I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
G1037?
Cheers
[email protected] wrote:
> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> G1037?
>
> Cheers
Based on the models you mentioned I'm probably as qualified to answer as
anyone; I own the Grizzly G0453 and my buddy owns the Jet JPM-13CS (CS
== closed stand). And from what I can see the Grizzly G1037 is pretty
much identical to the Jet JPM-13...
I think my buddy's opinion of the Jet is mixed; it does the job ok, but
it's nothing to get excited about. He considers the molder feature to
be a waste; he's never found any need for it, especially after looking
into the cost of the cutters (none of which come with the machine). Nor
is it blessed with an overabundance of power, but I don't recall him
complaining about that. I don't know how well the dust collection
works, but I haven't heard him complain about that either. I can find
out more from him if you're interested.
I haven't had my Grizzly G0453 very long, but so far I've been very
pleased. Make no mistake though; this is a serious beast - it weighs
around 650 pounds, and that's heavier than my Unisaur! If you look at
Jet's website they also make a model very similar to the Grizzly (the
JWP-15DX), but from what I can tell (at a glance) the Grizzly sports
slightly better features; the built-in mobile base for one, and all
cast-iron tables for another. The Grizzly was perfectly adjusted right
off the pallet, and all I had to do was clean off all the shipping
grease (THAT was a pain) and attach a power plug and it was making
snipe-free cuts in no time. Two-speed operation for allows for both
fast and fine-finish cuts, and the dust collection feature works flawlessly.
Also, regarding the Grizzly G1037 and the nearly identical Jet JPM-13;
both planers weight just over 200 pounds and have 1-1/2HP motors. I
don't know what the cost of the Jet is, but you'll notice the Grizzly
G1037 is $895, whereas the 3HP G0453 is only $55 more at $950... And
Grizzly is still offering free shipping on that machine right now.
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On Mar 27, 7:30 am, "StephenM" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > My 733 doesn't owe me anything.
>
> > Only problem was that eventually couldn't set planer to less than 1".
>
> > Called DeWalt tech service, they talked me thru the fix which was to
> > remove a washer on each guide post.
>
> Lew, could you expand on that. The one issue I have with my 733 is that
> adjusting the height (thickness) is upward in the low range take an
> unreasonable amount of torque. Is that the symptom you encountered?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
Lew's right about Steve being right about the 733's performance.
Mine's quite used, and all I've really done to it is knife changes.
Steve, apply a little lubricant to the screws where they pass through
the planer head assembly. Works for me. Tom
Absolutely not. Regular "lifetime warranty" Craftsman screwdrivers.
> Regarding your stripped out screws... you're not using one of those
> new cordless impact drivers to assemble/disassemble your planer, are
> you? I have a buddy that used an 18v Rigid on some of his tools, and
> he kept stripping out the smaller screws - those drivers can put out a
> lot of torque!
Leon wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
>> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
>> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
>> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
>> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
>> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
>> G1037?
>>
>> Cheers
>
> If the DeWalt is not HD enough for you I seriously doubt you will consider
> any of the portables HD either. The stationary planers, 15: range an up
> typically use the same design year after year. They are thickness planers
> and don't promise a baby's but finish but do what they are suppose to do. I
> personally have a Delta X5 series 15" stationary planer.
How do you like that Delta, Leon? Isn't that the one with the
top-mounted motor and stationary table? My Dad has the Grizzly version
of that planer, and I was considering the same model, but by the time I
was ready to buy Grizzly was no longer carrying it. My Dad seems to
have a bit of an issue with its dust collection efficiency, but that may
not be the fault of the planer.
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"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You know.. I can't remember exactly when I got
> mine, but I thought it was along about 2002 but
> I haven't had any problems other than the cheesy
> plastic DC connection that keeps breaking at the
> bolt tabs.
>
> It very clearly says "Made in USA" on the cabinet.
>
> The motor is from somewhere else.
OK you made me get up and look.
