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[email protected] (BUB 209)

13/07/2004 11:50 PM

OT as Hell - Sam's Club

Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
the
30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
12.00
each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
industry
CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
mesmerise
the masses with mass quantities!"


This topic has 67 replies

Tt

Trent©

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:23 AM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:47:52 -0400, Philip Lewis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] (BUB 209) writes:
>>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>>the 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine
>
>Well... we've been members for several years now... and i think we
>make up the membership in gas prices (3-7 cents cheaper * 12 gallons *
>2 cars * 20 fillups/year = 14.40-33.60/yr ), kitty litter ($1-2
>cheaper * 2/3 months * 12 = $8-$16), and a several other items.
>Not to mention the time saved by not having to go to the regular
>stores as often, because we have it "in stock" due to mass quantities.
>
>you still have to watch prices, but if you watch for "good deals" on
>stuff you'll use, then you should at least break even.

In my area, most grocers with service stations are now giving gasoline
discounts...from 2¢ to 15¢ per gallon.

Sam's has always been high priced in my area. I had a business
membership for years...but finally dropped it. I can get much better
prices by just shopping around.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

c

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

17/07/2004 5:41 AM

Renata <[email protected]> wrote:

>I belong to all three 'cause I get one free membership and split the
>other 2 with friends (I'll split BJ's w/you if you split Costco w/me
>type of thing). If I had to chose one, I'd eliminate Costco and make
>a tough choice between the other 2, leaning a bit more toward BJs
>(which, incidentally, takes credit cards and coupons).
>That's in the DC area and YMMV.

My ex and I split a membership, she kept my last name so it is only
1/2 price a year :) We alternate paying for the re-up.

My favorite purchase is tyson chicken patties that I can't find
anywhere else. Saving a few cents on gas is a plus though driving a
38mpg saturn, it isn't that big a savings.

You have to pick your purchases. I've never bought computer media
there since Staples, walmart, officemax have better spot deals.

A gallon of olives will last a long time and even if you have to toss
some, will be much cheaper than buying 12oz at a time. Same for hot
peppers, pickles, bulk spices, and other food stuffs that will keep
for a bit. Meat prices vs Meijers varies as to savings.

It is also a nice place to get a few free snacks from the eldsters
that are giving out samples :)

Wes

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Allen Epps

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:11 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Jay
<[email protected]> wrote:

> With the warehouse stores, it is definitely a "pick your battle"
> thing. If you do the typical minivan practice of loading up the cart
> on every impulse buy you see because it is a good deal, you are
> hurting yourself on supersize crap you don't need. However, if you go
> to the store to fill a specific need, you can make great deals.

No I really need that 55 gallon drum of capers!! I do I do!

My wife and I are not allowed to go alone. together we provide a bit of
sanity check on each other.

Allen

PL

Philip Lewis

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 9:47 AM

[email protected] (BUB 209) writes:
>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>the 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine

Well... we've been members for several years now... and i think we
make up the membership in gas prices (3-7 cents cheaper * 12 gallons *
2 cars * 20 fillups/year = 14.40-33.60/yr ), kitty litter ($1-2
cheaper * 2/3 months * 12 = $8-$16), and a several other items.
Not to mention the time saved by not having to go to the regular
stores as often, because we have it "in stock" due to mass quantities.

you still have to watch prices, but if you watch for "good deals" on
stuff you'll use, then you should at least break even.

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"RonB"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

13/07/2004 10:43 PM

I think it pays, if you use the membership. I recently priced a set of BF
Goodrich light truck tires all over Wichita, KS at prices ranging from $465
to $579 (installed). I got them at Sam's for $406. (If they had made their
1 hour installation guarantee they would have cost $436). This alone paid
this year's membership. We also save in bulk groceries and a lot of bulk
packaged clothing items like t-shirts, socks, etc. Some of Sam's meat and
frozen food items are of good quality. I have also seen some very good
prices on items like laptops, televisions and power tools. You just have to
be willing to buy the single model they sell.

Heck - you can't beat the free meal they provide in the aisles every
Saturday and Sunday afternoon. Yeah - no pride!

"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

Bb

BruceR

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 11:40 AM



> [email protected] (BUB 209) writes:
>
>>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>>the
>>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
>>
>
>
Costco's "executive" membership is pricy ($100) but if you do virtually
all your shopping there like I do (only real shopping in 100 mile
radius) the 2% rebate covers the cost of the membership over a year.
Fate has it that I plunk down $300 on every visit no matter if I shop
with a long list or pop in because I happen to be in the neighborhood....
-Bruce



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BruceR

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:05 AM


>>
>>>[email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in message
>>>news:<[email protected]>...
>>>
>>>>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain
>

My observations are that their computer stuff is generally over priced
since this stuff is always getting cheaper (fast). The power tools are
the same way. I usually can find a place on-line with a better deal when
sales tax and shipping costs are accounted for. Costco's return policy
is top notch however and if I want some tool or other gizmo that I have
a feeling might be "too good" of a deal I'll buy at Costco since I know
I can return it. This happened with a 120GB disk drive, failed after 5
months of slight use. It was still under manufactures warranty, but I
only had to go to the service desk to get a 100% refund.

-Bruce



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"George"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 4:44 PM

How about 50/50? They used to sell a half fresh, half powdered mix as milk
in Alaska. Didn't taste that bad, and was all we could afford.

Milk is a more efficient way to eat grass than beef.

"Trent©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Its not the calories...its the carbs that you were eating!
>
> I never drink milk. I drink 1/2 & 1/2 ...or heavy/whipping cream.
>
> And, yes...I've lost considerable weight, too.
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

17/07/2004 9:20 AM

Sure it's the BED creaking?

