In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>#2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
>Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
>and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
>it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
>that's the basic plan)
That was my first thought, but they would have to be much older
variations. Current slump tets use an open cone a very specific filling
procedure. The cone is placed small end up, filled one third, rodded 25
times, filled to the 2/3 point, rodded 25 times with the rod going into
the bottom pour, but not through. Then topped off, rodded again.
--
DT
#2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
that's the basic plan)
--
Peter DiVergilio
"A bumblebee flies faster than a Kubota tractor"
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
In article <[email protected]>, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Ah... Maybe in a bar environment--to help de-juice a lime (with one
>hand)? No lewd comments please.
Now I know what it is. it's a pill-cutter. for certain kinds of sedatives.
But I can't say that -- it'd be a 'Luude remark.
*groan*
Bill wrote:
>
>
> Ah... Maybe in a bar environment--to help de-juice a lime (with one
> hand)? No lewd comments please.
Bill! You know that making that statement is only going to ensure lewd
comments. Of course you do. I get it - you sly dog you... You really
enjoy those lewd comments secretly and you're trying to apply some of that
reverse psychology stuff, aren't you?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2283: Its a torture device! : )
sright
he is torturing everyone for an answer for these strange objects
I don't see original post on rec.puzzles, so responding to this post.
2281 I don't see any input or carry mechanism, so it isn't part of a
counter.
The rounded tooth would seem to make it unsuitable for a gambling device.
So I guess it is part of some score indicator.
2282 Concrete testing slump-cone molds.
Fill with wet concrete, lift cone. Concrete slumps.
Height of pile indicates quality of the concrete... higher is better.
Height is specified.
Reject batch of concrete if slump is too low or ask for bribe.
2284 Has the elements of a tape dispenser/cutter, but has some less
than obvious extra function.
2285 Guess... Butter-Churn agitators?
On 6/30/2011 10:14 AM, Peter Divergilio wrote:
> #2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
> Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
> and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
> it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
> that's the basic plan)
>
On 6/30/11 10:52 AM, DT wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>> #2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
>> Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
>> and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
>> it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
>> that's the basic plan)
>
>
> That was my first thought, but they would have to be much older
> variations. Current slump tets use an open cone a very specific filling
> procedure. The cone is placed small end up, filled one third, rodded 25
> times, filled to the 2/3 point, rodded 25 times with the rod going into
> the bottom pour, but not through. Then topped off, rodded again.
>
I wondered how one would slide a closed cone off wet concrete.
If it's not for slump tests, I wonder how much weight a concrete post
molded like that would support. In a crawl space, it's easy for
termites to build tunnels up brick posts. A round concrete post would
be easier to inspect, and if it were capped with a steel plate a couple
of inches larger than the top of the cone, it might be termite proof.
The taper might make it easy to remove the mold.
> #2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
> Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
> and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
> it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
> that's the basic plan)
According to the owner of them, they are for a different purpose. Also, I'm
told that slump testers had two handles since it was important to lift them
straight up, which would be more difficult with one handle.
Rob
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
On 6/30/11 10:49 AM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>
> 2281 I don't see any input or carry mechanism, so it isn't part of a
> counter.
> The rounded tooth would seem to make it unsuitable for a gambling device.
> So I guess it is part of some score indicator.
I see a gambling device designed to assure gamblers that everything is
above board. By adding or removing light washers, the four weight
points could make the wheel balance perfectly without the clicker. It
could first be put in motion, and then the clicker could be engaged.
There seem to be 12 teeth, but the symbol below the 0 doesn't look like
an 11. Perhaps it's a gambling symbol. The 34 could mean it was used
in a place with at least 34 tables.
>I don't see original post on rec.puzzles, so responding to this post.
I posted it the same as I usually do, I guess my news server had a problem
this morning.
> 2281 I don't see any input or carry mechanism, so it isn't part of a
> counter.
> The rounded tooth would seem to make it unsuitable for a gambling device.
> So I guess it is part of some score indicator.
It may seem unsuitable for gambling but it was part of a riverboatboat
gambling display at a museum.
> 2282 Concrete testing slump-cone molds.
> Fill with wet concrete, lift cone. Concrete slumps.
> Height of pile indicates quality of the concrete... higher is better.
> Height is specified.
> Reject batch of concrete if slump is too low or ask for bribe.
Nope
> 2284 Has the elements of a tape dispenser/cutter, but has some less than
> obvious extra function.
No comment since it's on Neatorama.
