saws)
http://homepage.mac.com/oldmillrat/PhotoAlbum49.html (larger, 48 saws)



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Lobby Dosser

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 7:02 PM

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
> plastic, slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to
> sell them but they are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it
> and the only source was at WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is
> like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards. Any pointers much
> appreciated!
>

Depending on length of saw and how much fiddling you wan to do, you might
want to take a look at the slide on 'report' binders sold in places like
Staples. IIRC, they're pretty cheap and operate on the same principle.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 4:31 PM

I like big. Easy to handle, hard to loose.

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:cc_3e.52754$AN1.2579@fed1read03...
>
> > Garden hose, split down the middle.
> >
> >
> Kinda massive for just a basic hand saw I think...? Yoogly too!
>
> --
> Alex
> cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
> not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
>
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:10 PM

Garden hose, split down the middle.

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:pXW3e.52727$AN1.6759@fed1read03...
>
> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of plastic,
> slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell them but
they
> are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only source was
at
> WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7
guards.
> Any pointers much appreciated!
>
> --
> Alex
> cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
> not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
>
>

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 10:56 PM

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> OK guys I went ahead and bought into those expensive ones,
> thicker plastic and made for the job exactly. Donwanna deal
> with going crazy over the solution of saving $$$ and then
> doing the work it takes... they should last and it was easier
> just to order them. My 1st order with HH so I'll see how
> they perform too. Thanks greatly for all the humor, I love
> every one of you guys. I really do... everyone is a brother.
>

STOP PRESS!! Vinyl Glazing Channel/Spline at the Borg?

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 4:08 PM


> STOP PRESS!! Vinyl Glazing Channel/Spline at the Borg?


Spline at the borg? Vinyl glazing channel? That the same idea as those
plastic binders rib things at staples? Only longer?

--
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cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:34 PM


OK guys I went ahead and bought into those expensive ones,
thicker plastic and made for the job exactly. Donwanna deal
with going crazy over the solution of saving $$$ and then
doing the work it takes... they should last and it was easier
just to order them. My 1st order with HH so I'll see how
they perform too. Thanks greatly for all the humor, I love
every one of you guys. I really do... everyone is a brother.

--
Alex
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:18 PM

Lobby Dosser <[email protected]> wrote in
news:C5X3e.1712$%b1.1627@trnddc08:

> "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
>> plastic, slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to
>> sell them but they are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it
>> and the only source was at WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is
>> like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards. Any pointers much
>> appreciated!
>>
>
> Depending on length of saw and how much fiddling you wan to do, you
> might want to take a look at the slide on 'report' binders sold in
> places like Staples. IIRC, they're pretty cheap and operate on the
> same principle.
>

The sharpening service I use, Bay Area Carbide, in Concord, CA, uses a
sliced plastic tubing to cover the teeth of the circular blades after
sharpening. They also have a slide/clip cover for the hand saws they did
for me. So next time you have a sawblade sharpened, or buy a new blade, or
router/shaper bits, or similar, ask the counter person of you can buy a
couple of extras. Turns out I couldn't buy any, but they gave me a few.
After three or four years, they recognize me a little.

Good folks, mentioned by name in response to Morris' micro-rant in an
earlier post.

Patriarch

NP

Nate Perkins

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

07/04/2005 3:30 AM

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:pXW3e.52727$AN1.6759@fed1read03:

>
> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
> plastic, slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to
> sell them but they are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it
> and the only source was at WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is
> like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards. Any pointers much
> appreciated!
>

On my little joinery handsaws I just saw a deep slot into a strip of scrap.
The strip then slides over to protect the teeth.

On my larger panel saw, I hang it with the teeth bare.

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

04/04/2005 12:04 AM

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> STOP PRESS!! Vinyl Glazing Channel/Spline at the Borg?
>
>
> Spline at the borg? Vinyl glazing channel? That the same idea as those
> plastic binders rib things at staples? Only longer?
>

Yes. See also the post about the 8' lengths of plastic channel for
decorative panels.

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:36 PM


> Garden hose, split down the middle.
>
>
Kinda massive for just a basic hand saw I think...? Yoogly too!

--
Alex
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 4:02 PM

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> AAvK wrote:
>> Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of
> plastic,
>> slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell
> them but they
>> are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only
> source was at
>> WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7
> guards.
>> Any pointers much appreciated!
>>
>
> For small saws try Office Depot or Staples. The spines used for
> report covers work well.
>
> For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8" pipe
> is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
> wood.
>
> Wood is probably better than PVC. The latter will give off a little
> hydrogen cloride over time and may damage the saw.
>

'Nother alternative, try slitting some 1/4 or 5/16" vacuum hose.

Nahmie

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 1:34 PM


> I guess that is the special pipe they have in the back, with negative
> wall thickness! <g>
>
> How about cheap garden hose or similar tubing for large saws?
> --
> Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.


For that thought I then thought "why not rubber medical tubing" for
hand saws? ...I think making that slice would be something to think
about, to do it evenly.

--
Alex
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 11:38 PM

In article <pXW3e.52727$AN1.6759@fed1read03>, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Anyone know a good source of cheap hand saw blade guards made of plastic,
>slide-ons for covering the teeth? I think Lee Valley used to sell them but they
>are no longer listed that I can find. I DAYS-ed it and the only source was at
>WWS, $3.99 @27" each and that is like..."whopping" for all I need, 7 guards.
>Any pointers much appreciated!

I got a bunch of 'em at Sears, lo these many years ago. Don't know if they
still have them, though...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

an

alexy

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

04/04/2005 12:57 AM

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> Garden hose, split down the middle.
>>
>>
>Kinda massive for just a basic hand saw I think...?
True. But just cut it to length and throw away the remaining 73'6"!
<g>

> Yoogly too!
No argument there. But there is lots of clear pliable plastic (isn't
that redundant?) tubing that would work well.
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Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

12/04/2005 1:58 AM


> Ordered on the 3rd, got them on the 12th.

OOPS! 11th... sorry.

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not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 11:56 AM


Sorry not "WWS" (woodworker's supply)...I meant highland-hardware.

--
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not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

an

alexy

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

03/04/2005 3:47 PM

[email protected] wrote:


>For larger saws slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find (1/8" pipe
>is just under 1/4" ID) should work or you can make your own out of
>wood.

I guess that is the special pipe they have in the back, with negative
wall thickness! <g>

How about cheap garden hose or similar tubing for large saws?
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

05/04/2005 2:23 PM

On 3 Apr 2005 12:09:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

> slitting the smallest PVC pipe you can find

Totally OT, but "slitting pipe" made me think of this
http://www.monochrom.at/krabbe/index-eng.htm

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 03/04/2005 11:53 AM

12/04/2005 1:56 AM


BTW all, Highland hardware delivered the guards nicely but pretty slowly!
Ordered on the 3rd, got them on the 12th. They are thick and soft, bendy,
easy to cut to size (did it with a chisel), and a bit hard and slow to slide on.
Not supremely worth it for the munee.

--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/


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