Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
IE ver 8.
Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
website wants to run the default file description string from
Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
phone apps. I don't got no apps.
Any help?
Thanks a heap,
-Zz
"Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
On 8/16/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:31:51 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/15/2011 11:09 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>>> Twayne wrote:
>
>>> And Norton STILL interferes with installation of 3rd party software and the
>>> pitiful thing is NORTON DOESN'T TELL you it refused to install necessary
>>> components of third party software!
>>>
>>> Fuckers should die from some loathsome venereal disease involving festering,
>>> fungating, squishy-sounding carbuncles.
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>> The problem with Norton is that it is only a purchased name and product
>> that is no longer being developed. For he last several years it has
>> been a patched version of the original. Every year a new patch
>> disguised under the name of Norton 20xx. Every few years or so the
>> patch looks good then there are the not so good years.
>> When Symantic bought Norton, the original PcTools, that great FAX
>> program, for got the name, GoBack, etc it was all down hill from.there,
>
> Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
> Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
> day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
> name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
CentralPoint PCTools.
> IMHO, Slymantic Norton products are absolute shit. Ptui!
>
> The only product on the market with the Norton name should be the
> removal tool. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
>
> --
> Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
> -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
On 8/14/2011 8:23 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 8/13/2011 8:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Ditto. I moved from AVG to Avast, which _really_ slowed my computer,
>> then to Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Wait a sec, the wording of your reply makes it sound like moving from
> AVG to Avast slowed down your computer. Clarify?
No kidding ... inquiring minds.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
> years has given me no false hits.
>
> As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with it though as if
> this is a virus in your boot sector, once it finishes its scan, the
> program will need you to reboot so it can scan your start up files.
> Then it will finish up.
>
> No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things others won't.
> Don't be afraid of the free stuff (remember though, they *love* an
> donation or actual purchase!) as it turns out most of the free stuff
> like AVAST, AVG, and Trend Micro test nearly as good or better than
> Norton and McAfee.
>
> They also take less resources from your machine, and if you delete
> them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of Norton..... I have had
> it on twice on two different machines, and it can't even uninstall
> itself. There are bomb fragments all over the machine when you
> uninstall, and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still loads
> remnants (or at least try to) of the program.
>
> McAfee..... two commercial versions later, and too many false
> positives to count. Both programs are bloated larger than the
> Hindenburg, and while they test out well in most cases, you will find
> the tests are run on newer machines with a lot of available
> resources. If your machine is older, say more than a couple of years,
> those two programs will slow your machine considerably.
>
> Good luck, Zz. It sounds like this is an easy fix.
>
> Robert
>
I used AVG for many years. They kept wanting me to upgrade to a paid
subscription. It used to be really good and used often for a cheap business
application. When I couldn't continue to get the free version, even though
they promised it. I tried to erase it from my computer. Then it whined and
complained and said if I really, really wanted a free version, they would
let me have it. Assuming that was true, they lied to me about it being
free. I went and looked on line and found out it had become very bloated,
resource hungry and not anywhere as good as it used to be. That made up my
mind.
I went looking. I found AVAST. They have a free version and a paid
version. And they don't harass you if you choose the free version. It
works good. No problems of any kind from it. Another vote for AVAST. After
many happy years with AVG, I am an AVAST man. AVG drove me away.
I don't have a solution for you but I too
have been bombarded with =3D
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON
Does anyone know how I can remove this ?
I have a Mac with a Safari browser.
Thanks,
Smitty
######################################
On Aug 13, 7:29=A0am, Zz Yzx <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>
> IE ver 8.
>
> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
> website wants to run the default file description string from
> Intellisync Corporation". =A0EVERY WEBSITE. =A0EVERY TIME.
>
> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
> phone apps. =A0I don't got no apps.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks a heap,
> -Zz
> "Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.http://www.aba=
ndonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:17:04 -0500, "HeyBub" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>>
>> IE ver 8.
>>
>> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
>> website wants to run the default file description string from
>> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>>
>> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
>> phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> Thanks a heap,
>> -Zz
>> "Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
>> http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
>
>You're infected with some malware. Try first downloading and running
>Microsoft's Security Essentials. It's free and pretty good.
>
>Note: A complete scan of your system may take from 12 to 20 hours.
>
You also could try Norton Power Eraser, it got rid of a persistant bit
of malware that I had trouble with in the past. It was a free download
on Norton's site.
On 8/13/2011 6:11 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
>> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
>> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
>> years has given me no false hits.
>> I went looking. I found AVAST. They have a free version and a paid
> version. And they don't harass you if you choose the free version. It
> works good. No problems of any kind from it. Another vote for AVAST.
> After many happy years with AVG, I am an AVAST man. AVG drove me away.
My AVG expires in November and I'd already decided to bail ... enough is
enough.
They remind me of Intuit or Corel.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
>> website wants to run the default file description string from
>> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>>
>
> Thanks for the responses. I found the problem, thanks to J. Clarke.
>
> Over a month ago, I installed a program that linked my Quicken
> bill-pay reminders to Outlook. I never got around to configuring it.
> And why it only started causing the pop-up issue 2-3 days ago is a
> mystery to me.
>
> Anyway, I unistalled the program and all is well.
>
> Thanks again.
>
Ah, so it wasn't "malware," it was "malapplication."
Still, prudence dictates a robust virus and malware checker.
On 8/16/2011 12:22 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:07:15 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/16/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>> Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
>>> Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
>>> day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
>>> name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
>>
>> A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
>> CentralPoint PCTools.
>
> Yeah, it was alright, too. But _now_ look who owns it. Slymantec.
> I'll bet they ruined -it-, too.
They acquired it back when Win 95 came out, Norton Navigator copied it
and another popular file manager. Then they ditched it like several
other industry leading softare's
There is a current PCTools however I don't think it is the same.
> --
> ...in order that a man may be happy, it is
> necessary that he should not only be capable
> of his work, but a good judge of his work.
> -- John Ruskin
I don't touch anything Norton anymore.
Try removing the trialware from your system. I had to format my HDD to get
rid of it a few years back. Worst virus I have ever had and harder to get
rid of and it slowed my system quite noticeably. Maybe they have smartened
up after the bad press they got for that one.
------
"Markem" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
You also could try Norton Power Eraser, it got rid of a persistant bit
of malware that I had trouble with in the past. It was a free download
on Norton's site.
On 8/16/2011 2:29 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
>> CentralPoint PCTools.
> ------------------------------
> I was also a PC Tools fan.
