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"Rob H."

16/02/2012 4:04 AM

What is it? Set 428

Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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kk

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 2:52 AM

On Feb 15, 11:04=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2481. Bead breaker for tires.
Karl

Kk

Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 6:47 AM

2479 Fishing pole jig?
2480 Tire Repair tool?
2481 Manual Tire Separator?
2482 Dowel vise?
2483 Horror movie prop, I know it scares me!? Butcher blade?
2484 No guess

On 2/16/2012 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

ld

lektric dan

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 4:02 AM

2479 is a flashlight of some kind, like a bore light
2480 almost looks like a tool for clearing the flash hole in a black
powder cannon, but I can't figure out what the thumb screw would be
for. Makes it look like some kind of electrical probe.
2481 tire bead breaker (I peeked...)
2482 a tool to grab onto damaged studs or nuts to remove them (or
insert new studs), like in an engine block.
2483 some kind of multi-tool for masonry work? For tuck pointing?

On Feb 16, 3:04=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:18 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Tire breaker, nut buster, splicing fid looks like the only three I'd guess
on.

Steve

SB

"Steven Boyes"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 1:41 AM

2483 Is used for trimming slate roofing tiles. the spike is struck
into a block of wood so that the blade is vertical. The slate is held in the
left hand with the trim line on the top edge. A blade in the right hand is
used with a sharp chopping action, acting a bit like scissors, to trim off
the excess.

Steve

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Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

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"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:41 AM

2479 no clue
2480 no clue
2481 tire bead breaker
2482 interchangable tool handle. But, for what?
2483 Meat cleaver from the 1950s with ducktail hair cut
2484 seed planting tip for a combine


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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Rob

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"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:42 AM

That's about the only one I really recognized.

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

>2481. Bead breaker for tires.
>Karl


Correct, it was made by the Cam Tool Co., Oakland, Cal.


SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:43 AM

Does it contain AA battery, and is that a #112 bulb I see, poking out the
end?


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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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2479 looks like a night fishing "alarm" that my dad invented in 1956.



LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 5:56 AM

2479 looks like a night fishing "alarm" that my dad invented in 1956.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:44 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
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> Fishing alarm is correct, it says patent pending but I couldn't find
the
> patent, do you happen to know the patent number from your father's
> invention?

No, Rob. He had six or seven patents over the decades, but it was all
lost when he passed away, and Mom cleaned out.

He had patented, also, a "modular" Mahjong storage/playing accessories
box, a "tri-trailer" that could be used as a utility trailer, camper, or
boat trailer, a dry-fire practice device for 1911 target shooting
(interesting, that one... had a "dual" target, one bull for the piercing
tip on the plunger, and one bull for sighting. You sighted on the top
bull, and when the hammer fell, a plunger with a pin tip would pierce the
bottom target. You shot from an inch away from the paper, against a cork
board.

Also patented a microfiche holder/slider you'll see on many machines
these days, and a knock-down golf club cart that was lighter and more
compact than the Bag Boy drag cart of the 1950s.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:56 AM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
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> Fishing alarm is correct, it says patent pending but I couldn't find the
> patent, do you happen to know the patent number from your father's
> invention?

You might look up Elston Sponenburgh, though...

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 4:41 PM

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> A timber in contact with the soil, such as a railroad tie, might be
> ideal
>> because charges would drain slowly through the resistance of the
>> wood. It looks as if the awl would make a hole big enough to insert
>> the tapered pin, and the pin could be pushed in for a very firm
>> connection.
>
>
> Sounds like a reasonable use for it, though I haven't been able to
> verify any of the guesses for this tool yet so I'm going to leave it
> unanswered for
>

My wife is a licensed blaster. I've gone through all of her catalogs,
and the old Dupont Blaster's Handbook, and I cannot find any such tool in
the hundreds that have been available over the decades.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 5:51 PM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:jhmn49$vme$1@dont-
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> I'm trying to imagine an activity where one might need to drain charges
> through wood. Fueling? Operating an electronic instrument?

If it's an electrode for wood, at all, I'd more suspect is was for an
earlier form of moisture sensor; but prudence would say it needed two
electrodes of a certain length and spacing.

Lloyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 5:57 PM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:jhmn49$vme$1@dont-
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> Did you see any ESD stuff? I think static is hazardous in the factory,
> but it may not be of concern in the field.

Forgot to answer this... there was a distinct lack of ESD hardware for
blasters in the field.

Blasting caps are notoriously safe to handle (from the ESD perspective),
so long as - if they're electrical - their leads are kept shunted until
hooked up to properly terminated blasting machine.

