There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze.
But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you have
these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can have 4
panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is 13'x16', so
on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to 4', leaving
12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels that slide
over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as much
as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 10:05:01 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> The wife brought up the porch swing idea, so it's under consideration.
> She already has outdoor furniture picked out... they always seem to have
> something decorated before it's actually built. :-)
>
> Of course, I already have the speakers and flat-screen TV location in my
> mind.
One other possible consideration, if your place is like mine, mosquito control. Even in winter, we have bouts with mosquitoes. Walmart, HD, Lowes and other outlets have Yard Guard (or similar) mosquito spray.
I shoot 1/4 second spritz, here and there, in dark places, nooks and crannies, etc., to fend off/drive off those pesky critters. It doesn't take much spraying, just some short spritz, in their general hiding places.
The Yard Guard products are sold seasonally at some of the outlets, so they are not always available year 'round. If need be, you might want to get a couple of extra cans, for times the stores aren't offering the product, until next spring/summer time.
I often spritz my shop, also, before starting work, when out there late in the evenings.
The Yard Guard products are effective for a few/several hours, before needing spritzing, again, in those scenarios.
Very rarely, maybe once a year, do I have issues with wasps & hornets on the patios.
Sonny
On 8/2/2018 6:31 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze. But
> I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>
> This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
> finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
> bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
> Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
>
> They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
> Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you have
> these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can have 4
> panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is 13'x16', so
> on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to 4', leaving
> 12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels that slide
> over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
>
> I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
> decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
> roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
>
> Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
> I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
> cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as much
> as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
>
>
I have been thinking of doing something like that, again, for about 7
years. Looks great so far!
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 7:31:37 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze.
> But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>
> This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
> finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
> bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
> Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
>
> They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
> Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you have
> these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can have 4
> panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is 13'x16', so
> on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to 4', leaving
> 12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels that slide
> over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
>
> I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
> decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
> roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
>
> Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
> I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
> cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as much
> as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
>
>
Love the cedar!
How thick is that slab?
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 9:04:37 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>=20
> 1st... I was totally expecting a reply from "Cedar" Sonny! :-)
> 2nd... Yes, we love the Crepe Myrtles and so do all the birds and=20
> squirrels. Our cat loves to climb in them... so much that I added some=
=20
> ramps so he can run up and down easier. :-)
>=20
For a moment, other than my screen name, I wondered if I was that predictab=
le.
It was good to hear of a project in progress. Lately, there hadn't been a=
ny posts of ongoing work. Folks must be on vacation, busy with back to sc=
hool stuff and/or summer's heated lazy days for idleness, hence, no time fo=
r projects.
For about 2-3 weeks, I've been "away", so not much work from here. Mom ha=
d a bout with a UT infection and we've been double teaming her care, since =
she's been discharged from the hospital. She's improving, greatly, and is=
almost back to her normal elderly self, again, so we can relax, a bit, aga=
in.
Lately, a friend asked if I'd build and upholster (tufted) wall panels (bed=
headboard-like). The panels are to wrap around 3 walls in her dance stud=
io. A wrap-around set of benches will complement the panels.... I'm not ma=
king or upholstering the benches. I should be, hoping to be, finished with=
the panels by mid next week.
A Korean friend saw my cedar table top, sitting idle since it was built.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/27134564546/in/dateposted-public=
/
She asked me to make it into a tea table, 14" high, so I've made short legs=
. I might will install the legs today, if I can finish the prep work. Ma=
ybe I'll have some presentable pics by this evening.
Sonny
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>=20
> I added a couple more pictures of one half of the 4/4 T&G Poplar roof=20
> decking installed.
> We stained the underside to match the Cedar and I have to say it's=20
> pretty dead on.
> It looks great from underneath.
>=20
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
>=20
Looking better and better each time. Seems you worked on the western side=
..... smart! If as here, the afternoon sun really beats down, making the h=
igh humidity even worse. Have a porch swing in mind? I can already sens=
e having a relaxing swing and/or a couple of rockers under that canopy.
Sonny
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:31:37 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and=20
> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht=20
> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze.=20
> But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
Looking good....
And it's nice to see Crepe Myrtles that haven't been butchered, by pruning =
them 4'-5' off the ground. I'm sure they add to your lawn's relaxing ambi=
ance. Next year, maybe you can add a hobbit/rabbit hole house under one o=
f those crepe myrtles, to accent the hanging plants, etal, decor.
Sonny
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 9:48:55 AM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> > A Korean friend saw my cedar table top, sitting idle since it was
> > built.=20
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/27134564546/in/dateposted-pu=
blic/
> >She asked me to make it into a tea table, 14" high, so I've made short l=
egs. I might will install the legs today, if I can finish the prep work. =
Maybe I'll=20
> > have some presentable pics by this evening.