>
> SFWIW, found Power Desk from Avanquest to be a good replacement.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
I used Power Desk for years until It and Norton did not play well.
If you want an infinitely adjustable file manager.. look at Directory Opus.
I found Dopus about 3 years ago.
If you like file managers, this one will do just about anything you wish
and you can make it look just like you want. And you can configure and
save listers/configurations to open in a multitude of ways for specific
things you might want to do with it. I HIGHLY recommend it. Worth a
look with a 60 day free trial.
http://www.gpsoft.com.au/
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>
> IE ver 8.
>
> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
> website wants to run the default file description string from
> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>
> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
> phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>
> Any help?
Did you at any time have Yahoo Autosync installed--it's Intellisync
based and would have installed the DLL. If so, see if you can uninstall
autosync.
If that fails try Microsoft Security Essentials. It isn't very thorugh
but it's free.
If that doesn't find anything, try Malwarebytes
<http://www.malwarebytes.org/> and Prevx <http://www.prevx.com/>.
If they don't work it's time to try to find somebody at Nokia who knows
what's going on (Nokia bought out Intellisync a while back).
Just as a history note, Intellisync in its original form existed to
synchronize Microsoft Outlook contact information and appointments and
whatnot with the original Palm Pilot and its descendants. Was actually
a pretty good product. The developers branched out to support other
devices, and the Palm market kind of went away, hence the eventual
takeover by Nokia.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> >Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
> >website wants to run the default file description string from
> >Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
> >
>
> Thanks for the responses. I found the problem, thanks to J. Clarke.
>
> Over a month ago, I installed a program that linked my Quicken
> bill-pay reminders to Outlook. I never got around to configuring it.
> And why it only started causing the pop-up issue 2-3 days ago is a
> mystery to me.
>
> Anyway, I unistalled the program and all is well.
Thanks for letting us know how it turned out, and glad to be of service.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 8/16/2011 12:22 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:07:15 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/16/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> >
> >>> Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
> >>> Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
> >>> day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
> >>> name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
> >>
> >> A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
> >> CentralPoint PCTools.
> >
> > Yeah, it was alright, too. But _now_ look who owns it. Slymantec.
> > I'll bet they ruined -it-, too.
>
> They acquired it back when Win 95 came out, Norton Navigator copied it
> and another popular file manager. Then they ditched it like several
> other industry leading softare's
>
> There is a current PCTools however I don't think it is the same.
>
> ==================
>
> With MS putting out two excellent virus scanners these out-of-date companies
> will be out of business soon, anyway.
Which "two excellent virus scanners" would those be? Microsoft security
essentials has little performance overhead but it's not terribly
effective either. Is Microsoft Safety Scanner any better?
> Why would people pay for something that is much better free? They are more
> settable and completely transparent and limit their CPU usage by user
> control. They update twice per day sometimes.
Yeah, but they don't find or block stuff that the better commercial
products do block.
Note that I do not consider any Norton product to be "the better
commercial products".
On 8/13/2011 1:17 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> Zz Yzx wrote:
>> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>>
>> IE ver 8.
>>
>> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
>> website wants to run the default file description string from
>> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>>
>> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
>> phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> Thanks a heap,
>> -Zz
>> "Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
>> http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
>
> You're infected with some malware. Try first downloading and running
> Microsoft's Security Essentials. It's free and pretty good.
>
> Note: A complete scan of your system may take from 12 to 20 hours.
>
>
Malwarebytes and Avast are both pretty good freebees.
(and don't take any 12 hours if you are at all up to date)
But Viper does better and is not at all expensive.
It found the Chinese trogan on my system when all else failed.
Ya got serious problems there mate. You need serious tools.
http://www.vipreantivirus.com/
On 8/15/2011 11:09 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> Twayne wrote:
>>
>> WRONG. Use the Norton removal tool and remove all the objects
>> required to be removed. It is NOT necessary, and is less effective,
>> to try to use a registry cleaner if you are a newbie to such things
>> and pick the wrong one. A couple are great programs; others not so
>> great, others better for newbies.
>>
>>
>> WRONG. Norton's footprint is now very small and they even show it in a
>> monitor if you wsh to watch it at work in real time. McAfee I no
>> longer bother checking out but you have obvously not checked anything
>> out about any of the programs you speak of; you are way behind the
>> times and are presenting misinformation on almost everything you
>> mention.
>
> That may be true, but Norton screwed the pooch by becoming the barnacle of
> the software world. You had to visit the Control Panel/Add/Remove, then
> download their SooperSekret removal tool (version and model dependent), then
> scour the registry looking for instances of "Norton" "Symantec" and "Banana
> Daiquiri", and EVEN THEN you could not be sure you had ripped the
> sonofabitch out root and branch.
>
> And Norton STILL interferes with installation of 3rd party software and the
> pitiful thing is NORTON DOESN'T TELL you it refused to install necessary
> components of third party software!
>
> Fuckers should die from some loathsome venereal disease involving festering,
> fungating, squishy-sounding carbuncles.
>
>
The problem with Norton is that it is only a purchased name and product
that is no longer being developed. For he last several years it has
been a patched version of the original. Every year a new patch
disguised under the name of Norton 20xx. Every few years or so the
patch looks good then there are the not so good years.
When Symantic bought Norton, the original PcTools, that great FAX
program, for got the name, GoBack, etc it was all down hill from.there,
On 8/15/2011 7:10 PM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:[email protected],
> [email protected]<[email protected]> typed:
>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have
>> used it for a couple of years now and it does a bang up
>> job, and is updated sometimes twice a day. It has great
>> detection, and in the last two+ years has given me no
>> false hits.
>>
>> As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with it
>> though as if this is a virus in your boot sector, once it
>> finishes its scan, the program will need you to reboot so
>> it can scan your start up files. Then it will finish up.
>>
>> No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things
>> others won't. Don't be afraid of the free stuff (remember
>> though, they *love* an donation or actual purchase!) as
>> it turns out most of the free stuff like AVAST, AVG, and
>> Trend Micro test nearly as good or better than Norton and
>> McAfee.
>>
>> They also take less resources from your machine, and if
>> you delete them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of
>> Norton..... I have had it on twice on two different
>> machines, and it can't even uninstall itself. There are
>> bomb fragments all over the machine when you uninstall,
>> and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still
>> loads remnants (or at least try to) of the program.
>
> WRONG. Use the Norton removal tool and remove all the objects required to be
> removed. It is NOT necessary, and is less effective, to try to use a
> registry cleaner if you are a newbie to such things and pick the wrong one.