> 2285 Guess... Butter-Churn agitators?
They aren't for butter but you're not far off.
Rob
"Esra Sdrawkcab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:04:12 +0100, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> #2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
>>> Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
>>> and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
>>> it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
>>> that's the basic plan)
>>
>> According to the owner of them, they are for a different purpose. Also,
>> I'm told that slump testers had two handles since it was important to
>> lift them straight up, which would be more difficult with one handle.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> Giant candle snuffers?
Nope
"BQ340" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 6/30/2011 4:09 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Is #2282 a rivet catcher?
>
> MikeB
Correct! First ones that I've ever seen, they're probably more common near
old ship yards.
>>> Is #2282 a rivet catcher?
>>>
>>> MikeB
>>
>>
>> Correct! First ones that I've ever seen, they're probably more common
>> near old ship yards.
>
> Possibly construction sites, too. I could swear I've seen old movies
> with scenes on construction sites where the characters were catching
> rivets. But it's not as if I would have recognized these.
Yes, the only link I could find for them was a documentary on the
construction of the Empire State Building in which one could be partially
seen for about a half of a second.
They have all been answered correctly this week though I'm not 100% sure on
number 2283:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/06/set-395.html#answers
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> They have all been answered correctly this week though I'm not 100% sure on
> number 2283:
>
> Rob
>
The plum pit removers all appear to have a hole in the lower
part that the extracted pit falls thru. 2283 lacks this hole so I
don't think that's the correct ID.
Art
"Artemus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> They have all been answered correctly this week though I'm not 100% sure
>> on
>> number 2283:
>>
>> Rob
>>
> The plum pit removers all appear to have a hole in the lower
> part that the extracted pit falls thru. 2283 lacks this hole so I
> don't think that's the correct ID.
> Art
Good point, it also doesn't explain the hole in the middle of the blades.
While it does have some similarities to the pitters I have to agree that
it's probably not one.
Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
Bill wrote:
>
> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
By George Bill, I think you've got it!
"Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
--Winston
Winston wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>>
>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>
> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>
> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>
> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>
> --Winston
Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating evidence?
Bill
Bill wrote:
> Winston wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>
>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>
>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>
>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>
>> --Winston
>
> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating evidence?
>
> Bill
>
Typo: I am unconvinced.
Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Winston wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
>>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
>>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>>
>>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>>
>>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>>
>>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>>
>>> --Winston
>>
>> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
>> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
>> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating evidence?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>
> Typo: I am unconvinced.
Bill, could you list the other resources you used then? :)
If I stumbled across a picture showing the device screwed into
a table with a hookah bowl being rotated between the support and
reamer and someone adjusting the cutter height via the top knob,
you could state that the tool probably was never *designed* for
that use! This could get silly quickly.
It *appears* to be a hookah bowl cleaner to me because of
the design features I outline. I have done a little more
homework that indicates a smoker could maintain their pipe
using a proprietary chemical cleaner and lots of hot water.
I conjecture that substances other than tobacco could leave a
deposit that would be much quicker to clean using this sort of
mechanical aid. I don't have any experience in the area, so
I admit that I made an uneducated guess based on the geometry,
labeling and apparent size of #2283.
I will chuckle when it becomes clear that this is something
*completely* different. As you know, science progresses with
a series of testable guesses. That one is mine.
Cheers :)
--Winston
jim wrote:
>
>
> Winston wrote:
>
>>
>> I will chuckle when it becomes clear that this is something
>> *completely* different. As you know, science progresses with
>> a series of testable guesses. That one is mine.
>
> Kalian Products of New York is a defunct company that sold dinnerware
> and kitchen utensils
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Aluminum-KALIAN-Bowl-METALWARE-Italy-DECORATIVE-/320231774104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a8f4d1798
>
> My guess would be that this item is not complete and was designed for
> chopping food. perhaps chopping garlic or other condiments.
Now that would be terrific!
:)
--Winston
Bill wrote:
> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the fins.
> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
I used to be a pipe smoker and I can't imagine using such a terrifying-
looking tool on one! ;-)
I also can't imagine why a fruit pitter would have what looks like blades
to cut the item into segments. I've seen pitted olives, pitted plums, and
even pitted dates, and they weren't segmented. Do cranberries have pits?
So, I guess I'm not much help either. )-;
Cheers!
Rich
Winston wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Winston wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>>>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the
>>>>> fins.