> >=20
> > Sonny
> >=20
>=20
> That's a gorgeous top. What finish did you use?
>=20
ER cedar is resinous. Often times, especially around knots and denser woo=
d, the resin leaches/oozes out, little by little, over time. To help prev=
ent this leaching, shellac is used as a blocker, similarly as Kiltz or othe=
r shellac primers are used. I think I used shellac as a first coating, th=
en sprayed top coats of lacquer.
The resin, in ER cedar, moves/flows, somewhat like mercury in a thermometer=
, when temps fluctuate. The short legs are (somewhat) carved from cedar s=
tump/log stock, some wood denseness varies within each leg. They have bee=
n in the house for a few days, acclimating to AC, so hopefully, the resin m=
ovement will be better/more limited, in/for their long term use.
Sonny
On 8/6/2018 10:04 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 8/6/18 8:24 PM, Sonny wrote:
>> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>>>
[snip]
> The wife brought up the porch swing idea, so it's under consideration.
> She already has outdoor furniture picked out... they always seem to have
> something decorated before it's actually built. :-)
>
> Of course, I already have the speakers and flat-screen TV location in my
> mind.
A man's got to have his priorities straight. You do!
Looks great!
On 8/2/18 8:58 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 6:31:37 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening
>> and watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some
>> yacht rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its
>> breeze. But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>
> Looking good....
>
> And it's nice to see Crepe Myrtles that haven't been butchered, by
> pruning them 4'-5' off the ground. I'm sure they add to your lawn's
> relaxing ambiance. Next year, maybe you can add a hobbit/rabbit
> hole house under one of those crepe myrtles, to accent the hanging
> plants, etal, decor.
>
> Sonny
>
1st... I was totally expecting a reply from "Cedar" Sonny! :-)
2nd... Yes, we love the Crepe Myrtles and so do all the birds and
squirrels. Our cat loves to climb in them... so much that I added some
ramps so he can run up and down easier. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/2/18 9:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 7:31:37 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
>> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
>> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
>> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze.
>> But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>>
>> This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
>> finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
>> bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
>> Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
>>
>> They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
>> Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you have
>> these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can have 4
>> panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is 13'x16', so
>> on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to 4', leaving
>> 12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels that slide
>> over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
>>
>> I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
>> decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
>> roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
>>
>> Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
>> I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
>> cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as much
>> as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
>>
>>
>
> Love the cedar!
>
> How thick is that slab?
>
Ha! Everybody asks that. :-)
It's only 4" but has the skirts down the sides. The middle section is
packed fill.
It's called a monolithic slab. It's designed to incorporate the
foundation/footings into the slab in one pour. Since the posts are the
the load bearing foundation, the slab/skirt doesn't need to support and
weight of the structure.
However, it probably could since they made the skirt 8" wide just in
case the county code inspector was clueless.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/3/18 7:48 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/2/2018 6:31 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
>> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
>> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze.
>> But I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>>
>> This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
>> finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
>> bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
>> Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
>>
>> They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
>> Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you
>> have these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can
>> have 4 panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is
>> 13'x16', so on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to
>> 4', leaving 12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels
>> that slide over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
>>
>> I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
>> decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
>> roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
>>
>> Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
>> I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
>> cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as
>> much as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
>>
>>
>
> I have been thinking of doing something like that, again, for about 7
> years.  Looks great so far!
Thanks. I'm really looking forward to it.
So is our cat. Maybe he'll stop waking us up at 4:30am to go out, if he
can hng out on this thing all night. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/3/18 8:44 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 9:04:37 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>> 1st... I was totally expecting a reply from "Cedar" Sonny! :-)
>> 2nd... Yes, we love the Crepe Myrtles and so do all the birds and
>> squirrels. Our cat loves to climb in them... so much that I added
>> some ramps so he can run up and down easier. :-)
>>
>
> For a moment, other than my screen name, I wondered if I was that
> predictable.
>
> It was good to hear of a project in progress. Lately, there hadn't
> been any posts of ongoing work. Folks must be on vacation, busy
> with back to school stuff and/or summer's heated lazy days for
> idleness, hence, no time for projects.
>
> For about 2-3 weeks, I've been "away", so not much work from here.
> Mom had a bout with a UT infection and we've been double teaming her
> care, since she's been discharged from the hospital. She's
> improving, greatly, and is almost back to her normal elderly self,
> again, so we can relax, a bit, again.
