O.T. (totally, but don't know who else to ask!)

Thanks, JT, that's the one! (When all else fails, ask on the Wreck!)
But, Buick-shmuick, Tommy Ivo's only had 32 cylinders; this one had 96,
and 2 plugs per cylinder!

Limey Lurker wrote:
> I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
> Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find is
> Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
> successfully search,please?

Usenet has a large heirarchy under rec.autos...

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"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message

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>> Thanks, JT, that's the one! (When all else fails, ask on the Wreck!)
>> But, Buick-shmuick, Tommy Ivo's only had 32 cylinders; this one had 96,
> >and 2 plugs per cylinder!

>HUH? 4 times 12 was 48 when I went to school.

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Well, I thought they were V24s, like the one George Barris fitted to
his trike. I do remember the magazine article pointed out the 94
visible exhaust pipes; 2 were invisible bacause they were routed under
the body.

Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 1:55pm (EDT-3) [email protected]
(Limey=A0Lurker) mumbled:
I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find is
Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
successfully search,please?

google
Quad Al
Jim Lytle
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/5521/picture0100pm.jpg

Anyway, Tommy Ivo used four Buick engines.



JOAT
The Truth Shall Set Ye Fred

"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
> Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find is
> Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
> successfully search,please?

I don't recall a dragster, but there was Mickey Thompson's four engine land
speed record car. He used Pontiac engines with blowers
http://www.nhra.com/museum/features/feature19.html


Art Arfon's Green Monster had an Allison engine
http://www.thrustssc.com/thrustssc/Club/Secure/Art_Arfons.html

http://www.landracing.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=AAGMP1&Category_Code=SRPC

I cannot imagine a dragster with four Allisons given the size of the
engines.
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Limey Lurker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm trying to find information and pictures of the
> 4-Allison-engined Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times
> but all I can find is Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone
> suggest where I might successfully search,please?

If Google doesn't help then I'd suggest posting in alt.fan.cecil-adams.
Even if no-one there can help, the ensuing discussion might be
interesting. :-)

Allen Epps <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
>> Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find
>> is Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
>> successfully search,please?
>
> Wow, I did a bunch of searching and all I found is references to
> various drivers, the builders and owners of the Ivo machine. Are you
> sure it was a drag car and not one of the Land Speed Record cars?

No, it was a dragster (at least, that was the idea - it was actually
a colossal failure, being far too heavy and vastly underpowered, it
could barely get out of it's own way). It today's terminology it
would be called a funny car, since it featured a VW Beetle "body"
on a purpose-built chassis.

Consider that the car weighed about 7000 lbs (4 allisons alone
weigh 5600 lbs, and the chassis on the thing would have been more
suitable for a tractor), propelled by a measly 5200 hp, and you
can see the problem (a modern top-fuel dragster weighs around
2000lbs, and gets about 6500 hp from it's engine).

John

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

>"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
>>Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find is
>>Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
>>successfully search,please?
>>
>>
>
>I don't recall a dragster, but there was Mickey Thompson's four engine land
>speed record car. He used Pontiac engines with blowers
>http://www.nhra.com/museum/features/feature19.html
>
>
>Art Arfon's Green Monster had an Allison engine
>http://www.thrustssc.com/thrustssc/Club/Secure/Art_Arfons.html
>
>http://www.landracing.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=AAGMP1&Category_Code=SRPC
>
>I cannot imagine a dragster with four Allisons given the size of the
>engines.
>
>
Don't forget Goldenrod.

"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks, JT, that's the one! (When all else fails, ask on the Wreck!)
> But, Buick-shmuick, Tommy Ivo's only had 32 cylinders; this one had 96,
> and 2 plugs per cylinder!
>
HUH? 4 times 12 was 48 when I went to school.

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The greatest headaches are those we cause ourselves.

"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:16:37 -0400, "Norman D. Crow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Thanks, JT, that's the one! (When all else fails, ask on the Wreck!)
>>> But, Buick-shmuick, Tommy Ivo's only had 32 cylinders; this one had 96,
>>> and 2 plugs per cylinder!
>>>
>>HUH? 4 times 12 was 48 when I went to school.
>
> He probably meant valves.
>
> --
> LRod

Actually, I believe it was 96 spark plugs and 192 valves. If you see one in
a pulling tractor, there are 12 straight exhaust stacks on each bank,
indicating 2 exhaust valves per cylinder, and more than likely 2 intakes per
cylinder as well.
http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/aero_engines/engine_specs/Allison/engine.jpg

shows one without stacks, but you can count 6 "paired" exhaust ports down
the side.

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm trying to find information and pictures of the 4-Allison-engined
> Dragster from the '60s; I've DAGS loads of times but all I can find is
> Tommy Ivo, and it's not him. Can anyone suggest where I might
> successfully search,please?

Wow, I did a bunch of searching and all I found is references to various
drivers, the builders and owners of the Ivo machine. Are you sure it was
a drag car and not one of the Land Speed Record cars?

Allen

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:05:03 -0400, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Actually, I believe it was 96 spark plugs and 192 valves. If you see one in
>a pulling tractor, there are 12 straight exhaust stacks on each bank,
>indicating 2 exhaust valves per cylinder, and more than likely 2 intakes per
>cylinder as well.
>http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/aero_engines/engine_specs/Allison/engine.jpg
>
>shows one without stacks, but you can count 6 "paired" exhaust ports down
>the side.

Well, you're right. I didn't realize that was a DOHC,
four-valves-per-cylinder powerplant.

Here's a really thorough treatise:
http://www.unlimitedexcitement.com/Miss%20US/Allison%20V1710%20Engine.htm

gawd, I love the internet.

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:16:37 -0400, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Limey Lurker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Thanks, JT, that's the one! (When all else fails, ask on the Wreck!)
>> But, Buick-shmuick, Tommy Ivo's only had 32 cylinders; this one had 96,
>> and 2 plugs per cylinder!
>>
>HUH? 4 times 12 was 48 when I went to school.

He probably meant valves.

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LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997