I ordered and purchased this planer in Houston Jan 2, 2006.
The Stand, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in Taiwan
The Planer, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in China
The Motor, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in China
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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So I'm wondering now whether it would be better just to get another
consumer-grade planer and toss it in a few years like the DeWalt, and
start all over? I have a friend that has an ancient Belsaw stationary
planer that he picked up for a song and it produces a glass like
finish, so I don't know. Just frustrated at this point and my wife
doesn't understand why a $375 planer didn't last forever.
Don't be intoxicated by the glass like finish, first time you get a nick in
a knife and you are back to sanding. It is a temporary condition basically.
A thickness planer is not intended to be a finished product machine, it is a
thicknesser.
Right. What I was getting at was that the finish rarely, if ever had
snipe in it. And if it did, it was because I needed to adjust the
tables.
> Don't be intoxicated by the glass like finish, first time you get a nick =
in
> a knife and you are back to sanding. =A0It is a temporary condition basic=
ally.
> A thickness planer is not intended to be a finished product machine, it i=
s a
> thicknesser.
Depends on what part of the planer you are
talking about.
Less than 5 years ago, everything but the
motor was made here.
That has almost certainly changed.
Go here for several excellent views of the
machine including cutter shots.
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17887
Sonny wrote:
> Leon,
>
> Is the Delta X5 made in the USA or overseas? I don't have a nearby
> retailer to, conveniently, go view one. Seems the average price is
> about $1400.
>
> Thanks.
> Sonny
The Delta is heavy duty and chain driven. It will
plane all day long and produce a fairly decent finish.
It has a weird dust collection outlet but that can
be handled with a reducer.
It ain't pretty but it's strong and reliable.
[email protected] wrote:
> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> G1037?
>
> Cheers
On Mar 26, 8:50=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I'm wondering now whether it would be better just to get another
> consumer-grade planer and toss it in a few years like the DeWalt, and
> start all over? =A0I have a friend that has an ancient Belsaw stationary
> planer that he picked up for a song and it produces a glass like
> finish, so I don't know. =A0Just frustrated at this point and my wife
> doesn't understand why a $375 planer didn't last forever.
If you want to go this route, I've had the Delta 22-580 for about 4
years - the only problem I've had is the depth scale is now out of
whack. Honestly, beyond the first few times I used the planer, I
haven't looked at the scale, so that's not a big issue for me. I've
run probably 800 - 1000 feet of ash, along with various other
hardwoods through it and sharp blades are the only thing it's ever
needed. I'd recommend this planer to anyone looking in the 'better
quality consumer' range.
Regarding your stripped out screws... you're not using one of those
new cordless impact drivers to assemble/disassemble your planer, are
you? I have a buddy that used an 18v Rigid on some of his tools, and
he kept stripping out the smaller screws - those drivers can put out a
lot of torque!
"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Depends on what part of the planer you are
> talking about.
>
> Less than 5 years ago, everything but the
> motor was made here.
Well mine is 3 years old. I figured mine was built over there because the
paint is not sticking to the iron and most likely because the machine oil
was not removed properly.
>
> That has almost certainly changed.
>
> Go here for several excellent views of the
> machine including cutter shots.
>
>
> http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17887
[email protected] wrote:
> So I'm wondering now whether it would be better just to get another
> consumer-grade planer and toss it in a few years like the DeWalt, and
> start all over? I have a friend that has an ancient Belsaw stationary
> planer that he picked up for a song and it produces a glass like
> finish, so I don't know. Just frustrated at this point and my wife
> doesn't understand why a $375 planer didn't last forever.
If you're going to go that route, you might try searching craigslist or
eBay for a used (they're no longer being manufactured) Delta 22-540.