> A couple are great programs; others not so great, others better for newbies.
>
>
>>
>> McAfee..... two commercial versions later, and too many
>> false positives to count. Both programs are bloated
>> larger than the Hindenburg, and while they test out well
>> in most cases, you will find the tests are run on newer
>> machines with a lot of available resources. If your
>> machine is older, say more than a couple of years, those
>> two programs will slow your machine considerably.
>
> WRONG. Norton's footprint is now very small and they even show it in a
> monitor if you wsh to watch it at work in real time. McAfee I no longer
> bother checking out but you have obvously not checked anything out about any
> of the programs you speak of; you are way behind the times and are
> presenting misinformation on almost everything you mention.
The problem with the Norton removal tool is that it has to be used over
and over to get all of Norton out. It may say the removal is complete
but until you actually get the message that all has been removed after
several runs, it ain't all out. And then there are specks of it
floating around. Perhaps you are not familiar with how it works with
older versions of Norton's array of products.
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
>
>
>> Good luck, Zz. It sounds like this is an easy fix.
>>
>> Robert
>
>
>
On 8/13/2011 12:29 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>
> IE ver 8.
>
> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
> website wants to run the default file description string from
> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>
> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
> phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks a heap,
> -Zz
> "Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
> http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
Switch to Chrome
Check your network card driver setup and see if the TCP/IP has a manual IP
address inserted into it. They should all be on "automatic" and then
assigned by your provider. Most simple browser redirector. They give you
what you want eventually but know what you browse and can inject anything or
log it.
--------
wrote in message
news:60df8f81-3363-46df-a50f-3b1513b14d9d@l37g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
I don't have a solution for you but I too
have been bombarded with =
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON
Does anyone know how I can remove this ?
I have a Mac with a Safari browser.
Thanks,
Smitty
######################################
Swingman <[email protected]> wrote in news:0uqdnb2tMMQHSdrTnZ2dnUVZ_j-
[email protected]:
> On 8/14/2011 8:23 AM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 8/13/2011 8:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>
>>> Ditto. I moved from AVG to Avast, which _really_ slowed my computer,
>>> then to Microsoft Security Essentials.
>>
>> Wait a sec, the wording of your reply makes it sound like moving from
>> AVG to Avast slowed down your computer. Clarify?
>
> No kidding ... inquiring minds.
Avira rules. So says David Lipman, and I do trust him.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Twayne wrote:
>
> WRONG. Use the Norton removal tool and remove all the objects
> required to be removed. It is NOT necessary, and is less effective,
> to try to use a registry cleaner if you are a newbie to such things
> and pick the wrong one. A couple are great programs; others not so
> great, others better for newbies.
>
>
> WRONG. Norton's footprint is now very small and they even show it in a
> monitor if you wsh to watch it at work in real time. McAfee I no
> longer bother checking out but you have obvously not checked anything
> out about any of the programs you speak of; you are way behind the
> times and are presenting misinformation on almost everything you
> mention.
That may be true, but Norton screwed the pooch by becoming the barnacle of
the software world. You had to visit the Control Panel/Add/Remove, then
download their SooperSekret removal tool (version and model dependent), then
scour the registry looking for instances of "Norton" "Symantec" and "Banana
Daiquiri", and EVEN THEN you could not be sure you had ripped the
sonofabitch out root and branch.
And Norton STILL interferes with installation of 3rd party software and the
pitiful thing is NORTON DOESN'T TELL you it refused to install necessary
components of third party software!
Fuckers should die from some loathsome venereal disease involving festering,
fungating, squishy-sounding carbuncles.
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:23:36 -0500, Steve Turner
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/13/2011 8:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:20:38 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/13/2011 6:11 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
>>>>> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
>>>>> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
>>>>> years has given me no false hits.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I went looking. I found AVAST. They have a free version and a paid
>>>> version. And they don't harass you if you choose the free version. It
>>>> works good. No problems of any kind from it. Another vote for AVAST.
>>>> After many happy years with AVG, I am an AVAST man. AVG drove me away.
>>>
>>> My AVG expires in November and I'd already decided to bail ... enough is
>>> enough.
>>>
>>> They remind me of Intuit or Corel.
>>
>> Ditto. I moved from AVG to Avast, which _really_ slowed my computer,
>> then to Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
>Wait a sec, the wording of your reply makes it sound like moving from AVG to
>Avast slowed down your computer. Clarify?
It did, but not as much as I had remembered. Avast cut my comp speed a
bit, and I had to remove Spybot Search and Destroy, too. My comp
really slowed with Spybot's TeaTimer program--a 30% drop in computer
speed. Ghastly! I had used both for a time, neither happily, and a
friend suggested MSE, which I've been very happy with. I removed SSAD
first, then later replaced Avast with MSE.
So, I'm using MSE realtime and Advanced System Care weekly. What else,
if anything, do I need, condomwise, guys and girls?
--
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
years has given me no false hits.
As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with it though as if
this is a virus in your boot sector, once it finishes its scan, the
program will need you to reboot so it can scan your start up files.
Then it will finish up.
No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things others won't.
Don't be afraid of the free stuff (remember though, they *love* an
donation or actual purchase!) as it turns out most of the free stuff
like AVAST, AVG, and Trend Micro test nearly as good or better than
Norton and McAfee.
They also take less resources from your machine, and if you delete
them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of Norton..... I have had
it on twice on two different machines, and it can't even uninstall
itself. There are bomb fragments all over the machine when you
uninstall, and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still loads
remnants (or at least try to) of the program.
McAfee..... two commercial versions later, and too many false
positives to count. Both programs are bloated larger than the
Hindenburg, and while they test out well in most cases, you will find
the tests are run on newer machines with a lot of available
resources. If your machine is older, say more than a couple of years,
those two programs will slow your machine considerably.
Good luck, Zz. It sounds like this is an easy fix.
Robert
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:01:18 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>
>
>I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
I think it's the mindset difference. We want to know every detail
about our computers. They don't even want to know how they work, what
the file name is, or what type of file it is. They just want to press
one button and have the computer spit out the item they need.
Y'know, kinda like Engineer Scott talking to the 20th century
computer, not getting any answer, and then speaking into the mouse.
(Catherine Hicks was at her hottest in "The Voyage Home", eh?)
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:29:52 -0700, Zz Yzx <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>
>IE ver 8.