From my own experience, I can say that fuse-style caps present little or
no ESD danger potential. The active composition is deeply recessed
inside the casing, leaving plenty of metal above for the crimp.

An 'ordinary' static spark would never reach that deep into the shell.
It's usually metal, and the spark would jump to the shell lip first, thus
acting like an ersatz Faraday Cage around the active composition. (which
is, admittedly, usually a very sensitive metal fulminate or azide)

LLoyd

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 9:21 AM

On 2/16/2012 3:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


Several 'close' answers on 2482. It's a chisel/punch holder. Not a
stud remover. Fairly modern.

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"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 6:45 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 11:04 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

>2481. Bead breaker for tires.
>Karl


Correct, it was made by the Cam Tool Co., Oakland, Cal.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 8:19 AM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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> 2479 looks like a night fishing "alarm" that my dad invented in 1956.


Fishing alarm is correct, it says patent pending but I couldn't find the
patent, do you happen to know the patent number from your father's
invention?

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 8:23 AM


>2480 almost looks like a tool for clearing the flash hole in a black
>powder cannon, but I can't figure out what the thumb screw would be
>for. Makes it look like some kind of electrical probe.


Yes, several people have said it looks like it has an electrical contact,
but I haven't been able to find any information on it.

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 8:56 AM

On 2/16/2012 8:44 AM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> "Rob H."<[email protected]> fired this volley in
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>

2483: Butcher's tool (chickens?)?

Cw

"Cliff"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 10:00 AM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2485 Chisel holder

2484 Marlin spike?

Cliff

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 4:03 PM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Fishing alarm is correct, it says patent pending but I couldn't find
> the
>> patent, do you happen to know the patent number from your father's
>> invention?
>
> No, Rob. He had six or seven patents over the decades, but it was all
> lost when he passed away, and Mom cleaned out.
>
> He had patented, also, a "modular" Mahjong storage/playing accessories
> box, a "tri-trailer" that could be used as a utility trailer, camper, or
> boat trailer, a dry-fire practice device for 1911 target shooting
> (interesting, that one... had a "dual" target, one bull for the piercing
> tip on the plunger, and one bull for sighting. You sighted on the top
> bull, and when the hammer fell, a plunger with a pin tip would pierce the
> bottom target. You shot from an inch away from the paper, against a cork
> board.
>
> Also patented a microfiche holder/slider you'll see on many machines
> these days, and a knock-down golf club cart that was lighter and more
> compact than the Bag Boy drag cart of the 1950s.
>
> LLoyd


Thanks for the information, haven't found a patent for the alarm yet but
will look again tonight.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 4:05 PM


"Steven Boyes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> 2483 Is used for trimming slate roofing tiles. the spike is struck
> into a block of wood so that the blade is vertical. The slate is held in
> the left hand with the trim line on the top edge. A blade in the right
> hand is used with a sharp chopping action, acting a bit like scissors, to
> trim off the excess.
>
> Steve


Correct, otherwise known as a roof slater's axe.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 4:07 PM


"Steve Barker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2/16/2012 3:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> Several 'close' answers on 2482. It's a chisel/punch holder. Not a stud
> remover. Fairly modern.
>
> --
> Steve Barker


This answer is correct.

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 4:37 PM

On 2/16/12 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2484 : Looks like an ultrasonic arrowhead. When the Seminole spotted
white hunters encroaching on their game preserves, they would fire a
whistling arrow over the heads of the game. Deaf to inaudible whistles,
the hunters would tell other whites that there was no game. If not for
the eternal vigilance of the Seminole, the Everglades Polar Bear might
have been hunted to extinction.

JW

"Jim Wilkins"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 5:46 PM


"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2/16/12 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>> Rob
> 2484 : Looks like an ultrasonic arrowhead. ...


It's the grenade launcher sight for a Flugelhorn.

jsw

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 6:11 AM

On 2/16/12 4:04 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2480 I wonder if it's for protection against electrostatic discharge.
Suppose you opened a metal box of blasting caps and needed to handle
them to make connections. In an arid environment, could ESD set them off?

A timber in contact with the soil, such as a railroad tie, might be
ideal because charges would drain slowly through the resistance of the
wood. It looks as if the awl would make a hole big enough to insert the
tapered pin, and the pin could be pushed in for a very firm connection.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 5:23 PM

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
> 2480 I wonder if it's for protection against electrostatic discharge.
> Suppose you opened a metal box of blasting caps and needed to handle them
> to make connections. In an arid environment, could ESD set them off?
>
> A timber in contact with the soil, such as a railroad tie, might be ideal
> because charges would drain slowly through the resistance of the wood. It
> looks as if the awl would make a hole big enough to insert the tapered
> pin, and the pin could be pushed in for a very firm connection.


