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"Rob H."

08/09/2011 4:19 AM

What is it? Set 405

I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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Sonny

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 5:34 AM


> 2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin,
> jic the person was still alive.


And the hooks, on each end, would be attached to a "cord" to pull
(from the inside) and to ring a bell (on the outside), hence, saved by
the bell.

Sonny

SW

"Steve W."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 7:23 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2341 - Looks like a cobblers sole clamp.

2342 - Tumbler media?

2343 - Device used by people who are worried they could be buried alive?

2344 -

2345 - Old pickle fork style tool. The other end is the striking face.

2346 - Scraper. Takes a blade between the two parts and has different
shaped blades depending on what you're scraping.


--
Steve W.

hm

humunculus

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 6:44 AM

On Sep 8, 8:34=A0pm, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin=
,
> > jic the person was still alive.
>
> And the hooks, on each end, would be attached to a "cord" to pull
> (from the inside) and to ring a bell (on the outside), hence, saved by
> the bell.
>
> Sonny

..just in case they were a 'dead ringer'.

2344 is the button on the bottom of a stapler to rotate the plate and
change the direction of the bend.

hm

humunculus

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 6:46 AM

On Sep 8, 8:34=A0pm, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin=
,
> > jic the person was still alive.
>
> And the hooks, on each end, would be attached to a "cord" to pull
> (from the inside) and to ring a bell (on the outside), hence, saved by
> the bell.
>
> Sonny

Always thought 'saved by the bell' was a boxing term...

Nn

"Nick"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 11:36 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2341. I'm guessing at a tool for fixing crimps onto the likes of webbing
(military?). Possibly a cobblers tool, perhaps a saddlers. Finely made
though, and it won't be coming apart or losing any bits. The opposing
threads look very good.

2346. Pure guess, a plumbers tool for shaping /manipulating lead
sheet/flashing or pipe. Probably a million miles off. I think the retaining
ring is a red herring, this ring would probably not survive long in use and
I can't realise how the ring may serve any useful purpose. Nicely made tool,
perhaps too posh for a plumbers bag. Damnation, I have seen this before but
cannot remember what it is. Another senior moment.

Just my tuppence worth.
Nick.

js

jim <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net>

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 10:43 AM



PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
>
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
> >
> > The sledge hammer/claw device looks like a BIG version of a tie rod end
> > separator. I'm guessing that the hammer was not for hitting, but to BE
> > hit
> > by another sledge while another operator held the parting fork on the
> > work.
> >
> > Perhaps (and especially due to the angle), this was used to pull bolts or
> > rivets out of large iron work.
> >
>
> I would guess railroad spikes.

I would guess it is either a special made pickle fork for separating ball
joints or it is a special made break-off hammer used at a foundry for
separating gating components from castings.

tk

tnik

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 7:32 AM

On 9/8/2011 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin,
jic the person was still alive.

2346: type of scraper, the part that flips down and is held by the ring
would hold the 'knife' in place.

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

09/09/2011 8:31 PM

That is a smooth side and a tooth side clamp used in
Taxidermy. Teeth are for making either a firm grip - but at
the same time it makes threading holes.

Not a toy.

Should see the hand tool I have - pliers with wide
bed of nail grippers.

Martin

On 9/9/2011 8:37 AM, humunculus wrote:
> On Sep 8, 4:19 pm, "Rob H."<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2341: The quality of the steel makes me think this is some sort of
> surgical tool, possibly for holding a large opening closed without
> stitches or holding two bone segments or two muscles together.
>

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 6:52 AM

On 9/8/2011 3:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
2342 Polishing stones to remove flashing from cast parts.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 7:30 AM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

The sledge hammer/claw device looks like a BIG version of a tie rod end
separator. I'm guessing that the hammer was not for hitting, but to BE hit
by another sledge while another operator held the parting fork on the work.

Perhaps (and especially due to the angle), this was used to pull bolts or
rivets out of large iron work.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 6:40 PM

J Burns <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:j4besl$c00$1@dont-
email.me:

> I wonder how they bend bamboo tines at Jake's Rake Repair Center. You
> could bend the end of the tine in this clamp and soak the end of the
> clamp in a pan of water, upside down from what's pictured. When it
> dries, you should have a tine with a hooked end.
>
>

Bamboo and cane are bent by application of heat (usually a gas flame),
not water. They are innately _loaded_ with water as they come out of the
ground, and don't tend to distort much either when completely dry or when
re-moistened.

Thats why (if you remember) the best slide rules (back in the day) were
made of bamboo. It was dimensionally stable at pretty much all moisture
contents.

LLoyd

Kw

KentWalker

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 12:43 PM

2342: Whisky stones.

Rob - stop using images which can be found via TinEye.

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 5:29 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

2343 Fuzes for landmines.

hm

humunculus

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

09/09/2011 6:37 AM

On Sep 8, 4:19=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2341: The quality of the steel makes me think this is some sort of
surgical tool, possibly for holding a large opening closed without
stitches or holding two bone segments or two muscles together.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 8:24 AM

Rob H. wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


2341 Used on a politician to keep his mouth shut.

--
Gerald Ross

It's easy to be brave from a safe distance.





BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 12:33 PM

On 9/8/2011 8:24 AM, Gerald Ross wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2341 Used on a politician to keep his mouth shut.
>

2346: a "scraper" with replaceable blades (missing)?

Bill

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 3:28 PM


"tnik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 9/8/2011 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin,
> jic the person was still alive.

Nope

> 2346: type of scraper, the part that flips down and is held by the ring
> would hold the 'knife' in place.