"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4H5Kc.47964$ek5.30431@pd7tw2no...
> > > We took back our Sealy 'king' bed today and got back $ 1293.00
> > > Bought an ice cream and a Coke and left
> >
> > What was wrong with it?
>
>
> Noisy, sounded (and felt) like sitting on a piece of carpet with a bunch
of
> empty coke cans underneath..Crunk crunk crunk!
> Got a Simmons "Backcare" pocketed coil instead...its silent
>
> BTW, We have a 15 yr old Sealy thats fine.. Dont make 'em like they used
to.
>
>
>

RN

"Rudy"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

17/07/2004 8:45 AM

> > We took back our Sealy 'king' bed today and got back $ 1293.00
> > Bought an ice cream and a Coke and left
>
> What was wrong with it?


Noisy, sounded (and felt) like sitting on a piece of carpet with a bunch of
empty coke cans underneath..Crunk crunk crunk!
Got a Simmons "Backcare" pocketed coil instead...its silent

BTW, We have a 15 yr old Sealy thats fine.. Dont make 'em like they used to.


Bb

"Beej-in-GA"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 6:05 AM


"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For what it's worth, very little of that $4.50 makes it to the farmer,
> something like $12.00/cwt. Figure about 8 pounds to the gallon, that
> is about a dollar a gallon to the farmer; the rest is processing costs
> (pasteurization) and markup.

Hi Scott,
If I recall correctly, what you say is true up to a point. They (dairy
companies such as Borden and others) do pay by weight, but I think they pay
by the weight of butter fat that is in the raw milk. That is one thing that
the inspectors look at when they come out to a farm and farmers keep an
eagle eye on as well. This can vary greatly over the life of an animal with
such variables as breed of cow, type of fodder, age of animal, and general
physical condition, and yes, even the amount of rainfall in a year, or so
I've heard in Biology and ag science courses. Anyway, the upshot is that
the price the farmer gets for his raw milk is based on the richness of that
milk in butter fat, cream if you will.

> Out here, it runs about $3.85 at the grocers; at my grocer, the second
> gallon is only $1.00. So that's about 2.50 a gallon; not bad for the
> Bay Area.
>
> scott

Those prices sound real attractive. If only you could trust the ground to
stay where you found it. <G>

Later,
Beej

IG

"Israel Goldshmid"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 1:00 AM

for diapers go to amazon.com alot of huggies "big paks" for $7.49 (free
shipping over $25.00)


"Old Oak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:vl%[email protected]...
> John wrote:
> > I go there about 4 times a year and load up on all of the things I can
buy
> > in bulk. Hey, I'm single and hate to shop. Soaps and stuff only need to
be
> > bought once a year. Frozen stuff about once a quarter. The membership
> > doesn't pay for me in actuall dollars but the time I'm not in the local
> > supermarket is well worth the $$$ to me. YMMV.
> >
> >
> >
>
> The savings on diapers pays for the membership. Milk's also a lot
> cheaper than at the store.

Rb

Renata

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 7:53 AM

Hmm. Around here, I'd say the opposite is true and Sam's has the
better stuff and variety. Costco has a lot of their own brand of crap
and not enough national brands. Sam's has a better selection of books
at better prices. Religious books are more extensive at Sam's but
only one section of a broad array of books. I htink Sam's has the
best selection of books overall, though BJs is close (but more $).
CDs at Costco, for a while, were some kind of generic brand
compilations, mostly. Bakery is better at BJs, pretty good at Costco,
not bad at Sam's. Etc. More extensive variety of fruits and veggies
at Costco.

Also belong to BJ's and their stuff is just a tad more "high end".

The furniture stores are selling pressboard furniture these days too,
unless you go to a high end place.

Gas savings are significant around here (sometimes 20 cents a gallon
for premium).

I belong to all three 'cause I get one free membership and split the
other 2 with friends (I'll split BJ's w/you if you split Costco w/me
type of thing). If I had to chose one, I'd eliminate Costco and make
a tough choice between the other 2, leaning a bit more toward BJs
(which, incidentally, takes credit cards and coupons).
That's in the DC area and YMMV.

Renata

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:17:00 +0000 (UTC), Kiwanda <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
-snip-
>Costco, which I used to have when I lived in Oregon, is much
>better though-- it makes Sam's look like a super-sized version of
>Walmart. Costco has real books, real beer, real wine, real
>furniture-- Sam's has only bad religious novels, bud light, box
>wine, and pressboard furniture. The same comparison holds true
>for the food and clothing. But, as a long-time warehouse shopper
>I can't stop.
>
>Two years ago we bought enough laminate hardwood flooring at
>Sam's to do three rooms in our house; the same product on sale at
>Menard's was 35% more. That's pretty typical.
>
>-Derek

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 5:14 PM

Chad Bender <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:49:56 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Kiwanda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> We save far more than $30 a year on milk alone at Sam's.
>>
>> Yours is the second message noting milk prices - what do they run a
>> gallon? (Assuming one doesn't have to buy it by the 55 gal. drum.)
>>
>> In my little 'burg, inevitably one of the three grocery stores almost
>> always has a weekly coupon for milk at $1.88 to $2.00/gal, vs. $3.65 or
>> so regular price.
>
>Holly cow! (literally) Out here on Long Island we're paying about
>$4.50/gal at the grocery store, and that in a state with a massive dairy
>industry.

For what it's worth, very little of that $4.50 makes it to the farmer,
something like $12.00/cwt. Figure about 8 pounds to the gallon, that
is about a dollar a gallon to the farmer; the rest is processing costs
(pasteurization) and markup.

Out here, it runs about $3.85 at the grocers; at my grocer, the second
gallon is only $1.00. So that's about 2.50 a gallon; not bad for the
Bay Area.

scott

jJ

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 7:06 AM

[email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

I go to Costco and Sams.

Last night I went to Costco and saved $30 in one shot. They had Cedar
Filled dog beds for $17. I compared to PetSmart for $50+.

Sugar Free Red Bull. Wife loves the stuff. At $30 for 30, this is much
better than the 2.50 a can she was paying at the gas station every
day.

