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sawdustmaker

10/11/2015 12:37 AM

Estate sale - lumber by the pound?

Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
WALNUT LUMBER
(Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb

NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)

WALNUT LUMBER
(50 Years in Storage)
(3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
8,000 ft
All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)

Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.

http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.


Anyone / everyone?


This topic has 15 replies

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Martin Eastburn

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 9:33 PM

Can walnut be wormy ? wood boors ? Wonder how it really is.
Redwood is said to be safe, but the sap wood isn't and a dry blank gets
holes.
So maybe walnut also.
Martin

On 11/10/2015 10:52 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 5:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
>> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
>> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
>> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
>> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>>
>> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>>
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (50 Years in Storage)
>> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
>> 8,000 ft
>> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
>> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>>
>> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the
>> pound.
>> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
>> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
>> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>> Anyone / everyone?
>>
> I think if the wood has been in storage for 50 years it's a safe bet
> that the wood has dried out in that time.
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 9:11 PM


"sawdustmaker" wrote:

> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the
> pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I
> had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
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38 lbs/ cubic ft sounds about right.

My guess is this is being driven by the auctioneer.

A fork lift and a scale is a lot faster than than a tape measure and a
calculator.

Lew







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Leon

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 7:29 PM

On 11/9/2015 6:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>
>
> Anyone / everyone?
>
Typically small chunks are sold by the pound.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 8:34 PM

On 11/9/2015 7:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>
>
> Anyone / everyone?
>

They give the approximate board feet so you know what the value of the
lot is if the entire lot is being sold. Perhaps the auction people
don't know how to compute board feet and figure smaller lots are easier
sold by the pound. Using your figures you have a good approximate
translation and can figure what you are willing to pay.

Given the 50 years in storage, unless it is a very damp area it should
be no more than average. Given 50 years in storage, I'd want to see
just how good it is. Improperly stored, lots can happen.

wn

woodchucker

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 8:45 PM

On 11/9/2015 7:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>
>
> Anyone / everyone?
>

Certainly I've never heard of by the pound. But it's an estate sale, not
a knowledgeable vendor.

--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 8:48 PM

On 11/9/2015 8:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/9/2015 7:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
>> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
>> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
>> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
>> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>>
>> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>>
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (50 Years in Storage)
>> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
>> 8,000 ft
>> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
>> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>>
>> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the
>> pound.
>> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
>> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>>
>> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
>> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>>
>>
>> Anyone / everyone?
>>
>
> They give the approximate board feet so you know what the value of the
> lot is if the entire lot is being sold. Perhaps the auction people
> don't know how to compute board feet and figure smaller lots are easier
> sold by the pound. Using your figures you have a good approximate
> translation and can figure what you are willing to pay.
>
> Given the 50 years in storage, unless it is a very damp area it should
> be no more than average. Given 50 years in storage, I'd want to see
> just how good it is. Improperly stored, lots can happen.

yep, I had a guy who was selling his dads stuff. The walnut was about 24
wide, and stored on the concrete. There was tons of stuff on it. I
didn't think it would be any good and we could not get the stuff off,
just too much. He wanted $300 for the boards (2).
I passed figuring that they were crap after being on the concrete.
You need to take a look at a few different pieces from different areas
and see how they look.

--
Jeff

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sawdustmaker

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 3:40 AM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 11/9/2015 6:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
>> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
>> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
>> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
>> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>>
>> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>>
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (50 Years in Storage)
>> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings
>> approx.
>> 8,000 ft
>> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
>> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>>
>> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the
>> pound. Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid
>> if I had a reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>>
>> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
>> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>>
>>
>> Anyone / everyone?
>>
> Typically small chunks are sold by the pound.

Here's the link
http://wichita.craigslist.org/bfd/5304756650.html

JM

John McCoy

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 6:39 PM

BenignBodger <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I've certainly bought wood by the pound but it has always been exotics
> like ebony, pink ivory, African blackwood, rosewood and the like in
> small turning or carving blanks. Walnut by the pound sounds crazy to
> me.

That's what I was going to say - by the pound is how turning
blanks are often sold.

35,000 board feet is a hell of a lot of lumber. I wonder
if they intend to sell it all in one lot?

John

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 11:02 PM

"sawdustmaker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Not sure how you could reasonably judge the price per board foot under those
conditions... maybe nobody else can either and you can get it for $.10/lb.
!!

The two band saws look interesting... the one looks like it might be a 36".

Sc

Sonny

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

11/11/2015 7:51 AM

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:33:19 PM UTC-6, Martin Eastburn wrote:
> Can walnut be wormy ? wood boors ? Wonder how it really is.
> Redwood is said to be safe, but the sap wood isn't and a dry blank gets=
=20
> holes.
> So maybe walnut also.
> Martin

Walnut is susceptible to powder post beetles.