This was Delta's entry level planer for quite a few years and are fairly
simplistic; 12" width, no dust collection port, and no head lock for
snipe control. However, they were all-metal construction and built like
a tank, and my understanding is that they last "forever". I had one
that was about 10 years old, and I just sold it when I bought the new
Grizzly a month or so ago. It was loud and messy and unrefined and it
sniped pretty badly sometimes, but it was certainly reliable. If I
wasn't strapped for space I probably would have kept it...
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FWIW, I got my 733 in 2001 and it has seen "thousands" of bf. I don't expect
it to last forever but it has served me well.
I think you got a lemon, and I think that you *can/should* expect to put a
couple thousand BF though a lunchbox planer.
-Steve
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I guess I should have left the "heavy duty" out. What I meant was it
should last longer than a few hundred board feet before having to need
repair (like mine DW733). "Heavy duty" as in having screws or bolts
that don't strip the first time you try to remove them. The dollar is
the bottom line anymore though and good nuts, bolts, screws, and
bushings are heavy, and cost. Obviously these type planers were not
meant to last (or be worked on). What amazes me was that it actually
did the job quite well (for the short time it worked).
On Mar 26, 4:36 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> > heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> > a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> > several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> > craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> > make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> > G1037?
>
> > Cheers
>
> If the DeWalt is not HD enough for you I seriously doubt you will consider
> any of the portables HD either. The stationary planers, 15: range an up
> typically use the same design year after year. They are thickness planers
> and don't promise a baby's but finish but do what they are suppose to do.
> I
> personally have a Delta X5 series 15" stationary planer.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> I think my buddy's opinion of the Jet is mixed; it does the job ok, but
> it's nothing to get excited about. He considers the molder feature to be
> a waste; he's never found any need for it, especially after looking into
> the cost of the cutters (none of which come with the machine). Nor is it
> blessed with an overabundance of power, but I don't recall him
> complaining about that. I don't know how well the dust collection works,
> but I haven't heard him complain about that either. I can find out more
> from him if you're interested.
I've made a lot of molding in mine. I guess if you have a need for custom
molding you will use it , otherwise...
The planer tends to snipe the ends of the boards, othewise no complaints.
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"Sonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon,
>
> Is the Delta X5 made in the USA or overseas? I don't have a nearby
> retailer to, conveniently, go view one. Seems the average price is
> about $1400.
>
> Thanks.
> Sonny
Like about 89% of the big machinery, overseas, IIRC. I got mine for about
$1100 3 years ago. IMHO one big advantage that the Delta has is that on
mine the mobile base and the fold away anti-pinch roller in feed and out
feed extension tables were included.
"tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Lew's right about Steve being right about the 733's performance.
> Mine's quite used, and all I've really done to it is knife changes.
> Steve, apply a little lubricant to the screws where they pass through
> the planer head assembly. Works for me. Tom
I concur that Tom is right about Lew being right about Steve being right
about the 733'2 performance. :~)
I think that the one I got was about the time
that Delta was closing a number of plants.
The Mississippi plant was where a number of
larger machines were built and I think that
the last of the Unisaws built in the USA came
from there.
A good bit of the stuff is now made in Tennessee
at the older Porter Cable plant.
There is a retired Delta guy on this list that
surfaces from time to time and he may be able
to give us a better place/time line of when
things happened.
I have NO idea of current production.
Leon wrote:
> OK you made me get up and look.
>
> I ordered and purchased this planer in Houston Jan 2, 2006.
>
>
> The Stand, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in Taiwan
> The Planer, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in China
> The Motor, Delta, Jackson, Tennessee, Made in China
>
>
Leon wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> How do you like that Delta, Leon? Isn't that the one with the top-mounted
>> motor and stationary table? My Dad has the Grizzly version of that
>> planer, and I was considering the same model, but by the time I was ready
>> to buy Grizzly was no longer carrying it. My Dad seems to have a bit of
>> an issue with its dust collection efficiency, but that may not be the
>> fault of the planer.
>
>
> Yes it is a top mounted motor model. I am happy with it and have no
> complaints, yet. I might have a complaint when it is time to sharpen the
> blades. IIRC the motor will be in the way.