Baking/cooking bulks. I don't food shop there, but I save a lot of
money on Baking Soda for the laundry room. I pay the same as at the
supermarket, but get 5 times as much. Chicken bouillion cubes. Same
price, 10 times as much.

It also a size convenience thing. When the wife is making 4 batches of
cookies for her students, it is just plain easier to go to Sam's

I also do Costco, which I find is better for higher end stuff. I
travel frequently and I found that thier $40 "Kirkland" wheeled
suitcase is as good as a Tumi or Travelpro for 1/10 the cost.

I also picked up a roll-top desk at Costco a few years back for $399.
Saw the EXACT same one (Brand, wood, fit & finish) at a local
furniture shop for $1300.

Costco roses are better here than at the florist. 2 dozen for $13.
Once every few weeks for the wife and I get less flak for tool
purchases.

With the warehouse stores, it is definitely a "pick your battle"
thing. If you do the typical minivan practice of loading up the cart
on every impulse buy you see because it is a good deal, you are
hurting yourself on supersize crap you don't need. However, if you go
to the store to fill a specific need, you can make great deals.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:47 AM

On 13 Jul 2004 23:50:31 GMT, [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote:

>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>the
>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership.

My membership is free via a credit union.

We buy specific stuff there, like jugs of cut fresh fruit, Mobil 1,
contact lens solution, etc... Usually, I try to stay out of there,
because I try to shop anywhere but Wal-Mart. I try whenever possible
to shop in locally owned businesses.

FWIW, I've seen stuff that both Sam's and Wal-Mart carry selling for
less in Wal-Mart.

Barry

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to B a r r y on 14/07/2004 10:47 AM

14/07/2004 10:55 AM

Barry notes:

>FWIW, I've seen stuff that both Sam's and Wal-Mart carry selling for
>less in Wal-Mart.

Another note on Wal-Mart: frequently, twofers sell for more than you'd spend
buying two singles of an item. Recently, I've noticed that acetaminophin with
two 100 tab bottles in the pack sells for about 14 cents more than two single
packs; last week, Coke 24 packs were on sale, for a buck more than two 12
packs.

This is marketing in its finest hour. Over the years, we've been educated to
believe that buying larger packs saves money.

Today, you'd damned well better check, because it may well cost you
considerably more.

Charlie Self
"When you appeal to force, there's one thing you must never do - lose." Dwight
D. Eisenhower

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 2:02 AM

I used to date a woman who was a member at Sams Club. She did save money on
much of what she bought but she ended up with quantities of stuff that were
so much more than she needed that she ended up giving away a lot of the
excess. So most of it turned out to cost her more in the long run.

Lee
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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 3:35 PM

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

> The pièce de résistance is their diner. Polish dog and a
> Pepsi for a buck and a half. Yeah, BUDDY!

Here's a non-culinary "Yeah, BUDDY!" from Sam's:

http://e-woodshop.net/files/rockers.jpg

Teak wood, well built and solid, BIG rockers (seats are 24" wide) Price:
$US129/ea

Takes the mystery of why it's hard to make a living making furniture .... I
literally can't buy the wood locally for that price!

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Last update: 7/10/04

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:19 PM

We pay about $2.25 per gallon in Texas. How long will a gallon set in the
refrigerator before it spoils? We get about 10 days on average.


Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:24 AM

"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:hSpJc.27312$ek5.11043@pd7tw2no...
>
> We took back our Sealy 'king' bed today and got back $ 1293.00
> Bought an ice cream and a Coke and left

What was wrong with it?

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

13/07/2004 9:08 PM

"BUB 209" wrote in message ...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership.

In this hot, humid, Houston climate, I wear t-shirts in the shop and often
change 2 or 3 times a day. Until just recently Sam's had the best damn
t-shirts in the Western Hemisphere for shop use: Pluma "Heavyweight" cotton
t's ... I've got some that are ten years old and still fit for shop use.

Now the same asshole MBA's who have screwed up everything else in this
country have gotten their licks in and the "new" Sam t-shirts are the same
price, but the cotton is so cheap and thin it will barely survive 3
washings. I tell ya, this country is going to the dogs .... starting with
Sam's.

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Last update: 7/10/04

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 5:00 PM

"Beej-in-GA" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> For what it's worth, very little of that $4.50 makes it to the farmer,
>> something like $12.00/cwt. Figure about 8 pounds to the gallon, that
>> is about a dollar a gallon to the farmer; the rest is processing costs
>> (pasteurization) and markup.
>
>Hi Scott,
>If I recall correctly, what you say is true up to a point. They (dairy
>companies such as Borden and others) do pay by weight, but I think they pay
>by the weight of butter fat that is in the raw milk. That is one thing that
>the inspectors look at when they come out to a farm and farmers keep an
>eagle eye on as well. This can vary greatly over the life of an animal with
>such variables as breed of cow, type of fodder, age of animal, and general
>physical condition, and yes, even the amount of rainfall in a year, or so
>I've heard in Biology and ag science courses. Anyway, the upshot is that
>the price the farmer gets for his raw milk is based on the richness of that
>milk in butter fat, cream if you will.

Yup. The butterfat content does get factored into the cwt price.