Green walnut, especially if it still has the bark on it, is susceptible to =
other boring larvae/worms within the bark and sapwood. Case in point: M=
y latest trestle table project has what looks like PPB holes in the table t=
op boards' edges, and does have other larger larvae holes in the rootball s=
tock. Actually, when I was router-planing the rootball stock, I exposed se=
veral live large larvae, still within the wood. You can see those larger =
larvae holes and channels in the pics, in the outer edges or sapwood of the=
rootball stock:=20
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/20555817443/in/dateposted-publi=
c/

My rootball stock had been left out in the field for 2 yrs, before I though=
t to collect and use it for the table leg units, so the bugs had lots of ti=
me to get into that wood.

The log stock was milled shortly after the tree was felled, but the tree wa=
sn't in the greatest of shape when felled, so I'm not sure when the PPB-loo=
king holes were created in that stock.

Sonny

dn

dpb

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

09/11/2015 11:54 PM

On 11/09/2015 11:11 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "sawdustmaker" wrote:
>
>> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
>> Lumber Air Dried& in Storage for 50 years
>> Saw Mill Cut Into 2"& 3" Slabs also 1"& 2"
>> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>>
>> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>>
>> WALNUT LUMBER
>> (50 Years in Storage)
>> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
>> 8,000 ft
>> All in 12' or larger 1", 2"& 2 ? Inch Thick
>> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>>
>> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the
>> pound.
>> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I
>> had a
>> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>>
>> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
>> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 38 lbs/ cubic ft sounds about right.
>
> My guess is this is being driven by the auctioneer.
>
> A fork lift and a scale is a lot faster than than a tape measure and a
> calculator.
...

Reasonable guess I'd reckon...

The "1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb" doesn't make much sense, though;
that'd be roughly double the density it would seem. Wichita ain't that
far away, however...

--

BB

Bill

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 2:52 AM

sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> <snip:
> I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.

I strongly suspect you'll find that you'll get a better price on it by
buying it by the pound (or stack, or pallet-load, or whatever!) :)

Bill

Bn

BenignBodger

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 10:59 AM

On 11/9/2015 7:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
>
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
>
>
> Anyone / everyone?
>

I've certainly bought wood by the pound but it has always been exotics like
ebony, pink ivory, African blackwood, rosewood and the like in small
turning or carving blanks. Walnut by the pound sounds crazy to me.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

11/11/2015 2:04 PM

Sonny wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:33:19 PM UTC-6, Martin Eastburn
> wrote:
>> Can walnut be wormy ? wood boors ? Wonder how it really is.
>> Redwood is said to be safe, but the sap wood isn't and a dry blank
>> gets
>> holes.
>> So maybe walnut also.
>> Martin
>
> Walnut is susceptible to powder post beetles.
>
> Green walnut, especially if it still has the bark on it, is
> susceptible to other boring larvae/worms within the bark and sapwood.
> Case in point: My latest trestle table project has what looks like
> PPB holes in the table top boards' edges, and does have other larger
> larvae holes in the rootball stock. Actually, when I was
> router-planing the rootball stock, I exposed several live large
> larvae, still within the wood. You can see those larger larvae
> holes and channels in the pics, in the outer edges or sapwood of the
> rootball stock:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/20555817443/in/dateposted-public/
>
> My rootball stock had been left out in the field for 2 yrs, before I
> thought to collect and use it for the table leg units, so the bugs
> had lots of time to get into that wood.
>
> The log stock was milled shortly after the tree was felled, but the
> tree wasn't in the greatest of shape when felled, so I'm not sure
> when the PPB-looking holes were created in that stock.
>
> Sonny

Lawsy, looks like dry land teredo holes :) Doesn't look bad though, sort
of in character.

JW

Just Wondering

in reply to sawdustmaker on 10/11/2015 12:37 AM

10/11/2015 9:52 AM

On 11/9/2015 5:37 PM, sawdustmaker wrote:
> Saw this on a Craigslist ad:
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (Approx. 35,000 bd ft)
> Lumber Air Dried & in Storage for 50 years
> Saw Mill Cut Into 2" & 3" Slabs also 1" & 2"
> 1 x 6 -- 2' Planed weigh's 8 lb
>
> NOTE: Lumber will be sold by the # (pound)
>
> WALNUT LUMBER
> (50 Years in Storage)
> (3) Pile equal 27,000 bd ft plus lumber in out buildings approx.
> 8,000 ft
> All in 12' or larger 1", 2" & 2 ? Inch Thick
> 300/400' Aromatic Cedar (1 Pallet)
>
> Don't quite know what to make of it. I've never heard of wood by the pound.
> Moisture content would be one unknown. I'd be tempted to bid if I had a
> reasonable guess of lbs/bd. ft.
> http://www.bellforestproducts.com/info/popups/average-dry-weight/?s=6
> sezs 38 lbs/cubic ft. = 38/12=3.166 lbs bd. ft.
> Anyone / everyone?
>
I think if the wood has been in storage for 50 years it's a safe bet
that the wood has dried out in that time.


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