Yeah, I can see that being an issue. I had to disassemble the topside
of my Grizzly G0453 to clean up all that damn shipping grease, and
that's when I discovered that access to the knives is a snap.
> I have mine hooked up to a 4",
> 20' clear flexible hose connected to a 1100 cfm dust collector. Hardly a
> shaving escapes. Dust collection on this particular planer is superior.
> the planer actually had a 5" port and I had to adapt it down to 4".
I don't know if the Grizzly had a 5" dust port, but I think my Dad is
also running a 4" line to his 1200cfm collector. As I recall, he said
it collects fine when he's planing hardwood, but whenever he runs any
kind of pine through it that's when it clogs up inside the dust chute.
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I am obviously am lucky. My 733 other than a motor brush change and 3
(6)sets of knives has gone through over 500 board feet of red oak and black
walnut.I do keep the cuts light though.
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Great information, thanks. I wondered about the molder part of the
Jet.
On Mar 26, 6:02 pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> > heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> > a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> > several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> > craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> > make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> > G1037?
>
> > Cheers
>
> Based on the models you mentioned I'm probably as qualified to answer as
> anyone; I own the Grizzly G0453 and my buddy owns the Jet JPM-13CS (CS
> == closed stand). And from what I can see the Grizzly G1037 is pretty
> much identical to the Jet JPM-13...
>
> I think my buddy's opinion of the Jet is mixed; it does the job ok, but
> it's nothing to get excited about. He considers the molder feature to
> be a waste; he's never found any need for it, especially after looking
> into the cost of the cutters (none of which come with the machine). Nor
> is it blessed with an overabundance of power, but I don't recall him
> complaining about that. I don't know how well the dust collection
> works, but I haven't heard him complain about that either. I can find
> out more from him if you're interested.
>
> I haven't had my Grizzly G0453 very long, but so far I've been very
> pleased. Make no mistake though; this is a serious beast - it weighs
> around 650 pounds, and that's heavier than my Unisaur! If you look at
> Jet's website they also make a model very similar to the Grizzly (the
> JWP-15DX), but from what I can tell (at a glance) the Grizzly sports
> slightly better features; the built-in mobile base for one, and all
> cast-iron tables for another. The Grizzly was perfectly adjusted right
> off the pallet, and all I had to do was clean off all the shipping
> grease (THAT was a pain) and attach a power plug and it was making
> snipe-free cuts in no time. Two-speed operation for allows for both
> fast and fine-finish cuts, and the dust collection feature works
> flawlessly.
>
> Also, regarding the Grizzly G1037 and the nearly identical Jet JPM-13;
> both planers weight just over 200 pounds and have 1-1/2HP motors. I
> don't know what the cost of the Jet is, but you'll notice the Grizzly
> G1037 is $895, whereas the 3HP G0453 is only $55 more at $950... And
> Grizzly is still offering free shipping on that machine right now.
>
> --
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I don't know where you are located but I saw this one on Craigslist
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/tls/1092970835.html
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in news:71e5634f-1198-4d2b-
[email protected]:
> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> G1037?
>
> Cheers
I guess I should have left the "heavy duty" out. What I meant was it
should last longer than a few hundred board feet before having to need
repair (like mine DW733). "Heavy duty" as in having screws or bolts
that don't strip the first time you try to remove them. The dollar is
the bottom line anymore though and good nuts, bolts, screws, and
bushings are heavy, and cost. Obviously these type planers were not
meant to last (or be worked on). What amazes me was that it actually
did the job quite well (for the short time it worked).
On Mar 26, 4:36=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> > heavy duty, longer lasting. =A0Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, bu=
t
> > a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> > several years. =A0Any recommendations? =A0I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> > craigslisting for $500. =A0Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> > make the drive. =A0What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> > G1037?