>
>> Out here, it runs about $3.85 at the grocers; at my grocer, the second
>> gallon is only $1.00. So that's about 2.50 a gallon; not bad for the
>> Bay Area.
>>
>> scott
>
>Those prices sound real attractive. If only you could trust the ground to
>stay where you found it. <G>

So far, so good. I've survived both Wittier Narrows and Loma Prieta with
no problems (9 miles from the epicenter of the first, 20 from the second).
Both in the high 6's. Thought they were following me around for a while.

scott

xn

"xrongor"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

13/07/2004 8:06 PM

i am convinced that at the end of they day you end up with more stuff at a
slightly better price overall, but spend more money because you just cant
resist 100 pounds of tootsie rolls for 20 bucks <g> so do i actually save
any money? i.e. have more money in my pocket because of sams club or cosco?
definitely not.

i think your description is very accurate. you get mesmerized!!

randy

"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

Bb

"Beej-in-GA"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 5:40 AM


"Chad Bender" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:49:56 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>
> >
> > In my little 'burg, inevitably one of the three grocery stores almost
> > always has a weekly coupon for milk at $1.88 to $2.00/gal, vs. $3.65 or
> > so regular price.
>
> Holly cow! (literally) Out here on Long Island we're paying about
> $4.50/gal at the grocery store, and that in a state with a massive dairy
> industry.
>
> Chad

I wonder how much of that is taxes and fees. Or Guido and Nunzio? Be
willing to bet there's a large amount of that in New York. Would it be any
cheaper across the river?
Later,
Beej


--
"That government governs best that governs least."
Thomas Jefferson

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 11:07 PM

Chad Bender <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:28:29 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:
>
>
>
>> I may be waaaay off base, but I also think some of the pricing
>> difference has to do with the economic base of the community - meaning,
>> "what the market will bear" with an additional thought to making a basic
>> staple of childhood nutrition available to segments that may not buy it
>> if it were more expensive.
>>
>>
>That's probably true. But the $4.50/gal is not so far off for NY City as
>well. I'm out in suburbia Long Island, so you could argue that my area is
>more affluent than a lot of NY City and can bear the $4.50/gal. But there
>are lots of low income families with children in Queens, Brooklyn, the
>Bronx, etc, and the high milk prices are a burden on them.
>
>I tend to think that right now a lot of the price is because of the dairy
>farms. The price here and in the city has gone up by more than $1/gal
>over the past year, and that's pretty hard to attribute to the
>distributor.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/MD_DA210.txt

I don't think milk prices at the producer have increased
substantially over the past few years. From the link above,
western NY prices are lower than the northeast average.

scott
>
>
>Chad

KK

Kiwanda

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 1:17 AM

[email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or
really
> save even the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership.

I much prefer Costco, but since we only have Sam's here it has to
do. We save far more than $30 a year on milk alone at Sam's.
There's also at least one item we buy every month or so that nets
at least that much in savings. We've been buying our tires there
for about 15 years, some groceries, a fair amount of clothing,
diapers when we used them, kitty litter, etc. etc. etc. Not
everything is cheaper there, but if you pay attention you'll
easily save the membership fee quickly-- often on a single item.

Costco, which I used to have when I lived in Oregon, is much
better though-- it makes Sam's look like a super-sized version of
Walmart. Costco has real books, real beer, real wine, real
furniture-- Sam's has only bad religious novels, bud light, box
wine, and pressboard furniture. The same comparison holds true
for the food and clothing. But, as a long-time warehouse shopper
I can't stop.

Two years ago we bought enough laminate hardwood flooring at
Sam's to do three rooms in our house; the same product on sale at
Menard's was 35% more. That's pretty typical.

-Derek

gG

in reply to Kiwanda on 14/07/2004 1:17 AM

14/07/2004 2:17 AM

I agree, only go to Sams/Costco if you know what things are supposed to cost.
They have deals on big containers of stuff but if you don't use stuff before it
goes bad it is not a bargain.
I buy non perishables and things I use a lot of.
They also have great deals on close out items but that is not predictable and
it is easy to get a great deal on something you will never use if you get
caught up in the moment.

BB

Brad Bruce

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:26 AM

"Lee Gordon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I used to date a woman who was a member at Sams Club. She did save
> money on much of what she bought but she ended up with quantities of
> stuff that were so much more than she needed that she ended up giving
> away a lot of the excess. So most of it turned out to cost her more
> in the long run.
>
> Lee

You have to check out how they mean by "in bulk". I've noticed that "Sams
Club" sell the large containers while another club "BJ's" sells multi-packs
(many containers like you'd buy in the store, in one wrapper)

NJBrad

pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 1:13 AM

[email protected] (Jay) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain

<Snipped>

I don't think we EVER get out of Costco for less than $300....

Patriarch

KK

Kiwanda

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 1:57 AM

Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 13 Jul 2004 23:50:31 GMT, [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote:
>
>>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or
really
>>save even the
>>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine
whithout
>>looking around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack
of
>>apple pies - for 12.00
>>each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind
of
>>food industry
>>CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants
swarming
>>over a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going
off -
>>"We'll mesmerise
>>the masses with mass quantities!"
>
> I have not seen anything woodworker-related in
> Sam's Club.

Depends on what "related" means I guess. Tonight I was at Sam's
for milk, greens, freezer bags, and some other odds-n-ends and
took at look at the tools. They have Porter-Cable circular saws
(6" I think)on sale for $75. I didn't see the model number, but
there's nothing else on the net for that price. They had the
small P-C rotary cutter (aka "rotozip") on clearance for $25, and
a big framing nailer for under $200. (I didn't look closely at
any of these as I don't need them.)

They typically have PC nailers, drills, and circular saws.
Occasionally they have Delta or PC miter saws in the $300 range.
A few sizes of compressors, inc. some 60 gal 220v models. Great
prices on ladders (1/2 of what Menard's charges for the exact
model when I bought my 28' there). Other shop equipment of
various sorts, all generally about 30% less than any place else
I've ever seen it.

It's hard to beat the prices on some things there, for sure. And
contrary to another poster's experience, we can still get 50 and
100# bags of flour at our Sams.

-Derek

RN

"Rudy"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

17/07/2004 11:44 PM

"> Sure it's the BED creaking?

It "crunks" , I creak

Rr

"RonB"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:21 AM

Oh Yeah - I forgot. Sam's public price on gasoline is always competitive.
When you subtract the .05/gallon member's discount, it more than pays for
the membership (even if you aren't driving my 8.1 Liter Chevy pickup).

