When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
prefer vacuums.
I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make the
system worthless?
Puckdropper
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On 4/13/2012 5:17 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 3:03 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more
>> effort to
>> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
>> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
>> prefer vacuums.
>>
>> I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
>> might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
>>
>> Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make
>> the
>> system worthless?
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
> I run my 4" DC hose to my 12" disk sander. OSSander, router table and
> the other big stuff. I have no issues with containing dust from the
> sanders. And rather than drag any vac hose to take care of the floors I
> sweep with a 18" wide broom and suck up the pile with the 4" DC hose.
>
> I am not sure why you would have or would be having a problem with using
> a DC to collect sander dust unless you have decreased effinency with too
> many sharp turns in you system. I personally strictly use a 30 foot 4"
> flex hose, that's it.
Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that you
used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
Max
On 4/13/2012 3:32 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 3:30 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 1:51 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2012 1:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary
>>>>> tools.
>>>>
>>>> And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as
>>>> my PC
>>>> 557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah that too.... Now what is a PC 557? I have one, I just don't use it.
>>
>> There's this thing called eBay. It's where you can sell your old stuff
>> to make money to buy new stuff.
>>
>
> Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It's also rip-off city...
On 4/13/2012 3:30 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 1:51 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 1:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that
>>>>> you
>>>>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary
>>>> tools.
>>>
>>> And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as my PC
>>> 557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
>>>
>>
>> Yeah that too.... Now what is a PC 557? I have one, I just don't use it.
>
> There's this thing called eBay. It's where you can sell your old stuff
> to make money to buy new stuff.
>
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
In article <[email protected]>,
Puckdropper says...
>
> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
> prefer vacuums.
>
> I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
> might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
>
> Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make the
> system worthless?
Not really a lot of point to it if you have a dust collector. Use a 2-
1/2 inch adapter and it will take vacuum cleaner hose and accessories
and mine picks up just fine. Of course I overkilled it a bit . . .
Won't hurt though. I'd run 2-1/2 inch pipe, same size as a standard
shop vac hose.
Dunno where people get the idea that dust collectors aren't good at
vacuum tasks. With a 25 amp 220v induction motor doing the sucking mine
does "vacuum tasks" better than my "6 peak horsepower" shop vac ever
did. I know all the crap about volume vs velocity. In the real world
it doesn't make much difference.
On 4/13/2012 1:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>
>
>>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that you
>>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>>
>>> Max
>>
>> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary tools.
>
> And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as my PC
> 557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
>
Yeah that too.... Now what is a PC 557? I have one, I just don't use it.
On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that you
>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>
>> Max
>
> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary tools.
And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as my PC
557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
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On 4/13/2012 3:03 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
> prefer vacuums.
>
> I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
> might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
>
> Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make the
> system worthless?
>
> Puckdropper
I run my 4" DC hose to my 12" disk sander. OSSander, router table and
the other big stuff. I have no issues with containing dust from the
sanders. And rather than drag any vac hose to take care of the floors
I sweep with a 18" wide broom and suck up the pile with the 4" DC hose.
I am not sure why you would have or would be having a problem with using
a DC to collect sander dust unless you have decreased effinency with too
many sharp turns in you system. I personally strictly use a 30 foot 4"
flex hose, that's it.
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:11:29 -0700, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4/13/2012 1:03 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
>> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
>> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
>> prefer vacuums.
>
>
>I think it's a great idea. A DC of any size will do a fine job on a
>reduced sized line.
>
>Our old friends have a good solution...
>
>http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=62597&cat=1,42401&ap=1
>
>I have on many occasions really hating dragging a big ass shop vac
>all over the shop, when with a little plumbing, that problem could be
>easily fixed. I have a VERY large DC that has plenty of power to handle
>almost any length run. I just need to get in there and start plumbing.
Is that a _real_ grounding kit I saw hiding in there?
--
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-- Margaret Lee Runbeck
On 4/13/2012 1:03 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
> prefer vacuums.
I think it's a great idea. A DC of any size will do a fine job on a
reduced sized line.
Our old friends have a good solution...
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=62597&cat=1,42401&ap=1
I have on many occasions really hating dragging a big ass shop vac
all over the shop, when with a little plumbing, that problem could be
easily fixed. I have a VERY large DC that has plenty of power to handle
almost any length run. I just need to get in there and start plumbing.