>
> > Cheers
>
> If the DeWalt is not HD enough for you I seriously doubt you will conside=
r
> any of the portables HD either. =A0The stationary planers, 15: range an u=
p
> typically use the same design year after year. =A0They are thickness plan=
ers
> and don't promise a baby's but finish but do what they are suppose to do.=
=A0I
> personally have a Delta X5 series 15" stationary planer.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
>> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
>> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
>> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
>> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
>> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
>> G1037?
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Based on the models you mentioned I'm probably as qualified to answer as
> anyone; I own the Grizzly G0453 and my buddy owns the Jet JPM-13CS (CS ==
> closed stand). And from what I can see the Grizzly G1037 is pretty much
> identical to the Jet JPM-13...
>
> I think my buddy's opinion of the Jet is mixed; it does the job ok, but
> it's nothing to get excited about. He considers the molder feature to be
> a waste; he's never found any need for it, especially after looking into
> the cost of the cutters (none of which come with the machine). Nor is it
> blessed with an overabundance of power, but I don't recall him complaining
> about that. I don't know how well the dust collection works, but I
> haven't heard him complain about that either. I can find out more from
> him if you're interested.
>
> I haven't had my Grizzly G0453 very long, but so far I've been very
> pleased. Make no mistake though; this is a serious beast - it weighs
> around 650 pounds, and that's heavier than my Unisaur! If you look at
> Jet's website they also make a model very similar to the Grizzly (the
> JWP-15DX), but from what I can tell (at a glance) the Grizzly sports
> slightly better features; the built-in mobile base for one, and all
> cast-iron tables for another. The Grizzly was perfectly adjusted right
> off the pallet, and all I had to do was clean off all the shipping grease
> (THAT was a pain) and attach a power plug and it was making snipe-free
> cuts in no time. Two-speed operation for allows for both fast and
> fine-finish cuts, and the dust collection feature works flawlessly.
>
> Also, regarding the Grizzly G1037 and the nearly identical Jet JPM-13;
> both planers weight just over 200 pounds and have 1-1/2HP motors. I don't
> know what the cost of the Jet is, but you'll notice the Grizzly G1037 is
> $895, whereas the 3HP G0453 is only $55 more at $950... And Grizzly is
> still offering free shipping on that machine right now.
Thanks!
Damn good to see a hands on review around here for a change, instead of
third hand opinion and Googlespert supposition ... and a well done one at
that!
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KarlC@ (the obvious)
So I'm wondering now whether it would be better just to get another
consumer-grade planer and toss it in a few years like the DeWalt, and
start all over? I have a friend that has an ancient Belsaw stationary
planer that he picked up for a song and it produces a glass like
finish, so I don't know. Just frustrated at this point and my wife
doesn't understand why a $375 planer didn't last forever.
On Mar 26, 7:30=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > How do you like that Delta, Leon? =A0Isn't that the one with the top-mo=
unted
> > motor and stationary table? =A0My Dad has the Grizzly version of that
> > planer, and I was considering the same model, but by the time I was rea=
dy
> > to buy Grizzly was no longer carrying it. =A0My Dad seems to have a bit=
of
> > an issue with its dust collection efficiency, but that may not be the
> > fault of the planer.
>
> Yes it is a top mounted motor model. =A0I am happy with it and have no
> complaints, yet. =A0I might have a complaint when it is time to sharpen t=
he
> blades. =A0IIRC the motor will be in the way. =A0I have mine hooked up to=
a 4",
> 20' clear flexible hose connected to a 1100 cfm dust collector. =A0Hardly=
a
> shaving escapes. =A0Dust collection on this particular planer is superior=
.
> the planer actually had a 5" port and I had to adapt it down to 4".
>
> One draw back to the stationary planers is that most if not all have the
> seriated in feed rollers. =A0If you make a very light pass the planer wil=
l not
> cut deep to remove the imprints and that requires a pit more sanding. =A0=
The
> trick is to not take a very light touch the last pass through.