>>>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
>>>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>>>
>>>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>>>
>>>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>>>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>>>
>>>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>>>
>>>> --Winston
>>>
>>> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
>>> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
>>> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating evidence?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>> Typo: I am unconvinced.
>
> Bill, could you list the other resources you used then? :)
I didn't use any other resources. It reminded me of a ordinary
pipe-reamer as used in plumbing except it's shape obviously excluded it
from that context. It did occur to me that the shape of the device
would allow for alternatel sized "cutters". I did a little more
homework, last night but not nearly as much as you. If you found a
picture of it being used, then I'd say we got it!
>
> If I stumbled across a picture showing the device screwed into
> a table with a hookah bowl being rotated between the support and
> reamer and someone adjusting the cutter height via the top knob,
> you could state that the tool probably was never *designed* for
> that use! This could get silly quickly.
>
> It *appears* to be a hookah bowl cleaner to me because of
> the design features I outline. I have done a little more
> homework that indicates a smoker could maintain their pipe
> using a proprietary chemical cleaner and lots of hot water.
> I conjecture that substances other than tobacco could leave a
> deposit that would be much quicker to clean using this sort of
> mechanical aid. I don't have any experience in the area, so
> I admit that I made an uneducated guess based on the geometry,
> labeling and apparent size of #2283.
>
> I will chuckle when it becomes clear that this is something
> *completely* different. As you know, science progresses with
> a series of testable guesses. That one is mine.
>
> Cheers :)
>
> --Winston
On 7/2/11 10:19 AM, jim wrote:
>
> Kalian Products of New York is a defunct company that sold dinnerware
> and kitchen utensils
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Aluminum-KALIAN-Bowl-METALWARE-Italy-DECORATIVE-/320231774104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a8f4d1798
>
> My guess would be that this item is not complete and was designed for
> chopping food. perhaps chopping garlic or other condiments.
>
>
The blades appear to be 2" in diameter, like a lemon. The keyed stand
could keep the bottom of a cup centered and keep it from turning. If
there were a grating plate 1/2" or so above the bottom of the cup, the
blades could press a lemon half while forcing it to turn against the
grating plate.
One can grate a lemon on a cheese grater, but that can make a mess,
possibly a bloody one.
Bill wrote:
> Winston wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> Winston wrote:
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>>>>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the
>>>>>> fins.
>>>>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe. Even I
>>>>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>>>>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>>>>
>>>>> --Winston
>>>>
>>>> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
>>>> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
>>>> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating
>>>> evidence?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>
>>> Typo: I am unconvinced.
>>
>> Bill, could you list the other resources you used then? :)
>
> I didn't use any other resources. It reminded me of a ordinary
> pipe-reamer as used in plumbing except it's shape obviously excluded it
> from that context. It did occur to me that the shape of the device would
> allow for alternatel sized "cutters". I did a little more homework, last
> night but not nearly as much as you. If you found a picture of it being
> used, then I'd say we got it!
That was a 'hypothetical'. I wanted to see how mobile the
'goal posts' were. :)
As Jim mentioned, it looks like we were wrong and #2283 is
probably a labor saving tool for the kitchen.
Other Kalian items sporting the same hallmark format:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/49772260/vintage-sleek-metal-tin-watering-can
http://vintagesadiebell.ecrater.com/p/5866183/kalian-aluminum-bowl-metalware-italy
http://picclick.com/VTG-MEAT-PRESS-BACON-STEAK-HAMBURGER-KALIAN-N-Y-C-NO-R-200593227488.html
It doesn't seem likely that a kitchenware manufacturer
would also sell 'smoking tools'.
Oh Well! :)
--Winston
Winston wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Winston wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Winston wrote:
>>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside of a
>>>>>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the
>>>>>>> fins.
>>>>>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe.
>>>>>>> Even I
>>>>>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>>>>>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Winston
>>>>>
>>>>> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
>>>>> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
>>>>> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating
>>>>> evidence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Typo: I am unconvinced.
>>>
>>> Bill, could you list the other resources you used then? :)
>>
>> I didn't use any other resources. It reminded me of a ordinary
>> pipe-reamer as used in plumbing except it's shape obviously excluded it
>> from that context. It did occur to me that the shape of the device would
>> allow for alternatel sized "cutters". I did a little more homework, last
>> night but not nearly as much as you. If you found a picture of it being
>> used, then I'd say we got it!
>
> That was a 'hypothetical'. I wanted to see how mobile the
> 'goal posts' were. :)
>
> As Jim mentioned, it looks like we were wrong and #2283 is
> probably a labor saving tool for the kitchen.