>
>Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
>website wants to run the default file description string from
>Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>
>I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
>phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks a heap,
>-Zz
>"Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
>http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
Click on "Tools" and then "Manage Add-Ons". See if there is anything
loaded from Intellisync for mobile phone synchronization.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
>Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
>website wants to run the default file description string from
>Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>
Thanks for the responses. I found the problem, thanks to J. Clarke.
Over a month ago, I installed a program that linked my Quicken
bill-pay reminders to Outlook. I never got around to configuring it.
And why it only started causing the pop-up issue 2-3 days ago is a
mystery to me.
Anyway, I unistalled the program and all is well.
Thanks again.
-Zz
On 8/13/11 2:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
> years has given me no false hits.
>
> As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with it though as if
> this is a virus in your boot sector, once it finishes its scan, the
> program will need you to reboot so it can scan your start up files.
> Then it will finish up.
>
> No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things others won't.
> Don't be afraid of the free stuff (remember though, they *love* an
> donation or actual purchase!) as it turns out most of the free stuff
> like AVAST, AVG, and Trend Micro test nearly as good or better than
> Norton and McAfee.
>
> They also take less resources from your machine, and if you delete
> them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of Norton..... I have had
> it on twice on two different machines, and it can't even uninstall
> itself. There are bomb fragments all over the machine when you
> uninstall, and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still loads
> remnants (or at least try to) of the program.
>
> McAfee..... two commercial versions later, and too many false
> positives to count. Both programs are bloated larger than the
> Hindenburg, and while they test out well in most cases, you will find
> the tests are run on newer machines with a lot of available
> resources. If your machine is older, say more than a couple of years,
> those two programs will slow your machine considerably.
>
> Good luck, Zz. It sounds like this is an easy fix.
>
I second Robert's comments, AVAST free is very good, McLaughee and
SNortin are both bloated and have a history of false positives. If it
is a boot sector virus, have it remove it, save your data elsewhere, and
go for a full reinstall though, they are just downright nasty.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 8/13/2011 8:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:20:38 -0500, Swingman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 8/13/2011 6:11 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
>>>> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
>>>> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
>>>> years has given me no false hits.
>>
>>
>>>> I went looking. I found AVAST. They have a free version and a paid
>>> version. And they don't harass you if you choose the free version. It
>>> works good. No problems of any kind from it. Another vote for AVAST.
>>> After many happy years with AVG, I am an AVAST man. AVG drove me away.
>>
>> My AVG expires in November and I'd already decided to bail ... enough is
>> enough.
>>
>> They remind me of Intuit or Corel.
>
> Ditto. I moved from AVG to Avast, which _really_ slowed my computer,
> then to Microsoft Security Essentials.
Wait a sec, the wording of your reply makes it sound like moving from AVG to
Avast slowed down your computer. Clarify?
--
See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad!
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
In news:[email protected],
[email protected] <[email protected]> typed:
> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have
> used it for a couple of years now and it does a bang up
> job, and is updated sometimes twice a day. It has great
> detection, and in the last two+ years has given me no
> false hits.
>
> As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with it
> though as if this is a virus in your boot sector, once it
> finishes its scan, the program will need you to reboot so
> it can scan your start up files. Then it will finish up.
>
> No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things
> others won't. Don't be afraid of the free stuff (remember
> though, they *love* an donation or actual purchase!) as
> it turns out most of the free stuff like AVAST, AVG, and
> Trend Micro test nearly as good or better than Norton and
> McAfee.
>
> They also take less resources from your machine, and if
> you delete them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of
> Norton..... I have had it on twice on two different
> machines, and it can't even uninstall itself. There are
> bomb fragments all over the machine when you uninstall,
> and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still
> loads remnants (or at least try to) of the program.
WRONG. Use the Norton removal tool and remove all the objects required to be
removed. It is NOT necessary, and is less effective, to try to use a
registry cleaner if you are a newbie to such things and pick the wrong one.
A couple are great programs; others not so great, others better for newbies.
>
> McAfee..... two commercial versions later, and too many
> false positives to count. Both programs are bloated
> larger than the Hindenburg, and while they test out well
> in most cases, you will find the tests are run on newer
> machines with a lot of available resources. If your
> machine is older, say more than a couple of years, those
> two programs will slow your machine considerably.
WRONG. Norton's footprint is now very small and they even show it in a
monitor if you wsh to watch it at work in real time. McAfee I no longer
bother checking out but you have obvously not checked anything out about any
of the programs you speak of; you are way behind the times and are
presenting misinformation on almost everything you mention.
HTH,
Twayne`
> Good luck, Zz. It sounds like this is an easy fix.
>
> Robert
In news:[email protected],
FrozenNorth <[email protected]> typed:
> On 8/13/11 2:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have
>> used it for a couple of years now and it does a bang up
>> job, and is updated sometimes twice a day. It has great
>> detection, and in the last two+ years has given me no
>> false hits.
You are wrong that Norton find false positives, I think. Specifically what
is it falsely triggering on? Norton is not only faster than your AVAST but
is more accurate and updated more frequently wit real data, not stuff that
looks like new data.
>>
>> As noted above, scans can take a long time. Hang with
>> it though as if this is a virus in your boot sector,
>> once it finishes its scan, the program will need you to
>> reboot so it can scan your start up files. Then it will
>> finish up.
Any scan that takes 20 hours to complete is completely unacceptable and is
not Norton and/or is not a single hard drive. Even including my two terabyte
externals, Norton never approaches 20 hours to do a scan. You might wish to
run any AV you have, plus a slew of malware detectors.
I'm not trying to be as negative as this might sound; I am only trying to
point out some food for thought. Even in its "bloat" days Norton never took
any 20 hours to scan a hard drive.
I've been with Norton since the days of DOS where if the machine wasn't
up to the "preferred" system requirements is the only time you'd notce the
"bloat". Fortunately, Norton/Symantec listened to its customers and those
problems are long gone.
My only complaint about Norton is the cost of their subscriptions has
gone too high IMO and that does have me contemplating some of the
competition sans McAfee, the only one I've fully tested to date.