Sounds like a reasonable use for it, though I haven't been able to verify
any of the guesses for this tool yet so I'm going to leave it unanswered for
now, I think someone will recognize it eventually and provide us with the
definitive answer.

The rest of them have all been identified this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/02/set-428.html#answers

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 6:16 PM

On 2/17/12 5:41 PM, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
> "Rob H."<[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> A timber in contact with the soil, such as a railroad tie, might be
>> ideal
>>> because charges would drain slowly through the resistance of the
>>> wood. It looks as if the awl would make a hole big enough to insert
>>> the tapered pin, and the pin could be pushed in for a very firm
>>> connection.
>>
>>
>> Sounds like a reasonable use for it, though I haven't been able to
>> verify any of the guesses for this tool yet so I'm going to leave it
>> unanswered for
>>
>
> My wife is a licensed blaster. I've gone through all of her catalogs,
> and the old Dupont Blaster's Handbook, and I cannot find any such tool in
> the hundreds that have been available over the decades.
>
> LLoyd

Did you see any ESD stuff? I think static is hazardous in the factory,
but it may not be of concern in the field.

I'm trying to imagine an activity where one might need to drain charges
through wood. Fueling? Operating an electronic instrument?

CG

"Carl G."

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 9:07 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

All guesses.

2479 My first impression was a flashlight that attaches to a fishing pole
(perhaps to see the pole bend while night fishing).

2480 The reamer and punch makes me think that it makes a hole in something
hard, like metal. The knurled nut and terminal makes me think it has to be
grounded sometimes, possibly for safety reasons (e.g., perhaps it might come
in contact with live wires). Perhaps its used to make holes in an aluminum
aircraft skin.

2481 Looks a lot like the tire bead-breaking tool that appeared in a
previous "What is it?".

2482 Possibly a handle from a tap/die set.

2483 Possibly a multipurpose concrete dressing tool (trowel, pick to pry up
old concrete, etc.).

2484 Possibly a soldering tip for a torch.

Carl G.

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

17/02/2012 3:55 AM

On 2012-02-16, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2479) A flashlight made to clamp onto a rod and illuminate parallel
to that rod. (It looks too small to clamp onto most rifle
barrels), which can be turned on by pulling one pin, and off
perhaps by pulling the second pin?

The pins need to be pulled at right angles to the rod to which
it is clamped.

There are provisions for removing the socket for the
(prefocused) bulb. I at first though that it would allow
focusing -- but the bulb contains the only lenses, so there is
little you could do to the focus by sliding the lamp forward or
back.

2480) It looks sort of like something designed to be screwed into a
tree trunk, and then to accept a candle on the straight spike
to illuminate a campsite or the like.

2481) Obviously to compress something. From the shape of the foot
I suspect that it may be for compressing a shoe during some
stage of gluing.

2482) A tool for aligning the front sight of a rifle, I think.

Otherwise, it could be to slide over a piece with drilled radial
holes and to serve as a wrench to turn that with the handle
screwed into one of the holes.

2483) Nasty looking thing.

The handle is above the surface which the blade slides on.

The corner appears to be to serve as a pivot for the blade.

And the spike to discourage kibitzers? :-)

2484) At first glance, it looks a bit like a dummy rifle round, for
testing the size of the chamber and the headspace, but the
supposed "bullet" is too small.

So it is perhaps a decorative tip for a flagstaff, with a sharp
point to encourage the marcher ahead to keep up the pace.

Now to post this, and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Erik

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 9:11 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hopefully someone will be able to answer the second item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2482, is a punch/chisel holder. here's the $nap-On equivalent:

<http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?search=true&item_ID=630624&PartN
o=PPC5A&group_id=675272&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all>

For the record, I have actually had one of these for eons now... got it
back when my brother in law was a Snap-On dealer... more of a novelty
than anything, and certainly not something to blow $40.00 on!

Only used it a time or two; the head part threads onto the threaded rod
protruding from the handle, and even with the jam nut tightened, always
seems to be coming loose. It's also big and hokey and nearly impossible
to hit straight... especially when used with larger chisels... the one's
you'd need it for the most.

Even with the little use I've given it, the red dipped plastic 'shock
absorber' (I guess you'd call it) thing has already had it.

Erik

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "Rob H." on 16/02/2012 4:04 AM

16/02/2012 7:20 PM


>
>> Fishing alarm is correct, it says patent pending but I couldn't find
> the
>> patent, do you happen to know the patent number from your father's
>> invention?

A friend of mine's dad was the Messler who invented the twisting bass hook.
It is still labeled "Messler Hook" on some of the Eagle Claw hook packages.

Steve

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