> Other Kalian items sporting the same hallmark format:
>
> http://www.etsy.com/listing/49772260/vintage-sleek-metal-tin-watering-can
> http://vintagesadiebell.ecrater.com/p/5866183/kalian-aluminum-bowl-metalware-italy
>
> http://picclick.com/VTG-MEAT-PRESS-BACON-STEAK-HAMBURGER-KALIAN-N-Y-C-NO-R-200593227488.html
>
>
> It doesn't seem likely that a kitchenware manufacturer
> would also sell 'smoking tools'.
>
> Oh Well! :)
Ok, then. It might be helpful in cutting the pulp out of a grapefruit,
orange or lemon?
Bill
>
> --Winston
Bill wrote:
> Winston wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Winston wrote:
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>> Winston wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rob H.<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2283. My best guess is this is a tool used to smooth the inside
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> pipe (used for smoking) by hand, the force applied by hand to the
>>>>>>>> fins.
>>>>>>>> It might be useful to someone without electricity for a lathe.
>>>>>>>> Even I
>>>>>>>> don't quite believe it, but it's my best guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By George Bill, I think you've got it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Text on it reads Made in Italy and Kalian N.Y.C. 5177"
>>>>>>> http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/calean.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears to be a hookah bowl cleaner!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Winston
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winston, I admittedly looked up "Kalian" on Google images to help me
>>>>>> guess, so I don't think it's appropriate to use that to validate my
>>>>>> guess. I am not unconvinced. Can you provide any corroborating
>>>>>> evidence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Typo: I am unconvinced.
>>>>
>>>> Bill, could you list the other resources you used then? :)
>>>
>>> I didn't use any other resources. It reminded me of a ordinary
>>> pipe-reamer as used in plumbing except it's shape obviously excluded it
>>> from that context. It did occur to me that the shape of the device would
>>> allow for alternatel sized "cutters". I did a little more homework, last
>>> night but not nearly as much as you. If you found a picture of it being
>>> used, then I'd say we got it!
>>
>> That was a 'hypothetical'. I wanted to see how mobile the
>> 'goal posts' were. :)
>>
>> As Jim mentioned, it looks like we were wrong and #2283 is
>> probably a labor saving tool for the kitchen.
>> Other Kalian items sporting the same hallmark format:
>>
>> http://www.etsy.com/listing/49772260/vintage-sleek-metal-tin-watering-can
>> http://vintagesadiebell.ecrater.com/p/5866183/kalian-aluminum-bowl-metalware-italy
>>
>>
>> http://picclick.com/VTG-MEAT-PRESS-BACON-STEAK-HAMBURGER-KALIAN-N-Y-C-NO-R-200593227488.html
>>
>>
>>
>> It doesn't seem likely that a kitchenware manufacturer
>> would also sell 'smoking tools'.
>>
>> Oh Well! :)
>
> Ok, then. It might be helpful in cutting the pulp out of a grapefruit,
> orange or lemon?
>
> Bill
>
>>
>> --Winston
>
Ah... Maybe in a bar environment--to help de-juice a lime (with one
hand)? No lewd comments please.
Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
(...)
>> Ok, then. It might be helpful in cutting the pulp out of a grapefruit,
>> orange or lemon?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>>
>>> --Winston
>>
>
>
> Ah... Maybe in a bar environment--to help de-juice a lime (with one
> hand)? No lewd comments please.
Moi? :)
A size scale would be most helpful here.
Perhaps Rob would favor us with a picture including a scale?
http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Item 2283
Often, I'm surprised at the real size of a 'What is it?' entry.
The concave feature in the existing base appears to
accommodate a protrusion so you could be right.
http://crazy-frankenstein.com/free-wallpapers-files/food/lemon-wallpapers/lime-lemon-wallpapers-1024x768.jpg
http://crazy-frankenstein.com/free-wallpapers-files/food/lemon-wallpapers/one-lemon-wallpapers-1024x768.jpg
--Winston
> A size scale would be most helpful here.
> Perhaps Rob would favor us with a picture including a scale?
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Item 2283
The owner of it sent me this photo with a ruler next to it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2283e.jpg
As I mentioned on the site, the clearance under the blades is 2-1/4".
I agree that it's probably a kitchen tool but it doesn't make sense to me
that there is a hole in the blade part, and I don't know what the wire is
for. I think part of it might be missing, maybe something fits in the slot
on the base. One other possibility for it is an ice crusher, can't remember
if someone here already guessed that or not.