HTH,
Twayne`
>> No antivirus/spyware is 100%, and some pick up things
>> others won't. Don't be afraid of the free stuff
>> (remember though, they *love* an donation or actual
>> purchase!) as it turns out most of the free stuff like
>> AVAST, AVG, and Trend Micro test nearly as good or
>> better than Norton and McAfee. They also take less resources from your
>> machine, and if
>> you delete them, they are gone. Just try and get rid of
>> Norton..... I have had it on twice on two different
>> machines, and it can't even uninstall itself. There are
>> bomb fragments all over the machine when you uninstall,
>> and if you don't run a registry cleaner it will still
>> loads remnants (or at least try to) of the program. McAfee..... two
>> commercial versions later, and too many
>> false positives to count. Both programs are bloated
>> larger than the Hindenburg, and while they test out well
>> in most cases, you will find the tests are run on newer
>> machines with a lot of available resources. If your
>> machine is older, say more than a couple of years, those
>> two programs will slow your machine considerably. Good luck, Zz. It
>> sounds like this is an easy fix.
>>
> I second Robert's comments, AVAST free is very good,
> McLaughee and SNortin are both bloated and have a history
> of false positives. If it is a boot sector virus, have
> it remove it, save your data elsewhere, and go for a full
> reinstall though, they are just downright nasty.
"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
That may be true, but Norton screwed the pooch by becoming the barnacle of
the software world. You had to visit the Control Panel/Add/Remove, then
download their SooperSekret removal tool (version and model dependent), then
scour the registry looking for instances of "Norton" "Symantec" and "Banana
Daiquiri", and EVEN THEN you could not be sure you had ripped the
sonofabitch out root and branch.
And Norton STILL interferes with installation of 3rd party software and the
pitiful thing is NORTON DOESN'T TELL you it refused to install necessary
components of third party software!
Fuckers should die from some loathsome venereal disease involving festering,
fungating, squishy-sounding carbuncles.
==================
Totally agree with you on that one!
Norton should be in prison for the damage he inflicted on millions of
systems.
--
Eric
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 8/16/2011 12:22 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:07:15 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/16/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>> Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
>>> Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
>>> day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
>>> name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
>>
>> A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
>> CentralPoint PCTools.
>
> Yeah, it was alright, too. But _now_ look who owns it. Slymantec.
> I'll bet they ruined -it-, too.
They acquired it back when Win 95 came out, Norton Navigator copied it
and another popular file manager. Then they ditched it like several
other industry leading softare's
There is a current PCTools however I don't think it is the same.
==================
With MS putting out two excellent virus scanners these out-of-date companies
will be out of business soon, anyway.
Why would people pay for something that is much better free? They are more
settable and completely transparent and limit their CPU usage by user
control. They update twice per day sometimes.
--
Eric
Zz Yzx wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post but you guys know more than most.
>
> IE ver 8.
>
> Lately, I've been hammered by the pop-up blocker telling me that "the
> website wants to run the default file description string from
> Intellisync Corporation". EVERY WEBSITE. EVERY TIME.
>
> I've Googled it and it appears to have something to do with mobil
> phone apps. I don't got no apps.
>
> Any help?
>
> Thanks a heap,
> -Zz
> "Zz Yzx" rhymes with "physics"; or " Isaacs" if you prefer.
> http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com/zzyzx_road.htm
You're infected with some malware. Try first downloading and running
Microsoft's Security Essentials. It's free and pretty good.
Note: A complete scan of your system may take from 12 to 20 hours.
"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need
>>>to
>>>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>>>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>>
>>All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different
>>extensions,
>>but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>>
>>
>>==========
>>It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
>
>Or, somebody e-mailed a file with the same base name as something you
>already
>have.
>
>Or, more than one person uses the machine, and wasn't aware of the other
>file.
>
>>Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same as
>>a
>>photograph of a repair to be made?
>
>Maybe the 'honey do' list, the spreadsheet of the purchases needed for each
>project, and the directory of pictures of the results.
>
>>Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the
>>whole
>>name though)
>
>>"house fixups_text.txt" LOL
>
>Yup. *UNTIL* somebody imports it into Word to to make a large-print hard-
>copy, and saves "house fixups-text.doc"
>
>
>Windows will also out-and-out *lie* to you about the case of the letters in
>file names under some circumstances.
>
>==============
>
>The first few points may be moot as operating systems would tell you if a
>file has a dup name before saving. Extension shown on the file, or not
>won't
>matter. It will replace it or warn you.
Read *carefully*. I said 'base name'. Yes, if the _entire_ name is
identical, you'll get the over-write warning. But _not_ if they have
different extensions, with the extension hidden. Say you have a worksheet
with the schedule for the wedding ("wedding.xls") and somebody emails
you their batch of pictures from the wedding ("wedding.zip") No over-
write warning, just to files with the same name.
>
>As for the rest of the rattle, I always have extensions showing because I
>need to know what type of file it is. I couldn't klive like that but I am
>OCD when it comes to organizational things like that.
Me, I have 'CDO' -- it's like OCD, but 'with the letters in the RIGHT
order!'
<grin>
I know what I'm doing, I always have extensions showing -- the MS
'associations' are useless -- I have several programs that use the _same_
extension for their own file types. <sigh>
I also make all system/hidden files visible, because I want to -see- what
all is there.
Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>
>
> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>
The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
"cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
(and a tiny one at that!)
Puckdropper
Leon brought next idea :
> On 8/16/2011 6:54 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> Bill<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>>
>>
>> The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
>> the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
>> "cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
>> printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
>> as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
>
> I want to see attributes also. Directory Opus will show you more that you
> would ever want to know about a file. I just counted a possible 99 columns
> that you can choose to show information about a file and that is all
> customizable to any particular directory.
MS Explorer will display all those things, View > Choose Details. and
if you do not choose Tools > Folder Options > View > Apply to All
Folders. then it should only apply to the current folder.
(I am not a particular MS lover but the facilities are there.)
>
> There are sizes printed on the side a socket???? Seriously I never could
> understand why sizes are printed on a socket, the size is not printed on the
> head of a bolt or nut. When you look at a nut or bolt you don't suddenly
> need to translate that into a size. I guess it makes it easier to buy a
> replacement or ask some one to bring you a 7/16 socket. ;~) I guess you
> work with them enough you get used to simply looking at the physical size,
> assuming you don't mix them with metric!
>
>
>
>>
>> Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
>> (and a tiny one at that!)
>>
>> Puckdropper
--
John G.
Swingman wrote:
> On 8/19/2011 2:15 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
>> I also make all system/hidden files visible, because I want to -see-
>> what all is there.
>
> First thing I do when someone asks me to 'help out' with their
> computer.
First thing I do is turn on detailed views....
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Puckdropper" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>
>>
>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>
>
>The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
>the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
>"cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
>printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
>as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
>
>Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
>(and a tiny one at that!)