>
> Lately, a friend asked if I'd build and upholster (tufted) wall
> panels (bed headboard-like). The panels are to wrap around 3 walls
> in her dance studio. A wrap-around set of benches will complement
> the panels.... I'm not making or upholstering the benches. I should
> be, hoping to be, finished with the panels by mid next week.
>
> A Korean friend saw my cedar table top, sitting idle since it was
> built.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/27134564546/in/dateposted-public/
>She asked me to make it into a tea table, 14" high, so I've made short legs. I might will install the legs today, if I can finish the prep work. Maybe I'll
> have some presentable pics by this evening.
>
> Sonny
>
That's a gorgeous top. What finish did you use?
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/2/18 6:31 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> There's nothing better than sitting outside on a beautiful evening and
> watching the wildlife, having a couple beers, listening to some yacht
> rock, or just watching a summer rain storm as you sit in its breeze. But
> I could really do without the mosquitoes. :-)
>
> This is a project we've been wanting to do for quite a while and I
> finally set aside some time to do it. It will have full screens from
> bottom to top and a really cool window system called Magic Wall by
> Solara, a company from Florida that started out making hurricane panels.
>
> They don't have a lot of pictures, but I saw their system at the
> Nashville builders convention and it's really cool. Basically, you have
> these glass panels on tracks that slide open and closed. You can have 4
> panels, that will slide into one. In my case, the patio is 13'x16', so
> on 2 sides, I will have four 4' panels that slide over to 4', leaving
> 12' of full screen. On the end, there will be four panels that slide
> over to 3', leaving 9' of full screen.
>
> I decided to do the rafter framing in cedar and have solid, T&G roof
> decking to be exposed from the underneath. The tie-in to the existing
> roof with be plain old pine lumber, since it won't be seen.
>
> Here's the progress so far, with all the cedar framing.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
> I have to say this cedar is a joy to work with. Besides the smell, it
> cuts wonderfully, is super light weight, and doesn't warp nearly as much
> as SYP. Then there's the looks. :-)
>
>
I added a couple more pictures of one half of the 4/4 T&G Poplar roof
decking installed.
We stained the underside to match the Cedar and I have to say it's
pretty dead on.
It looks great from underneath.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/6/18 8:24 PM, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 7:08:39 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>>
>> I added a couple more pictures of one half of the 4/4 T&G Poplar
>> roof decking installed. We stained the underside to match the Cedar
>> and I have to say it's pretty dead on. It looks great from
>> underneath.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nHLDkWJwdvgXBYS26
>>
>
> Looking better and better each time. Seems you worked on the
> western side..... smart! If as here, the afternoon sun really beats
> down, making the high humidity even worse. Have a porch swing in
> mind? I can already sense having a relaxing swing and/or a couple
> of rockers under that canopy.
>
> Sonny
>
That is the south side but it was late afternoon, so the sun was hitting
it from the west.
We have 80ft+ Poplars on the south property line that provide a lot of
shade, plus the giant Crepe Myrtles. There aren't too many hours of
direct sunlight.
My Sharn is right next to those Poplars so it actually stays very
reasonable inside it.
The wife brought up the porch swing idea, so it's under consideration.
She already has outdoor furniture picked out... they always seem to have
something decorated before it's actually built. :-)
Of course, I already have the speakers and flat-screen TV location in my
mind.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 8/7/18 7:28 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 10:05:01 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>>
>> The wife brought up the porch swing idea, so it's under
>> consideration. She already has outdoor furniture picked out... they
>> always seem to have something decorated before it's actually built.
>> :-)
>>
>> Of course, I already have the speakers and flat-screen TV location
>> in my mind.
>
> One other possible consideration, if your place is like mine,
> mosquito control. Even in winter, we have bouts with mosquitoes.
> Walmart, HD, Lowes and other outlets have Yard Guard (or similar)
> mosquito spray.
>
> I shoot 1/4 second spritz, here and there, in dark places, nooks and
> crannies, etc., to fend off/drive off those pesky critters. It
> doesn't take much spraying, just some short spritz, in their general
> hiding places.
>
> The Yard Guard products are sold seasonally at some of the outlets,
> so they are not always available year 'round. If need be, you might
> want to get a couple of extra cans, for times the stores aren't
> offering the product, until next spring/summer time.
>
> I often spritz my shop, also, before starting work, when out there
> late in the evenings.
>
> The Yard Guard products are effective for a few/several hours, before
> needing spritzing, again, in those scenarios.
>
> Very rarely, maybe once a year, do I have issues with wasps & hornets
> on the patios.
>
> Sonny
>
This will be fully screened.
One of the main reasons we're building it is mosquitoes. They are very
bad around here. About the only thing that works is to have the pest
guys come and spray the entire yard. But we won't do that because it
kills about every other insect, too, including pollinators.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com