> Unfortunately the depth gauge is pretty much to tell when you are getting
> close. =A0I very recently added a Wixey planer depth gauge to the planer =
so
> that I can dial in to the nearest .01" and not have to sneak up on the cu=
t.
> My 733 doesn't owe me anything.
>
> Only problem was that eventually couldn't set planer to less than 1".
>
> Called DeWalt tech service, they talked me thru the fix which was to
> remove a washer on each guide post.
Lew, could you expand on that. The one issue I have with my 733 is that
adjusting the height (thickness) is upward in the low range take an
unreasonable amount of torque. Is that the symptom you encountered?
Thanks,
Steve
Great information, thanks. I wondered about the molder part of the
Jet.
On Mar 26, 6:02=A0pm, Steve Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> > heavy duty, longer lasting. =A0Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, bu=
t
> > a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> > several years. =A0Any recommendations? =A0I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> > craigslisting for $500. =A0Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> > make the drive. =A0What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> > G1037?
>
> > Cheers
>
> Based on the models you mentioned I'm probably as qualified to answer as
> anyone; I own the Grizzly G0453 and my buddy owns the Jet JPM-13CS (CS
> =3D=3D closed stand). =A0And from what I can see the Grizzly G1037 is pre=
tty
> much identical to the Jet JPM-13...
>
> I think my buddy's opinion of the Jet is mixed; it does the job ok, but
> it's nothing to get excited about. =A0He considers the molder feature to
> be a waste; he's never found any need for it, especially after looking
> into the cost of the cutters (none of which come with the machine). =A0No=
r
> is it blessed with an overabundance of power, but I don't recall him
> complaining about that. =A0I don't know how well the dust collection
> works, but I haven't heard him complain about that either. =A0I can find
> out more from him if you're interested.
>
> I haven't had my Grizzly G0453 very long, but so far I've been very
> pleased. =A0Make no mistake though; this is a serious beast - it weighs
> around 650 pounds, and that's heavier than my Unisaur! =A0If you look at
> Jet's website they also make a model very similar to the Grizzly (the
> JWP-15DX), but from what I can tell (at a glance) the Grizzly sports
> slightly better features; the built-in mobile base for one, and all
> cast-iron tables for another. =A0The Grizzly was perfectly adjusted right
> off the pallet, and all I had to do was clean off all the shipping
> grease (THAT was a pain) and attach a power plug and it was making
> snipe-free cuts in no time. =A0Two-speed operation for allows for both
> fast and fine-finish cuts, and the dust collection feature works flawless=
ly.
>
> Also, regarding the Grizzly G1037 and the nearly identical Jet JPM-13;
> both planers weight just over 200 pounds and have 1-1/2HP motors. =A0I
> don't know what the cost of the Jet is, but you'll notice the Grizzly
> G1037 is $895, whereas the 3HP G0453 is only $55 more at $950... =A0And
> Grizzly is still offering free shipping on that machine right now.
>
> --
> See Nad. =A0See Nad go. =A0Go Nad!
> To reply, eat the taco.http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
Steve Turner wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> So I'm wondering now whether it would be better just to get another
>> consumer-grade planer and toss it in a few years like the DeWalt, and
>> start all over? I have a friend that has an ancient Belsaw stationary
>> planer that he picked up for a song and it produces a glass like
>> finish, so I don't know. Just frustrated at this point and my wife
>> doesn't understand why a $375 planer didn't last forever.
>
> If you're going to go that route, you might try searching craigslist or
> eBay for a used (they're no longer being manufactured) Delta 22-540.
> This was Delta's entry level planer for quite a few years and are fairly
> simplistic; 12" width, no dust collection port, and no head lock for
> snipe control. However, they were all-metal construction and built like
> a tank, and my understanding is that they last "forever". I had one
> that was about 10 years old, and I just sold it when I bought the new
> Grizzly a month or so ago. It was loud and messy and unrefined and it
> sniped pretty badly sometimes, but it was certainly reliable. If I
> wasn't strapped for space I probably would have kept it...