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>
>> A size scale would be most helpful here.
>> Perhaps Rob would favor us with a picture including a scale?
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Item 2283
>
>
> The owner of it sent me this photo with a ruler next to it:
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2283e.jpg
Thanks, Rob.
This picture clearly shows an adjustment collar that sets the
maximum axial 'depth of cut'. I hadn't noticed that before.
Their appears to be a journal bearing supporting the shaft to
maintain alignment, so that one hand can support the citrus and
the other hand can twist and rotate the squeezer blades using
the top knob.
> As I mentioned on the site, the clearance under the blades is 2-1/4".
Yes, you did say.
> I agree that it's probably a kitchen tool but it doesn't make sense to
> me that there is a hole in the blade part, and I don't know what the
> wire is for.
If it is a lime squeezer, that spring-loaded wire would automatically
eject the skin as soon as the blades were retracted from the fruit.
> I think part of it might be missing, maybe something fits
> in the slot on the base. One other possibility for it is an ice crusher,
> can't remember if someone here already guessed that or not.
Sounds messy. Plus the bottom support does not look stout enough
to withstand the force.
What if the tool were used thusly:
Screwed into a benchtop. a short reservoir is placed under the
bottom support.
An ice pick is driven axially into the bottom
of a lime and it's top is sliced off.
The lime protrusion is placed in the recess and the blade
assembly is run into the fruit.
Juice runs out the hole in the bottom of the lime as
the blades squeeze it from the inside.
It looks like it would make a dandy lime juicer, even if it
was not originally designed with that purpose in mind.
Perhaps the owner would want to test that theory?
--Winston
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Item 2283
>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2283e.jpg
> If it is a lime squeezer, that spring-loaded wire would automatically
> eject the skin as soon as the blades were retracted from the fruit.
I don't follow this at all, not sure how that wire is going to eject the
skin.
> What if the tool were used thusly:
> Screwed into a benchtop. a short reservoir is placed under the
> bottom support.
> An ice pick is driven axially into the bottom
> of a lime and it's top is sliced off.
> The lime protrusion is placed in the recess and the blade
> assembly is run into the fruit.
> Juice runs out the hole in the bottom of the lime as
> the blades squeeze it from the inside.
>
> It looks like it would make a dandy lime juicer, even if it
> was not originally designed with that purpose in mind.
>
> Perhaps the owner would want to test that theory?
I'll pass your idea on to the owner of it and see what he has to say, thanks
for your input on this one.
Rob
Rob H. wrote:
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/ Item 2283
>
>>> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2012/pic2283e.jpg
>
>> If it is a lime squeezer, that spring-loaded wire would automatically
>> eject the skin as soon as the blades were retracted from the fruit.
>
>
> I don't follow this at all, not sure how that wire is going to eject the
> skin.
As the cutters push into the fruit, a portion of the
pulp would depress the central spring. Maximum travel
of the spring happens when the cutters have finished.
As the cutters are retracted, the central spring applies
pressure on the pulp which creates a gap between the
cutters and the inside of the fruit.
>
>
>> What if the tool were used thusly:
>> Screwed into a benchtop. a short reservoir is placed under the
>> bottom support.
>> An ice pick is driven axially into the bottom
>> of a lime and it's top is sliced off.
>> The lime protrusion is placed in the recess and the blade
>> assembly is run into the fruit.
>> Juice runs out the hole in the bottom of the lime as
>> the blades squeeze it from the inside.
>>
>> It looks like it would make a dandy lime juicer, even if it
>> was not originally designed with that purpose in mind.
>>
>> Perhaps the owner would want to test that theory?
>
>
> I'll pass your idea on to the owner of it and see what he has to say,
> thanks for your input on this one.
Thank you for _What is it?_ Rob. It is highly entertaining!
--Winston
On 7/3/11 12:36 AM, Winston wrote:
>
> What if the tool were used thusly:
> Screwed into a benchtop. a short reservoir is placed under the
> bottom support.
> An ice pick is driven axially into the bottom
> of a lime and it's top is sliced off.
> The lime protrusion is placed in the recess and the blade
> assembly is run into the fruit.
> Juice runs out the hole in the bottom of the lime as
> the blades squeeze it from the inside.
>
> It looks like it would make a dandy lime juicer, even if it
> was not originally designed with that purpose in mind.
I think the pick hole would clog and the rind would become a cup of
juice and pulp.
Two ordinary approaches would be cheaper and quicker. A citrus squeezer
is a hand-held hinged device where you put the half-fruit over a dome
and mash it with a cup. A citrus juicer is a dome with ridges like
longitude lines. You press the half-fruit on and twist.
The mystery device reminds me of my Foley applesauce maker, which may be
a century old. It's a sort of pan designed to put atop another pan.
The bottom is an upward-pointing cone of perforated steel. After all
these decades, the perforations still feel sharp from the top, so it
grates cooked, cut apples.
The blade looks like a blade from an outboard propeller. It pushes the
soft pieces down and around against the grater. A wire whisker is also
attached to the shaft. It scrapes the underside of the grater.
If the mystery item is a grater similar to my applesauce maker, it's for
something grated in much smaller quantities than applesauce. The blades
would be to push, grip, and turn something with a tough skin. Perhaps a
springy whisker has broken off the wire piece.
I've decided it probably wasn't for grating citrus fruit. The oily
outside is desirable, but I understand the pith is bitter... unless
somebody wanted grated pith... to stop ants?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:56:02 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
>> Is #2282 a rivet catcher?
>>
>> MikeB
>
>
> Correct! First ones that I've ever seen, they're probably more common
> near old ship yards.
Possibly construction sites, too. I could swear I've seen old movies
with scenes on construction sites where the characters were catching
rivets. But it's not as if I would have recognized these.
--
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 22:04:12 +0100, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> #2282 - Forms used for concrete "Slump" Testing
>> Fill them with fresh concrete - tip them upside down
>> and let the concrete stand. Measurements tell you if
>> it is the proper consistency. (Lots more details, but
>> that's the basic plan)
>
> According to the owner of them, they are for a different purpose. Also,
> I'm told that slump testers had two handles since it was important to
> lift them straight up, which would be more difficult with one handle.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
Giant candle snuffers?
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On 2011-06-30, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Kind of late posting, but I'll post before I see what others
have posted.
2281) A "wheel of fortune" type game of chance. Not the big one with
the spinning pointer, but still the same principle. A detent
wheel and spring-loaded detent to make sure that it stops with a
number centered in the rectangular hole to the right in the
"fender".
Not sure whether it would be used with one or two others beside
it to increase the possible number of choices.
2282) These look to be oversize versions of candle snuffers, so they
are probably to put out torches or similar.
2283) This looks like a device for sectioning a grapefruit.
It is made of the kind of metal which is often used in European
food processing gadgets.
However -- I would think that it should have some kind of
protective cover over the point.
2284) This looks like a machine for extending a length of tape from
a roll held on the small crank to the left, and then cutting it
off.
I think that the wooden handle should be started on the other
side, and moved towards its current position.
There are two rollers, spring loaded into contact with each
other, and geared to rotate so the space between them will pull
the tape from the reel to the cutoff point.
The tape may be some form of labeling, or may just be for
sealing boxes.
2285) Looks like some form of potato masher.
I expect the wire in the first photo to be bent at right angles
to the handle to look sort of like a foot. This would be the
first step, and then when things were well started, the other
end would make a finer mash.
2286) For taking sighting angles and transferring them to a chart to
establish a position on water by sighting on landmarks on nearby
land.
A rather precise one. I can't get a clear enough view, but I
suspect that there are vernier scales to help the resolution,
and the microscope for viewing them under magnification to make
it even easier to read precisely.
Hmm ... I see a repeat of the images starting, so the answers
have already been posted. Well -- I'll send this off, and then read the
answers on the web site, and finish up by reading the posted responses.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 7/5/2011 11:13 PM, George W Frost wrote:
> "Bill"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Rob H. wrote:
>>> I need some help figuring out the third item in this set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>>
>> 2283: Its a torture device! : )
>
> sright
> he is torturing everyone for an answer for these strange objects
>
>
Winston wrote:
>
> I will chuckle when it becomes clear that this is something
> *completely* different. As you know, science progresses with
> a series of testable guesses. That one is mine.
Kalian Products of New York is a defunct company that sold dinnerware
and kitchen utensils
http://cgi.ebay.com/Aluminum-KALIAN-Bowl-METALWARE-Italy-DECORATIVE-/320231774104?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a8f4d1798
My guess would be that this item is not complete and was designed for
chopping food. perhaps chopping garlic or other condiments.
>
> Cheers :)
>
> --Winston