On 4/13/2012 1:51 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 1:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that you
>>>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>
>>> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary tools.
>>
>> And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as my PC
>> 557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
>>
>
> Yeah that too.... Now what is a PC 557? I have one, I just don't use it.
There's this thing called eBay. It's where you can sell your old stuff to make
money to buy new stuff.
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sparse, will expand to fill all available lanes.
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On 4/13/2012 3:32 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 3:30 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 1:51 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2012 1:07 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2012 12:56 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary
>>>>> tools.
>>>>
>>>> And works absolutely great for my Kreg pocket hole jig, as well as my PC
>>>> 557 (which you would expect, being Domino like).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah that too.... Now what is a PC 557? I have one, I just don't use it.
>>
>> There's this thing called eBay. It's where you can sell your old stuff
>> to make money to buy new stuff.
>>
>
> Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
:-)
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(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
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On 4/13/2012 3:51 PM, Richard wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 3:32 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 3:30 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
...
>>> There's this thing called eBay. It's where you can sell your old stuff
>>> to make money to buy new stuff.
>>>
>>
>> Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
>
> It's also rip-off city...
Perhaps, but I've never had that be an issue...I've bought stuff from a
40-ft JLG manlift for $5k to antique glass balls to replace broken ones
on the old lightning rods on the barn to as trivial a thing as a "just
cute" curlicue door/gate handle for $2.
Basically all I have done to avoid trouble is to check that the seller
has a good reputation and not expect miracles for bargains (and ask
specific questions on larger things like the lift).
Not to say they're aren't sharks in the waters and charlatans that'll
take you if you give them a chance, but that's so even in a brick 'n
mortar store on occasion and certainly if indiscriminate online.
--
On 4/13/2012 9:54 AM, Max wrote:
> On 4/13/2012 5:17 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 4/13/2012 3:03 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more
>>> effort to
>>> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
>>> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
>>> prefer vacuums.
>>>
>>> I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
>>> might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
>>>
>>> Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make
>>> the
>>> system worthless?
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>
>> I run my 4" DC hose to my 12" disk sander. OSSander, router table and
>> the other big stuff. I have no issues with containing dust from the
>> sanders. And rather than drag any vac hose to take care of the floors I
>> sweep with a 18" wide broom and suck up the pile with the 4" DC hose.
>>
>> I am not sure why you would have or would be having a problem with using
>> a DC to collect sander dust unless you have decreased effinency with too
>> many sharp turns in you system. I personally strictly use a 30 foot 4"
>> flex hose, that's it.
>
> Not to belabor the issue, Leon, but I was under the impression that you
> used Festool's infamous dust "extractors". ;-)
>
> Max
Only attached to Festool power tools, not bench top or stationary tools.
I agree that there is no point to it.
I have a vac system and it is piped to every tool. It works on all tools
except for table saw and miter saw (RIP).
I built a modified Thiene (sp?) collector.
I don't see a need for you to do both. Your DC should be fine.
I did add my own self cleaning blast gates and also build my own
switches so when I open a gate it fires the Vac. Man did this help out.
On 4/13/2012 6:49 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Puckdropper says...
>>
>> When I run my dust collection lines, it'll be only a little more effort to
>> run a smaller line (1 1/2" maybe 2") next to it for a vacuum. Dust
>> collectors aren't really good at vacuum tasks, and the sanders seem to
>> prefer vacuums.
>>
>> I've got a Ridgid WD1450 that would probably be used to power this, but
>> might consider something else if the pricing makes sense.
>>
>> Does this seem like a good idea, or would the piping restrictions make the
>> system worthless?
>
> Not really a lot of point to it if you have a dust collector. Use a 2-
> 1/2 inch adapter and it will take vacuum cleaner hose and accessories
> and mine picks up just fine. Of course I overkilled it a bit . . .
>
> Won't hurt though. I'd run 2-1/2 inch pipe, same size as a standard
> shop vac hose.
>
> Dunno where people get the idea that dust collectors aren't good at
> vacuum tasks. With a 25 amp 220v induction motor doing the sucking mine
> does "vacuum tasks" better than my "6 peak horsepower" shop vac ever
> did. I know all the crap about volume vs velocity. In the real world
> it doesn't make much difference.