*********************************************

"RonB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:3_1Jc.351$Oi5.155@okepread07...
> I think it pays, if you use the membership. I recently priced a set of BF
> Goodrich light truck tires all over Wichita, KS at prices ranging from
$465
> to $579 (installed). I got them at Sam's for $406. (If they had made
their
> 1 hour installation guarantee they would have cost $436). This alone paid
> this year's membership. We also save in bulk groceries and a lot of bulk
> packaged clothing items like t-shirts, socks, etc. Some of Sam's meat and
> frozen food items are of good quality. I have also seen some very good
> prices on items like laptops, televisions and power tools. You just have
to
> be willing to buy the single model they sell.
>
> Heck - you can't beat the free meal they provide in the aisles every
> Saturday and Sunday afternoon. Yeah - no pride!
>
> "

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 4:12 AM

"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:hwmJc.2345

> compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some special milks do
last
> a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per gallon is a result of milk
that
> lasts longer.

I've switched brands of milk in the past because the newer brand didn't go
sour as fast. The company explanation was that it was packaged differently
allowing less light to be absorbed by the milk.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

18/07/2004 12:22 AM

"Rudy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:4H5Kc.47964

> > What was wrong with it?
>
> Noisy, sounded (and felt) like sitting on a piece of carpet with a bunch
of
> empty coke cans underneath..Crunk crunk crunk!

Forgot to take the plastic wrap off it? :)

TD

Tim Douglass

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 10:33 AM

On 13 Jul 2004 23:50:31 GMT, [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote:

>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>the
>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
>around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
>12.00
>each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
>industry
>CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
>a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
>mesmerise
>the masses with mass quantities!"

Used to do Sams when I lived in Idaho, now (and before that) it is
Costco. Bulk food warehouses aren't what they were before the yuppie
crowd discovered them (they don't have flour in 100lb sacks any more)
but if you are price savvy you can do OK. Store brands are smart, name
brands are generally less than in a grocery store but still far more
expensive than store brands. If the choice is between name brand in
bulk at Costco and store brand in small containers at Safeway I
usually do the Safeway thing.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Gn

"Gary"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 8:12 AM

"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

I'm a warehouse junkie, I have both Sam's and Costco memberships. Sam's
gasoline is consistently 5 cents cheaper than other gas stations in the
area. My wife swears that the bulk laundry detergents and bleaches are
diluted.

Gary

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 9:51 PM

Leon wrote:

> We pay about $2.25 per gallon in Texas. How long will a gallon set in
> the
> refrigerator before it spoils? We get about 10 days on average.

I presume you're talking milk? If so, freeze it. Don't know what the
plastic jugs do but the paper ones take it just fine. Shake it up before
you open it--freezing tends to separate it.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Ks

"Kevin"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:06 AM

I've been a member for a few years now and have been pretty darn careful on
watching the prices at Sam's vs. the regular stores.
Seems the prices at Sam's are between the regular prices at Kroger's, Marsh
and several others and the sale prices at these places.


"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 10:27 AM

Trent© wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:08 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Leon wrote:
>>
>>> We pay about $2.25 per gallon in Texas. How long will a gallon set in
>>> the
>>> refrigerator before it spoils? We get about 10 days on average.
>>
>>I presume you're talking milk? If so, freeze it. Don't know what the
>>plastic jugs do but the paper ones take it just fine. Shake it up before
>>you open it--freezing tends to separate it.
>
> And it never tastes quite the same.
>
> At least that's been my experience.

Dunno. I never really noticed a difference.

> Have a nice week...
>
> Trent©
>
> What do you call a smart blonde?
> A golden retriever.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Tt

Trent©

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 2:51 PM

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:44:09 GMT, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:12:40 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:hwmJc.2345
>>
>>> compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some special milks do
>>last
>>> a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per gallon is a result of milk
>>that
>>> lasts longer.
>>
>>I've switched brands of milk in the past because the newer brand didn't go
>>sour as fast. The company explanation was that it was packaged differently
>>allowing less light to be absorbed by the milk.
>>
>
>
>I stopped buying milk last year, and before that drank milk all my
>life. The price got rather high, and I decided to drink water
>instead. I was amazed how many high-calorie foods (pie, cookies,
>chocolate, graham crackers, etc) I ate with milk. I lost 40 pounds!
>Now I buy powdered milk and use it in my coffee. If a recipe calls
>for milk, I just mix up some from the powdered. No more sour or
>spoiled milk !

Its not the calories...its the carbs that you were eating!

I never drink milk. I drink 1/2 & 1/2 ...or heavy/whipping cream.

And, yes...I've lost considerable weight, too.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 2:08 AM


"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership.


Can't speak for Sam's, but have a membership at BJ's. I know I save at least
two or three times my membership cost. I've save it on a single purchase a
couple of times.

Know prices so you can compare. Example: Supermarket boneless or roast is
$4 a pound. BJ's price is $1.89. You have to buy the whole loin so we cut
it into three ices and freeze.

Fill a propane tank. Local stations $12. BJ's $7.49

Bought a high definition TV and saved $100 over any other source I found.

Worth it for me.
Ed


Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:23 AM

"Beej-in-GA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Out here, it runs about $3.85 at the grocers; at my grocer, the second
> > gallon is only $1.00. So that's about 2.50 a gallon; not bad for the
> > Bay Area.

> Those prices sound real attractive. If only you could trust the ground to
> stay where you found it. <G>

Well, isn't it preferable to have milk shaken not stirred? :)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 1:15 PM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:18:59 GMT, "Randy Chapman"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>Diapers, forumla, shampoo, frozen chicken breasts, gas, milk, ice cream,
>ritz crackers, mac'n'cheese, tuna, cold cereal, cereal bars, dvds, games
>(xbox, computer, etc), music cds, at least, are all considerably cheaper
>than other places. The gas station personell, however, are horribly rude.