>
>Puckdropper
>
>==============
>
>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need to
>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different extensions,
but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
On 8/17/2011 9:37 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> <snipped>
>
> Now you've got me curious ...
>
LOL, does not hurt to look and putter. If you like file managers that
can configured many many many ways....
And I might add, spend some time with it. You can get it to work in
short order but to learn what all it can do takes some time. This is
not one of those programs that you mess with for an hour or two and you
know everything about it and what it will.
And as I mentioned earlier you can save unlimited set ups for your
specific needs.
On 8/17/2011 3:09 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 8/17/2011 9:37 AM, Han wrote:
>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>> Now you've got me curious ...
>>
>
> LOL, does not hurt to look and putter. If you like file managers that
> can configured many many many ways....
>
> And I might add, spend some time with it. You can get it to work in
> short order but to learn what all it can do takes some time. This is not
> one of those programs that you mess with for an hour or two and you know
> everything about it and what it will.
>
> And as I mentioned earlier you can save unlimited set ups for your
> specific needs.
One last thing,, maybe. ;~) And I do not earn a commission, the screen
shots do not show it but you can save tabs to take you to your most
visited directories instantly, you do not have to hunt them down in the
tree unless you just want to.
On 8/16/2011 8:04 PM, John G wrote:
> MS Explorer will display all those things, View > Choose Details. and if
> you do not choose Tools > Folder Options > View > Apply to All Folders.
> then it should only apply to the current folder.
> (I am not a particular MS lover but the facilities are there.)
By crackly you are correct! I guess where I was going is that with
DOpus you can have it open an unlimited number of ways. Say you often
want to compare two folders to make sure your flash drive has certain
current data one it, you open in that saved configuration and let it
compare and copy to the desired folder the changes. It almost works
like a back up program. There are countless savable ways for the
program to open and display.
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 8/16/2011 8:04 PM, John G wrote:
>> MS Explorer will display all those things, View > Choose Details. and if
>> you do not choose Tools > Folder Options > View > Apply to All Folders.
>> then it should only apply to the current folder.
>> (I am not a particular MS lover but the facilities are there.)
>
> By crackly you are correct! I guess where I was going is that with
> DOpus you can have it open an unlimited number of ways. Say you often
> want to compare two folders to make sure your flash drive has certain
> current data one it, you open in that saved configuration and let it
> compare and copy to the desired folder the changes. It almost works
> like a back up program. There are countless savable ways for the
> program to open and display.
There is a 60 day free evaluation, but then I would have to pay over
USD100. No way, matey, not for me.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snipped>
Now you've got me curious ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 8/17/2011 3:09 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/17/2011 9:37 AM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>> Now you've got me curious ...
>>>
>>
>> LOL, does not hurt to look and putter. If you like file managers that
>> can configured many many many ways....
>>
>> And I might add, spend some time with it. You can get it to work in
>> short order but to learn what all it can do takes some time. This is
>> not one of those programs that you mess with for an hour or two and
>> you know everything about it and what it will.
>>
>> And as I mentioned earlier you can save unlimited set ups for your
>> specific needs.
>
> One last thing,, maybe. ;~) And I do not earn a commission, the
> screen shots do not show it but you can save tabs to take you to your
> most visited directories instantly, you do not have to hunt them down
> in the tree unless you just want to.
I installed it, but I did 1 search for files with vizio in thr name and
that was excruciatingly slow. Now the program is obviously not optimized
for that, but my "Search Everything" is much, much faster ...
Will work it more ...
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
On 8/16/2011 6:54 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Bill<[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>
>>
>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>
>
> The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
> the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
> "cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
> printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
> as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
I want to see attributes also. Directory Opus will show you more that
you would ever want to know about a file. I just counted a possible 99
columns that you can choose to show information about a file and that is
all customizable to any particular directory.
There are sizes printed on the side a socket???? Seriously I never
could understand why sizes are printed on a socket, the size is not
printed on the head of a bolt or nut. When you look at a nut or bolt
you don't suddenly need to translate that into a size. I guess it makes
it easier to buy a replacement or ask some one to bring you a 7/16
socket. ;~) I guess you work with them enough you get used to simply
looking at the physical size, assuming you don't mix them with metric!
>
> Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
> (and a tiny one at that!)
>
> Puckdropper
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:55:49 -0500, [email protected] (Robert
Bonomi) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Puckdropper" wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>>
>>
>>The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
>>the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
>>"cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
>>printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
>>as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
>>
>>Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
>>(and a tiny one at that!)
>>
>>Puckdropper
>>
>>==============
>>
>>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need to
>>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>
>All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different extensions,
>but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
The "type" is normally shown, which is what Windows will do with it if it's
(double) clicked.
On 8/17/2011 6:53 AM, Han wrote:
> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On 8/16/2011 8:04 PM, John G wrote:
>>> MS Explorer will display all those things, View> Choose Details. and if
>>> you do not choose Tools> Folder Options> View> Apply to All Folders.
>>> then it should only apply to the current folder.
>>> (I am not a particular MS lover but the facilities are there.)
>>
>> By crackly you are correct! I guess where I was going is that with
>> DOpus you can have it open an unlimited number of ways. Say you often
>> want to compare two folders to make sure your flash drive has certain
>> current data one it, you open in that saved configuration and let it
>> compare and copy to the desired folder the changes. It almost works
>> like a back up program. There are countless savable ways for the
>> program to open and display.
>
> There is a 60 day free evaluation, but then I would have to pay over
> USD100. No way, matey, not for me.
>
No, that is not how that works, you get to evaluate and use it for 60
days, IIRC if you register it you get it for an additional 30 days.
Then if you decide that it is not for you for what ever reason then you
simply don't continue to use it.
You do not have to pay for it if you don't continue to use it.
You are assuming that you may not feel that it is worth $100. You might
find that it is worth $200 to you.
After having used it almost daily for about three years I would have to
think before paying $300 but certainly not $100. I actually bought 5
licenses at a considerable discount off the single price. I did use the
entire evaluation period as I was being very picky about what I wanted
out of a file manager. I could find no hitches or anything wrong with
the program which is something I cannot say about the other 15-20 file
managers I tried out when looking for a replacement for Power Desk.
After seeing what it would do, my father, wife, and son wanted it on
their computers.
Swingman bought a copy too.
Are you, also, a member of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia)?
-------------
"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Me, I have 'CDO' -- it's like OCD, but 'with the letters in the RIGHT
order!'