>
I have one of those, and have never had any mechanical problems with it.
I bought the exhaust port addon, which saves lots of cleanup. I also
experience snipe, but have had some luck in various magic incantations
and movements that reduce it to an acceptable level. I read that the
big nut on the blade holder came loose on some units, but mine has been
tight every time I've checked.
It it noisy. I SAID IT IS NOISY!
You know.. I can't remember exactly when I got
mine, but I thought it was along about 2002 but
I haven't had any problems other than the cheesy
plastic DC connection that keeps breaking at the
bolt tabs.
It very clearly says "Made in USA" on the cabinet.
The motor is from somewhere else.
Leon wrote:
> Well mine is 3 years old. I figured mine was built over there because the
> paint is not sticking to the iron and most likely because the machine oil
> was not removed properly.
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm giving up on my DeWalt DW733, and want something a little more
> heavy duty, longer lasting. Not looking for a 20" giganta-planer, but
> a 13" or 15" belt driven model I'll still be able to get parts for in
> several years. Any recommendations? I've seen a Delta DC33 on a
> craigslisting for $500. Not really nearby, but if it's worth it I'll
> make the drive. What about current Jet JPM-13 or Grizzly G453 or
> G1037?
>
> Cheers
If the DeWalt is not HD enough for you I seriously doubt you will consider
any of the portables HD either. The stationary planers, 15: range an up
typically use the same design year after year. They are thickness planers
and don't promise a baby's but finish but do what they are suppose to do. I
personally have a Delta X5 series 15" stationary planer.
"StephenM" wrote:
> FWIW, I got my 733 in 2001 and it has seen "thousands" of bf. I
> don't expect it to last forever but it has served me well.
>
> I think you got a lemon, and I think that you *can/should* expect to
> put a couple thousand BF though a lunchbox planer.
I'll 2nd the above.
My 733 doesn't owe me anything.
Only problem was that eventually couldn't set planer to less than 1".
Called DeWalt tech service, they talked me thru the fix which was to
remove a washer on each guide post.
Still runs like a champ.
Lew
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:25:05 -0400, StephenM wrote:
> FWIW, I got my 733 in 2001 and it has seen "thousands" of bf. I don't
> expect it to last forever but it has served me well.
>
> I think you got a lemon, and I think that you *can/should* expect to put
> a couple thousand BF though a lunchbox planer.
I'll second that. My ancient Ryobi AP10 is still going strong although
it is getting a bit noisy. I don't use it heavily, but over the 15-20
years I've had it I've surely run that much through it. Another
woodworker I know also has one he still uses.
Of course, one could say tools were built better 20 years ago, but
remember the Ryobi was the 1st "portable" planer. I would have expected
a lot more problems than they had.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> How do you like that Delta, Leon? Isn't that the one with the top-mounted
> motor and stationary table? My Dad has the Grizzly version of that
> planer, and I was considering the same model, but by the time I was ready
> to buy Grizzly was no longer carrying it. My Dad seems to have a bit of
> an issue with its dust collection efficiency, but that may not be the
> fault of the planer.
Yes it is a top mounted motor model. I am happy with it and have no
complaints, yet. I might have a complaint when it is time to sharpen the
blades. IIRC the motor will be in the way. I have mine hooked up to a 4",
20' clear flexible hose connected to a 1100 cfm dust collector. Hardly a
shaving escapes. Dust collection on this particular planer is superior.
the planer actually had a 5" port and I had to adapt it down to 4".
One draw back to the stationary planers is that most if not all have the
seriated in feed rollers. If you make a very light pass the planer will not
cut deep to remove the imprints and that requires a pit more sanding. The
trick is to not take a very light touch the last pass through.
Unfortunately the depth gauge is pretty much to tell when you are getting
close. I very recently added a Wixey planer depth gauge to the planer so
that I can dial in to the nearest .01" and not have to sneak up on the cut.