Costco for: Birdie Boobs (chicken breasts to those of you
who sport very little imagination), Seattle Mountain Grown
Sumatran Coffee (ta-die-for good), Lindsay olives, books,
winter jackets, kitchen goodies, and the Kirkland vitamins.
Ibuprofen in 1,000 count bottles for $9.29. Helps after a
long (short) day in the shop/garden/behind the weedeater.
Gas is usually, but not always, cheaper, too.

The pièce de résistance is their diner. Polish dog and a
Pepsi for a buck and a half. Yeah, BUDDY!


>It really depends on what and how much you buy. We have five kids with one
>on the way, and go through the above items like craz.....

Condolences.


---
Annoy a politician: Be trustworthy, faithful, and honest!
---
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development

Bb

"Beej-in-GA"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 5:51 AM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:hwmJc.2345
>
> > compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some special milks do
> last
> > a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per gallon is a result of milk
> that
> > lasts longer.
>
> I've switched brands of milk in the past because the newer brand didn't go
> sour as fast. The company explanation was that it was packaged differently
> allowing less light to be absorbed by the milk.
>
>

Sounds like Scotty Mayfield. Might be true, can't say, I do know the lower
the milkfat content, the longer it'll keep in the fridge. Consider, 100%
Whole Milk lasts as has been said 10-14 days, skim milk will have a date on
it at Kroger as much as three weeks out. Pretty cool.
Later,
Beej


--
"Molon Labe!" (Come and take them!)
Leonidas of Sparta 480 BC.

bb

[email protected] (brian lanning)

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 2:44 PM

For us, it's the same as what others have said. You have to be
careful what you buy. For example, there's a goofy type of mozzarella
cheese I like to get. All the local grocery stores have it for $8,
sam's has it for $4. Luckily, my wife is real good about knowing what
a good price is. I would never keep track of it all. They also have
things I can't get anywhere else. For years, we've been buying these
bags of chicken. My daughter started calling it "circle chicken" at
about 3 years old. She's 12 now. It's a bag of about 40 skinless,
boneless chicken thighs. They have other parts also. I think it's $9
for the bag. They have spiral cut hams that are usually too
expensive, but sometimes go on sale of a spectacular price. They have
pans of frozen lazagne that are really good also. Then there's the
pre-made frozen meatballs. There's a lot of things.

brian


[email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 7:25 AM

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:13:22 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>[email protected] (Jay) wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote in message
>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain

For some things Costco (no Sam's Clubs up here) is a good deal.
On others, it's no better than local stores. On a few items,
it's more expensive than local stores. And since Medford it a
50 mile RT drive, I go only when I need something specific, like
COFFEE! (Or a polish/kosher-beef dog fix.)


><Snipped>
>
>I don't think we EVER get out of Costco for less than $300....

I must be more frugal than you guys. I have called it "The
$100 Store" for eons now. Of course, I don't have a wife
hanging on my arm wanting to go down EVERY SINGLE AISLE and
looking at EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE STORE, either.


---
Annoy a politician: Be trustworthy, faithful, and honest!
---
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development

RN

"Rudy"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 6:54 AM

"> I don't think we EVER get out of Costco for less than $300....

We took back our Sealy 'king' bed today and got back $ 1293.00
Bought an ice cream and a Coke and left
R

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 3:05 AM

We never have any go bad, but I have heard that some states have different
standards for the way milk is processed and it lasts a relative long time
compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some special milks do last
a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per gallon is a result of milk that
lasts longer.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>
> > We pay about $2.25 per gallon in Texas. How long will a gallon set in
> > the
> > refrigerator before it spoils? We get about 10 days on average.
>
> I presume you're talking milk? If so, freeze it. Don't know what the
> plastic jugs do but the paper ones take it just fine. Shake it up before
> you open it--freezing tends to separate it.
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

16/07/2004 1:43 PM


"Fly-by-Night CC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Are you sure your fridge is set at a cold enough temp? Something's wrong
> somewhere in the scheme of things if your milk is spoiling in a week.
>
> I just bought 2 gallons of 1% yesterday (7/14) with a sell by date of
> 7/19. Typically our milk lasts a good 7 days after the sellby before
> starting to turn - that gives us about 2 weeks from purchase to use it
> up.


It seems that if we keep our milk past the date stamped on the bottle we end
up with a Cottage Cheese.

Tt

Trent©

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 9:41 AM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:51:08 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Leon wrote:
>
>> We pay about $2.25 per gallon in Texas. How long will a gallon set in
>> the
>> refrigerator before it spoils? We get about 10 days on average.
>
>I presume you're talking milk? If so, freeze it. Don't know what the
>plastic jugs do but the paper ones take it just fine. Shake it up before
>you open it--freezing tends to separate it.

And it never tastes quite the same.

At least that's been my experience.


Have a nice week...

Trent©

What do you call a smart blonde?
A golden retriever.

RC

"Randy Chapman"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 2:18 PM


Diapers, forumla, shampoo, frozen chicken breasts, gas, milk, ice cream,
ritz crackers, mac'n'cheese, tuna, cold cereal, cereal bars, dvds, games
(xbox, computer, etc), music cds, at least, are all considerably cheaper
than other places. The gas station personell, however, are horribly rude.
It really depends on what and how much you buy. We have five kids with one
on the way, and go through the above items like craz.....

--randy

"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 9:28 PM

On 13 Jul 2004 23:50:31 GMT, [email protected] (BUB 209) wrote:

>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>the
>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
>around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
>12.00
>each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
>industry
>CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
>a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
>mesmerise
>the masses with mass quantities!"


I have visited Sam's Club. My employer gave free membership cards
but I only shop there once or twice a year as it is over 30 miles
away. It would be great for catering and someone who throws frequent
parties, but not too useful for small families or those who have
limited storage space. I have not seen anything woodworker-related in
Sam's Club.

Bb

"Beej-in-GA"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 5:27 AM


"Jay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I also picked up a roll-top desk at Costco a few years back for $399.
> Saw the EXACT same one (Brand, wood, fit & finish) at a local
> furniture shop for $1300.
>
> Costco roses are better here than at the florist. 2 dozen for $13.
> Once every few weeks for the wife and I get less flak for tool
> purchases.

Hi Jay,
You've hit a few nerves with me. Good ones, don't worry. I have also seen
those big furniture items at Costco and a few at Sam's, I have always looked
at these things suspiciously. I have been burnt by buying a piece only to
take it home and find that it was actually constructed of MDF with
"a-picture-of-wood-on-sticky- shelf-paper-type-stuff" plastered all over it.
But I guess I have seen some higher priced stuff that was real wood. My Dad
used to say to let your eyes be your market, this is true in the warehouse
stores for sure. Also good idea about the roses, hadn't even thought of
that angle. Here a couple of years ago around Christmas time I reckon, I
saw some Jet 10" Contractor grade Table saws in Costco. Just about the time
I got the money up to buy one, they ran out. My luck! They were I think 50
or more dollars less than anywhere else I could find, if memory serves.
They came with the jetfence I think. Not the Biesmeyer clone.
Later,
Beej


--
"Just because you're paranoid
doesn't mean the world's not
out to get you."
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Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 12:44 PM

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:12:40 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:hwmJc.2345
>
>> compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some special milks do
>last
>> a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per gallon is a result of milk
>that
>> lasts longer.
>
>I've switched brands of milk in the past because the newer brand didn't go
>sour as fast. The company explanation was that it was packaged differently
>allowing less light to be absorbed by the milk.
>


I stopped buying milk last year, and before that drank milk all my
life. The price got rather high, and I decided to drink water
instead. I was amazed how many high-calorie foods (pie, cookies,
chocolate, graham crackers, etc) I ate with milk. I lost 40 pounds!
Now I buy powdered milk and use it in my coffee. If a recipe calls
for milk, I just mix up some from the powdered. No more sour or
spoiled milk !

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 2:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Chad Bender <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a hard time buying that my $4+/gal milk is higher quality than your
> cheaper milk. At Stop & Shop I used to get Farmland brand, in 1/2 gallon
> paper cartons (there is not an appreciable mark up for buying the 1/2 gal
> instead of the gallon -- only a few cents/gal). Farmland would last in my
> fridge for only a few days (3-4) before it started to smell, and it
> certainly wasn't drinkable after a week. Recently, I've been buying the
> Stop & Shop brand, and it lasts a solid week before any noticable smell.
>
> The sell by date stamped on the cartons here is never very far into the
> future - at most a week. That said, it doesn't always correlate with
> when the milk goes bad.

Are you sure your fridge is set at a cold enough temp? Something's wrong
somewhere in the scheme of things if your milk is spoiling in a week.

I just bought 2 gallons of 1% yesterday (7/14) with a sell by date of
7/19. Typically our milk lasts a good 7 days after the sellby before
starting to turn - that gives us about 2 weeks from purchase to use it
up.

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 11:28 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

>
> For what it's worth, very little of that $4.50 makes it to the farmer,
> something like $12.00/cwt. Figure about 8 pounds to the gallon, that
> is about a dollar a gallon to the farmer; the rest is processing costs
> (pasteurization) and markup.
>
> Out here, it runs about $3.85 at the grocers; at my grocer, the second
> gallon is only $1.00. So that's about 2.50 a gallon; not bad for the
> Bay Area.

I may be waaaay off base, but I also think some of the pricing
difference has to do with the economic base of the community - meaning,
"what the market will bear" with an additional thought to making a basic
staple of childhood nutrition available to segments that may not buy it
if it were more expensive.

Here in semi-rural Oregon we have a relatively large migrant community
that works the surrounding agriculture. I'm suspecting the commonly
available coupon for a gallon at under $2 is aimed at this segment. I
don't know for sure of course...

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

13/07/2004 10:49 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Kiwanda <[email protected]> wrote:

> We save far more than $30 a year on milk alone at Sam's.

Yours is the second message noting milk prices - what do they run a
gallon? (Assuming one doesn't have to buy it by the 55 gal. drum.)

In my little 'burg, inevitably one of the three grocery stores almost
always has a weekly coupon for milk at $1.88 to $2.00/gal, vs. $3.65 or
so regular price.

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>

CB

Chad Bender

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 11:56 AM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:49:56 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Kiwanda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We save far more than $30 a year on milk alone at Sam's.
>
> Yours is the second message noting milk prices - what do they run a
> gallon? (Assuming one doesn't have to buy it by the 55 gal. drum.)
>
> In my little 'burg, inevitably one of the three grocery stores almost
> always has a weekly coupon for milk at $1.88 to $2.00/gal, vs. $3.65 or
> so regular price.

Holly cow! (literally) Out here on Long Island we're paying about
$4.50/gal at the grocery store, and that in a state with a massive dairy
industry.

Chad

CB

Chad Bender

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 5:06 PM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:28:29 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:



> I may be waaaay off base, but I also think some of the pricing
> difference has to do with the economic base of the community - meaning,
> "what the market will bear" with an additional thought to making a basic
> staple of childhood nutrition available to segments that may not buy it
> if it were more expensive.
>
>
That's probably true. But the $4.50/gal is not so far off for NY City as
well. I'm out in suburbia Long Island, so you could argue that my area is
more affluent than a lot of NY City and can bear the $4.50/gal. But there
are lots of low income families with children in Queens, Brooklyn, the
Bronx, etc, and the high milk prices are a burden on them.

I tend to think that right now a lot of the price is because of the dairy
farms. The price here and in the city has gone up by more than $1/gal
over the past year, and that's pretty hard to attribute to the
distributor.


Chad

dD

[email protected] (David Hall)

in reply to Chad Bender on 14/07/2004 5:06 PM

15/07/2004 1:12 AM

In most areas of the country (and most definitely in the People's Republic of
Pennsylvania) there are government mandated MINIMUM prices that milk can be
sold for. Very seldomly is it sold for more than the minimum and NEVER for
less. You will get fined heavily if caught selling for less than the minimum.
The Pennsylvania Milk Marketing Board strictly enforces this law. A couple of
years ago the School District I work for went to bid for its dairy and juice
products. All vendors bid the state minimum prices for the dairy (and we use a
LOT of milk) but there was some seriously competitive pricing on the juice.
After we awarded the contract to the lowest bidder one of their competitors
filed a complaint with the Milk Marketing Board alleging that the winner was
effectively selling milk below the minimum by selling juice products below
their cost. The Milk Marketing Board proceeded to investigate and 4 or 5 months
later ruled that the company had "underpriced" the milk by selling juice below
cost. They forced the company to increase their prices to us, forced us to pay
the increased price for all products already purchased and consumed to date as
well as all future purchases and fined the company heavily. This was for
charging a public school district too LITTLE!!!! I could not believe it when I
had to write that check. That is government in this so-called "capitalist"
country ;)

Dave Hall

> I may be waaaay off base, but I also think some of the pricing
>> difference has to do with the economic base of the community - meaning,
>> "what the market will bear" with an additional thought to making a basic
>> staple of childhood nutrition available to segments that may not buy it
>> if it were more expensive.
>>
>>
>That's probably true. But the $4.50/gal is not so far off for NY City as
>well. I'm out in suburbia Long Island, so you could argue that my area is
>more affluent than a lot of NY City and can bear the $4.50/gal. But there
>are lots of low income families with children in Queens, Brooklyn, the
>Bronx, etc, and the high milk prices are a burden on them.
>
>I tend to think that right now a lot of the price is because of the dairy
>farms. The price here and in the city has gone up by more than $1/gal
>over the past year, and that's pretty hard to attribute to the
>distributor.
>
>
>Chad
>
>
>
>
>
>

CB

Chad Bender

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

15/07/2004 3:45 PM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:05:49 -0400, Leon wrote:

> We never have any go bad, but I have heard that some states have
> different standards for the way milk is processed and it lasts a
> relative long time compared to 10 days. 21 to 30 days seems right. Some
> special milks do last a long time. I was wondering if the $4+ per
> gallon is a result of milk that lasts longer. "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...

I have a hard time buying that my $4+/gal milk is higher quality than your
cheaper milk. At Stop & Shop I used to get Farmland brand, in 1/2 gallon
paper cartons (there is not an appreciable mark up for buying the 1/2 gal
instead of the gallon -- only a few cents/gal). Farmland would last in my
fridge for only a few days (3-4) before it started to smell, and it
certainly wasn't drinkable after a week. Recently, I've been buying the
Stop & Shop brand, and it lasts a solid week before any noticable smell.

The sell by date stamped on the cartons here is never very far into the
future - at most a week. That said, it doesn't always correlate with
when the milk goes bad.

I know that NY City has different date rules, because all of my cartons
(on Long Island, not in the city) come stamped with two dates - one for
in NY City and one for outside of NY City.

Chad

CB

Chad Bender

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

16/07/2004 11:24 AM

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:59:03 -0400, Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Chad Bender <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Are you sure your fridge is set at a cold enough temp? Something's wrong
> somewhere in the scheme of things if your milk is spoiling in a week.
>
>
Our fridge has been known to freeze things, so it's definately cold
enough. I'm convinced that its the milk.

Chad

jJ

[email protected] (JMWEBER987)

in reply to Chad Bender on 16/07/2004 11:24 AM

16/07/2004 11:21 PM

> I'm convinced that its the milk.
It's their gallon jugs or orange juice we have a problem with. We shop twice a
month and if we don't get the OJ finished by 10 days or so it starts to turn,
go bad, or ferment. Develops a definite sharp metalic taste thats not
pleasant. Often we just buy our juice somewhere else but we keep trying since
it's convienent.

OO

Old Oak

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 12:44 AM

John wrote:
> I go there about 4 times a year and load up on all of the things I can buy
> in bulk. Hey, I'm single and hate to shop. Soaps and stuff only need to be
> bought once a year. Frozen stuff about once a quarter. The membership
> doesn't pay for me in actuall dollars but the time I'm not in the local
> supermarket is well worth the $$$ to me. YMMV.
>
>
>

The savings on diapers pays for the membership. Milk's also a lot
cheaper than at the store.

Jw

"John"

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

13/07/2004 8:18 PM

I go there about 4 times a year and load up on all of the things I can buy
in bulk. Hey, I'm single and hate to shop. Soaps and stuff only need to be
bought once a year. Frozen stuff about once a quarter. The membership
doesn't pay for me in actuall dollars but the time I'm not in the local
supermarket is well worth the $$$ to me. YMMV.



"BUB 209" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save
even
> the
> 30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout
looking
> around the store and the first thing I saw was a stack of apple pies - for
> 12.00
> each. By the time I was leaving, I had this picture in my mind of food
> industry
> CEOs sitting around a swimming pool watching a bunch of ants swarming over
> a piece of watermelon, and the proverbial lightbulb going off - "We'll
> mesmerise
> the masses with mass quantities!"

sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to [email protected] (BUB 209) on 13/07/2004 11:50 PM

14/07/2004 5:07 PM

[email protected] (BUB 209) writes:
>Just wondering if anybody really feels they get a bargain or really save even
>the
>30.00 or more they plunk down for a membership. I got mine whithout looking
>

Can't speak for Sam's Club, but Costco is definitely worth it. Just for
the $29.99 bottles of Herradura gold. Two bottles and you've saved your
yearly membership fee. Likewise the Veuve Cliquot (a $10-$15/bottle savings),
or the BV Rutherford Cab for $15 (vs. $20 in the stores, if you can find it).

The 2.5# packs of blueberries (in season) for $5.00 aren't a bad deal, either.

scott


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