<grin>
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:41:04 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/16/2011 2:29 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
>>> CentralPoint PCTools.
>> ------------------------------
>> I was also a PC Tools fan.
>>
>> SFWIW, found Power Desk from Avanquest to be a good replacement.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>I used Power Desk for years until It and Norton did not play well.
I ran Norton Commander and Norton Editor for years and years, even
under Win3 and up. Happy days!
>If you want an infinitely adjustable file manager.. look at Directory Opus.
I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
Larry Jaques wrote:
> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
"Puckdropper" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>
>
> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>
The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
"cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
(and a tiny one at that!)
Puckdropper
==============
They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need to
see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
--
Eric
Eric wrote:
>
>
> "Puckdropper" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>
>>
>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>
>
> The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
> the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
> "cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
> printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
> as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
>
> Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
> (and a tiny one at that!)
>
> Puckdropper
>
> ==============
>
> They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need
> to see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them.
> Just open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
Me and the OS (operating system). Sometimes we disagree about the way I
wish to proceed.
>
> --
>
> Eric
"Bill" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Eric wrote:
>
>
> "Puckdropper" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> I'm surprised that Mickeysoft's Windows Explorer never did color, but
>>> I guess most computer users -hide- the extensions, anyway. Maroons.
>>> I don't use a file manager a whole lot any more, though.
>>
>>
>> I Do Not understand the desire to hide the extensions...I've seen it
>> too, and from people I'd expect not to do that!
>>
>
> The trouble, at least with Explorer, is that they're off by default. It's
> the single most useful piece of metadata aside from the filename, and for
> "cleanliness" or "to avoid confusion" they're hidden. It's like not
> printing the size of a socket on the wrench... Sure, there's no confusion
> as to whether or not it's a socket, but what size nut does it fit?
>
> Some programs want to hide filenames as well. All you get is a picture
> (and a tiny one at that!)
>
> Puckdropper
>
> ==============
>
> They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need
> to see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them.
> Just open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
Me and the OS (operating system). Sometimes we disagree about the way I
wish to proceed.
==============
Yabbut we only expect to get things in the way we are trained.
They keep changing the style somewhat though. As an old system software guy
I like to see it all, but users may only want to see the results and don't
care where or how they get them. This was the old way the Macs did it. MS
only copied it more each release. I remember statements from the experts
(Byte magazine) years back in the MsDos times stating that a mouse OS was
only Mickey Mouse and the GUI would never survive.
We got some OCD control freaks, here, and can't let go and just become
users. LOL
--
Eric
Eric wrote:
> Yabbut we only expect to get things in the way we are trained.
>
> They keep changing the style somewhat though. As an old system software
> guy I like to see it all, but users may only want to see the results and
> don't care where or how they get them. This was the old way the Macs did
> it. MS only copied it more each release.
I remember statements from the
> experts (Byte magazine) years back in the MsDos times stating that a
> mouse OS was only Mickey Mouse and the GUI would never survive.
The command line and scripts are still alive and well!
When the going gets tough, a mouse is no match for the command line.
>
> We got some OCD control freaks, here, and can't let go and just become
> users. LOL
>
Typo: you meant to type, "... and just become *helpless* users"
*helpless:* adjective
1.
unable to help oneself; weak or dependent: a helpless invalid.
2.
deprived of strength or power; powerless; incapacitated.
> --
>
> Eric
Leon wrote:
> On 8/17/2011 3:09 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/17/2011 9:37 AM, Han wrote:
>>> Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>> Now you've got me curious ...
>>>
>>
>> LOL, does not hurt to look and putter. If you like file managers that
>> can configured many many many ways....
>>
>> And I might add, spend some time with it. You can get it to work in
>> short order but to learn what all it can do takes some time. This is not
>> one of those programs that you mess with for an hour or two and you know
>> everything about it and what it will.
>>
>> And as I mentioned earlier you can save unlimited set ups for your
>> specific needs.
>
> One last thing,, maybe. ;~) And I do not earn a commission, the screen
> shots do not show it but you can save tabs to take you to your most
> visited directories instantly, you do not have to hunt them down in the
> tree unless you just want to.
I create shortcuts in IE which I leave on my desktop for that.
It works for file folders or URLs (web pages). Very handy!
"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need to
>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different extensions,
but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
==========
It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same as a
photograph of a repair to be made?
Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the whole
name though)
"house fixups_text.txt" LOL
--
Eric
"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need
>>to
>>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>
>All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different
>extensions,
>but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>
>
>==========
>It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
Or, somebody e-mailed a file with the same base name as something you
already
have.
Or, more than one person uses the machine, and wasn't aware of the other
file.
>Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same as a
>photograph of a repair to be made?
Maybe the 'honey do' list, the spreadsheet of the purchases needed for each
project, and the directory of pictures of the results.
>Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the whole
>name though)
>"house fixups_text.txt" LOL
Yup. *UNTIL* somebody imports it into Word to to make a large-print hard-
copy, and saves "house fixups-text.doc"
Windows will also out-and-out *lie* to you about the case of the letters in
file names under some circumstances.
==============
The first few points may be moot as operating systems would tell you if a
file has a dup name before saving. Extension shown on the file, or not won't
matter. It will replace it or warn you.
As for the rest of the rattle, I always have extensions showing because I
need to know what type of file it is. I couldn't klive like that but I am
OCD when it comes to organizational things like that.
Wife worked in a big insurance industry and they did everything in Word.
Databases, spreadsheets, photo albums etc... I couldn't even listen to the
tech talk. It drove me insane to hear people working like that. It's an old
carry over from WOrst-Perfect where the word processor becomes the operating
system.
The fine print...
() uncheck here to not download and permanently install our quick acchole,
in-your-face toolbar, that only takes up 10%** of your screen realestate!
**based on having screen space left for the user
--
Eric
"Leon" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On 8/18/2011 9:16 AM, Eric wrote:
>
>
> "Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not
>> need to
>> see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>> open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>
> All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different
> extensions,
> but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>
>
> ==========
> It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
> Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same
> as a photograph of a repair to be made?
> Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the
> whole name though)
>
> "house fixups_text.txt" LOL
It is not uncommon for a program, actually many programs, to periodically
automatically back up an open file that you are working on.
It uses the same file name with a different extension.
Whether you do or do not name your files very well is a moot point.
