Specifically, the PS21-2A. The item I just bought does not hold
all of my quickchange drill bits properly. At the same time, my
Bosch I-Driver holds the same bits perfectly. I really really like
this drill, but cannot accept the chuck problem. Anyone know about
it, like whether it is part of the design, or is it more likely a
flawed drill/batch?
I suppose taking it back to the store would more likely get one
from the same lot. Then again, I won't have to wait to find out.
Thanks.
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On Jul 10, 8:33=A0pm, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Specifically, the PS21-2A. The item I just bought does not hold
> all of my quickchange drill bits properly. At the same time, my
> Bosch I-Driver holds the same bits perfectly. I really really like
> this drill, but cannot accept the chuck problem. Anyone know about
> it, like whether it is part of the design, or is it more likely a
> flawed drill/batch?
>
> I suppose taking it back to the store would more likely get one
> from the same lot. Then again, I won't have to wait to find out.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> crossposted, please feel free to trim groups
They should pop in and out no issues. Is there a piece of packing
styrofoam or something crammed into the bottom of the chuck? There
should also be a ball you can see when the chuck is closed. Is it
there?
RP
RP <rpenr1 hotmail.com> wrote:
> John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Specifically, the PS21-2A.
> They should pop in and out no issues.
As I noticed today, the thing firmly grips the very short 1" screw
bits without using a magnetic holder, a bit with tiny cuts on each
of the its six corners, providing an extremely short distance from
the handgrip to the screw (assuming the workplace allows it). The
problem might have something to do with their effort to also grip
those 1" bits.
>> >> Specifically, the PS21-2A.
> The issue is that most screwgun/impactors are made to grip 2"
> bits which need a ball detent versus a wire detent( which you
> described) You need to use your holder as a rule.
This tool (Bosch driver PS21-2A) is supposed to hold regular drill
bits, the kind that require a ball detent.
I might just work around it by adding a thin coat of super glue
(or whatever) to the shanks that do not stay put.
John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
> Specifically, the PS21-2A.
The tool holds one-inch bits more securely than it does detent
type bits, but strangely, the manual says the 1" bits should only
be used when inserted into a magnetic detent-type bit holder.
"krw att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
...
> No, the PS21-2A does not hold regular drill bits. It *only*
> holds ball-detent tools.
I have never seen a quickchange drill bit that is anything except
a ball detent-type bit. But apparently Kow is also referring to
screw bits. From a Bosch website... "It now has a lockable bit
holder for universal use, which safely locks both long E6 and
short C6 screwdriver bits as well as hex shank drill bits." Also
notice the distinction between "screw(driver)" bit and "drill"
bit, Kow.
> From page 8 of the user's manual:
>
> "One inch bits should only be used along with a bit holder as
> shown in figure 2."
I already referred to that part of the owners manual, Kow,
apparently the fucking manual is wrong. This thing holds 1" screw
bits better than it holds drill bits. The same condition is
mentioned in an Amazon review of the product... "it will actually
grab the 1" bits that normally are too short and won't hold in
other 1/4" chucks (like impact drivers) and hold them solid". The
same is spelled out at another website... "The drivers chuck is a
1/4" Hex Universal Bit Holder which is the only universal bit
holder in its class which clamps on all common bits (C6+E6)". That
is also mentioned back on Amazon's website under Technical
Details. If you are just trolling for information, Kow, you are
welcome.
>>I might just work around it by adding a thin coat of super glue
>>(or whatever) to the shanks that do not stay put.
>
> Why not use the bits that it was intended to use, or an adapter?
You have it bass ackwards, Kow, and wrong. As stated in my
original post, the problem is about holding regular drill bits,
and in fact it does hold 1 inch screw bits perfectly. If you are
just trolling for information, Kow, you are welcome.
Again... The problem is with some drill bits (ball-detent type
bits), even one of my new Snappy quickchange adapters. But I like
the rest of the drill so much, I will probably work around it by
putting a light coat of super glue (or whatever, maybe after light
sanding) on the shank of problem drill bits. I am talking about
ball-detent type bits, Kow. I just mentioned C6 screw bits because
that flexibility probably has something to do with the tool having
trouble holding some E6 bits.
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> This thing holds 1" screw bits better than it holds drill bits.
I am going to try making a long E6 beveled bit into a short type
C6 notched/nicked bits, by chucking and spinning the far end and
very lightly using a cutoff tool to make six tiny cuts on the hex
shank. Hopefully to convert at least one of my magnetic E6 type
bit holders into that C6 type shank. And if that works, then
convert my Snappy drill bit adapters. Not sure exactly what the
hex grooves should look like, whether they must be the same as the
tiny cuts in a C6 bit. If it works, it should be great, the weird
chuck holds the short C6 type bits tightly.
On Jul 12, 2:45=A0am, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
> RP <rpenr1 hotmail.com> wrote:
> > John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Specifically, the PS21-2A.
> > They should pop in and out no issues.
>
> As I noticed today, the thing firmly grips the very short 1" screw
> bits without using a magnetic holder, a bit with tiny cuts on each
> of the its six corners, providing an extremely short distance from
> the handgrip to the screw (assuming the workplace allows it). The
> problem might have something to do with their effort to also grip
> those 1" bits.
The issue is that most screwgun/impactors are made to grip 2" bits
which need a ball detent versus a wire detent( which you described)
You need to use your holder as a rule.
RP
On 11 Jul 2010 00:33:31 GMT, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
>Specifically, the PS21-2A. The item I just bought does not hold
>all of my quickchange drill bits properly. At the same time, my
>Bosch I-Driver holds the same bits perfectly. I really really like
>this drill, but cannot accept the chuck problem. Anyone know about
>it, like whether it is part of the design, or is it more likely a
>flawed drill/batch?
>
>I suppose taking it back to the store would more likely get one
>from the same lot. Then again, I won't have to wait to find out.
>
>Thanks.
It could be the chuck. Take it to an authorized Bosch service center
and they will replace it under warranty. I purchased a Bosch cordless
tool set years ago. The blade for the sawzall would fall out. The
quick-release had a part missing and they replaced the quick-release
with a new one.
On 14 Jul 2010 03:03:03 GMT, John Doe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Specifically, the PS21-2A.
>
>> The issue is that most screwgun/impactors are made to grip 2"
>> bits which need a ball detent versus a wire detent( which you
>> described) You need to use your holder as a rule.
>
>This tool (Bosch driver PS21-2A) is supposed to hold regular drill
>bits, the kind that require a ball detent.
No, the PS21-2A does not hold regular drill bits. It *only* holds ball-detent
tools. From page 8 of the user's manual:
"One inch bits should only be used along
with a bit holder as shown in figure 2."
>I might just work around it by adding a thin coat of super glue
>(or whatever) to the shanks that do not stay put.
Why not use the bits that it was intended to use, or an adapter?