I think this is probably correct but haven't been able to prove it.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 3:30 PM


"humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4a4135fc-9edc-4c72-9729-73df1f5fc2e7@a14g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 8, 8:34 pm, Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 2343: looks like a device they would attach in the old days to a coffin,
> > jic the person was still alive.
>
> And the hooks, on each end, would be attached to a "cord" to pull
> (from the inside) and to ring a bell (on the outside), hence, saved by
> the bell.
>
> Sonny

..just in case they were a 'dead ringer'.

2344 is the button on the bottom of a stapler to rotate the plate and
change the direction of the bend.

Correct, one is a Stanley and the other a Swingline stapler.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 3:32 PM


"PrecisionmachinisT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> The sledge hammer/claw device looks like a BIG version of a tie rod end
>> separator. I'm guessing that the hammer was not for hitting, but to BE
>> hit
>> by another sledge while another operator held the parting fork on the
>> work.
>>
>> Perhaps (and especially due to the angle), this was used to pull bolts or
>> rivets out of large iron work.
>>
>
> I would guess railroad spikes.

Railroad spike puller is correct, as Lloyd said it was hit on the other end
to loosen them.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 3:36 PM


"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> writes:
>>I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>>
>>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>
> 2343 Fuzes for landmines.


Good answer, they work similar to landmines but the application is
different.

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 6:16 PM

On 9/8/11 7:32 AM, tnik wrote:
> On 9/8/2011 4:19 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>

> 2346: type of scraper, the part that flips down and is held by the ring
> would hold the 'knife' in place.
It looks as if a scraper blade would wiggle and push the device open.

I wonder how they bend bamboo tines at Jake's Rake Repair Center. You
could bend the end of the tine in this clamp and soak the end of the
clamp in a pan of water, upside down from what's pictured. When it
dries, you should have a tine with a hooked end.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 7:43 PM

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
> 2346. Pure guess, a plumbers tool for shaping /manipulating lead
> sheet/flashing or pipe. Probably a million miles off. I think the
> retaining ring is a red herring, this ring would probably not survive long
> in use and I can't realise how the ring may serve any useful purpose.


The ring clamps the other two parts together and possibly holds a blade, the
image below is a close-up of the under side of the pivoting piece, there are
some marks that may have come from a scraper that was held there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/pic2346d.jpg

The owner said that he was surprised that the ring was still with the tool
and not lost, but it does fit very tightly and does not come off easily.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

09/09/2011 5:30 PM

>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/



> 2341 - Looks like a cobblers sole clamp.


That's it! The tool is for holding leather over a shoe mold when attaching
the sole. Still don't know for sure what the last one is but the rest of
the answers can be seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/09/set-405.html#answers


Rob

RS

"R. Scanlon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 8:02 PM

In article
<[email protected]>,
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com>
wrote:

> Bamboo and cane are bent by application of heat (usually a gas flame),
> not water. They are innately _loaded_ with water as they come out of the
> ground, and don't tend to distort much either when completely dry or when
> re-moistened.
>
> Thats why (if you remember) the best slide rules (back in the day) were
> made of bamboo. It was dimensionally stable at pretty much all moisture
> contents.
>
> LLoyd

Thanks, Lloyd, I always wondered about that. But it's been
so long I'd forgotten to wonder.

--
Ray Scanlon

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

09/09/2011 1:13 AM

On 2011-09-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I could use some assistance with the last item in this set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2341) Some sort of clamp to hold perhaps wood together for
gluing or perhaps bolting/screwing together. Given the teeth,
it is certainly not intended to be used on furniture or other
exposed/decorative surfaces.

2342) They look a bit large for the purpose, but it could be something
like "boiling chips" intended to be used in the bottom of a test
tube or beaker to provide nucleation sources so you don't wind
up with superheated water suddenly bursting into steam and
harming people nearby -- including the experimenter. (This
problem happens most with really clean surfaces, and distilled
or at least deionized water. (Can happen with water heated in a
*very* clean coffee cup in a microwave too. Nothing happens
until you put something into the water after it rises above
normal boiling temperature -- sprinkle in some sugar or salt, or
reach in with a spoon to stir it.)

2343) These look like something to exchange stale air for fresh in
underground compartments. The second one, in particular, looks
designed to provide breathing air to someone perhaps
accidentally buried alive, given the coffin shown in the
drawing.

Perhaps it also pops up a signal to indicate that "the stiff" is
not quite that stiff and would like out, please. :-)

2344) These look vastly different in scale, (not provided), which
makes identification more difficult.

The first almost looks like a magnet on the back of something
for mounting to a metal surface. (Another view might help.)

The second looks a bit too small for the first guess of it being
a pie crimper. Perhaps it is intended to roll and mark a
surface.

But other than the fact that both are photographs (and puzzle
entries), they seem to have nothing in common.

2345) Hmm ... I think that this *could* be used for removing the
railroad spikes and clamp plates normally used to clamp rails to
wooden ties. Put the ends of the fork under the plate, holding
the handle in the left hand, and using the right hand to swing
another sledge hammer to drive it under the plate and around the
spike.

2346) First -- a question: Is the oval ring steel or rubber?

If steel, it could be used to lock the two parts together to
grip something -- perhaps akin to the pop tabs on beverage cans.
Or it could be to hold a tin can over a flame for rough cooking.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"PrecisionmachinisT"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/09/2011 4:19 AM

08/09/2011 7:23 AM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> The sledge hammer/claw device looks like a BIG version of a tie rod end
> separator. I'm guessing that the hammer was not for hitting, but to BE
> hit
> by another sledge while another operator held the parting fork on the
> work.
>
> Perhaps (and especially due to the angle), this was used to pull bolts or
> rivets out of large iron work.
>

I would guess railroad spikes.


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