==============
Apparently the o/s and applications do a better job to name the files than
we do by using three characters at the end. Then we cry we can't see the
characters we didn't assign the filenames. LOL
--
Eric
On 8/18/2011 9:16 AM, Eric wrote:
>
>
> "Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not
>> need to
>> see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>> open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>
> All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different
> extensions,
> but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>
>
> ==========
> It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
> Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same
> as a photograph of a repair to be made?
> Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the
> whole name though)
>
> "house fixups_text.txt" LOL
It is not uncommon for a program, actually many programs, to periodically
automatically back up an open file that you are working on.
It uses the same file name with a different extension.
Whether you do or do not name your files very well is a moot point.
In article <[email protected]>,
Josepi wrote:
>Are you, also, a member of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia)?
Nope. I do, however support DAMN -- that's "Nude Mothers Against Dyslexia"
They get lots of things backwards.
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:55:50 -0500, [email protected] (Robert
Bonomi) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Josepi wrote:
>>Are you, also, a member of DAM (Mothers Against Dyslexia)?
>
>
>Nope. I do, however support DAMN -- that's "Nude Mothers Against Dyslexia"
>They get lots of things backwards.
>
DAMM - Drunks Against Mad Mothers
In article <[email protected]>,
Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need
>>>to
>>>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>>>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>>
>>All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different
>>extensions,
>>but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>>
>>
>>==========
>>It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
>
>Or, somebody e-mailed a file with the same base name as something you
>already
>have.
>
>Or, more than one person uses the machine, and wasn't aware of the other
>file.
>
>>Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same as a
>>photograph of a repair to be made?
>
>Maybe the 'honey do' list, the spreadsheet of the purchases needed for each
>project, and the directory of pictures of the results.
>
>>Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the whole
>>name though)
>
>>"house fixups_text.txt" LOL
>
>Yup. *UNTIL* somebody imports it into Word to to make a large-print hard-
>copy, and saves "house fixups-text.doc"
>
>
>Windows will also out-and-out *lie* to you about the case of the letters in
>file names under some circumstances.
>
>==============
>
>The first few points may be moot as operating systems would tell you if a
>file has a dup name before saving. Extension shown on the file, or not won't
>matter. It will replace it or warn you.
Read *carefully*. I said 'base name'. Yes, if the _entire_ name is
identical, you'll get the over-write warning. But _not_ if they have
different extensions, with the extension hidden. Say you have a worksheet
with the schedule for the wedding ("wedding.xls") and somebody emails
you their batch of pictures from the wedding ("wedding.zip") No over-
write warning, just to files with the same name.
>
>As for the rest of the rattle, I always have extensions showing because I
>need to know what type of file it is. I couldn't klive like that but I am
>OCD when it comes to organizational things like that.
Me, I have 'CDO' -- it's like OCD, but 'with the letters in the RIGHT order!'
<grin>
I know what I'm doing, I always have extensions showing -- the MS
'associations' are useless -- I have several programs that use the _same_
extension for their own file types. <sigh>
I also make all system/hidden files visible, because I want to -see- what
all is there.
In article <[email protected]>,
Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>"Robert Bonomi" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>They are attempting to copy the old Macintosh OS where users do not need to
>>see extensions or system files. It causes trouble t play with them. Just
>>open the file. Who cares what method of encoding it isÉ
>
>All well and good, *UNTIL* you have several files with different extensions,
>but the same base name -- you _can't_tell_ which is which.
>
>
>==========
>It could be said you didn't name your files very well.
Or, somebody e-mailed a file with the same base name as something you already
have.
Or, more than one person uses the machine, and wasn't aware of the other
file.
>Would you name a text file on fixups to do, around the house, the same as a
>photograph of a repair to be made?
Maybe the 'honey do' list, the spreadsheet of the purchases needed for each
project, and the directory of pictures of the results.
>Not likely with 256 characters to name things with. (PITA to read the whole
>name though)
>"house fixups_text.txt" LOL
Yup. *UNTIL* somebody imports it into Word to to make a large-print hard-
copy, and saves "house fixups-text.doc"
Windows will also out-and-out *lie* to you about the case of the letters in
file names under some circumstances.
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:31:51 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/15/2011 11:09 PM, HeyBub wrote:
>> Twayne wrote:
>> And Norton STILL interferes with installation of 3rd party software and the
>> pitiful thing is NORTON DOESN'T TELL you it refused to install necessary
>> components of third party software!
>>
>> Fuckers should die from some loathsome venereal disease involving festering,
>> fungating, squishy-sounding carbuncles.
Indeed.
>The problem with Norton is that it is only a purchased name and product
>that is no longer being developed. For he last several years it has
>been a patched version of the original. Every year a new patch
>disguised under the name of Norton 20xx. Every few years or so the
>patch looks good then there are the not so good years.
>When Symantic bought Norton, the original PcTools, that great FAX
>program, for got the name, GoBack, etc it was all down hill from.there,
Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
IMHO, Slymantic Norton products are absolute shit. Ptui!
The only product on the market with the Norton name should be the
removal tool. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
--
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:20:38 -0500, Swingman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 8/13/2011 6:11 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> AVAST is another free, but effective antivirus. I have used it for a
>>> couple of years now and it does a bang up job, and is updated
>>> sometimes twice a day. It has great detection, and in the last two+
>>> years has given me no false hits.
>
>
>>> I went looking. I found AVAST. They have a free version and a paid
>> version. And they don't harass you if you choose the free version. It
>> works good. No problems of any kind from it. Another vote for AVAST.
>> After many happy years with AVG, I am an AVAST man. AVG drove me away.
>
>My AVG expires in November and I'd already decided to bail ... enough is
>enough.
>
>They remind me of Intuit or Corel.
Ditto. I moved from AVG to Avast, which _really_ slowed my computer,
then to Microsoft Security Essentials.
--
Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:07:15 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/16/2011 10:15 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> Peter Norton was a DOS god. Once his company switched into the
>> Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
>> day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
>> name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
>
>A lot of people liked Norton in the DOS days, I much preferred
>CentralPoint PCTools.
Yeah, it was alright, too. But _now_ look who owns it. Slymantec.
I'll bet they ruined -it-, too.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:15:24 -0700, Larry Jaques
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Peter Norton was a DOS god.
I used to refer to him as St. Peter.
>Once his company switched into the
>Windows arena, it lost power. I believe that he recognized that his
>day was done and sold it. Unfortunately, they got rights to his good
>name, and he has been done major disservices since that day.
>
>IMHO, Slymantic Norton products are absolute shit. Ptui!
>
>The only product on the market with the Norton name should be the
>removal tool. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Agreed!
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA