Hi all,
I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
template type activities?
Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
an hour and found nothing relevant.
Thanks
Matt
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
>
>
> Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
> an hour and found nothing relevant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
I just plunge them through the base plate slowly. Then I save that base for
larger bit work. You can also make your own base plates from acrylic/lexan
or you can ping Pat Warner, has other ones for sale.
Dave
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CW wrote:
> That will work and I have done it but it is best to get another base plate
> with a larger hole. The stock plate has a counterbore for template guides.
> If you bore it out, you will need to get a new one if/when you use guides.
> Go here: http://www.patwarner.com/index.html
>
> "Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >
> >> I just plunge them through the base plate slowly. Then I save that base
> for
> > larger bit work. You can also make your own base plates from
> acrylic/lexan
> > or you can ping Pat Warner, has other ones for sale.
> >
> > Dave
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CW wrote:
> That will work and I have done it but it is best to get another base plate
> with a larger hole. The stock plate has a counterbore for template guides.
> If you bore it out, you will need to get a new one if/when you use guides.
> Go here: http://www.patwarner.com/index.html
>
> "Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> I just plunge them through the base plate slowly. Then I save that base
> for
> > larger bit work. You can also make your own base plates from
> acrylic/lexan
> > or you can ping Pat Warner, has other ones for sale.
> >
> > Dave
One thing nobodys mentioned. The 690 is has just one speed "fast" and
that large bit is not recommended to run at 23,000. nasty things can
happen.
Bob making sawdust in Salem Or.
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Actually, The model I have is a 690LRVS with variable speed (10,000 -
27,000 RPM) so the bit size should be OK with low RPM's. The manual
claims I can use a 3 1/2 in. bit with RPM's less than 13,000, though
I'm not inclined to use such a large bit.
So in the end, if I just bore out the existing sub-base all should be
good, unless I need to use a template, in which case, I'm in the market
for another sub-base?
I think I do need to spend the money on a couple of books, and spend
some time practicing with a few blocks of wood.
Thanks for the help
Matt
Actually, The model I have is a 690LRVS with variable speed (10,000 -
27,000 RPM) so the bit size should be OK with low RPM's. The manual
claims I can use a 3 1/2 in. bit with RPM's less than 13,000, though
I'm not inclined to use such a large bit.
So in the end, if I just bore out the existing sub-base all should be
good, unless I need to use a template, in which case, I'm in the market
for another sub-base?
I think I do need to spend the money on a couple of books, and spend
some time practicing with a few blocks of wood.
Thanks for the help
Matt
[email protected] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
you got the right router to learn on.
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
making router sub-bases is part of using routers. find a supplier of
plastics local to you and check out their cutoff bin. get a few pieces
of 1/4" or thicker lexan or acryllic and make a few blank (no center
hole) sub-bases. use the factory sub-base to lay out the screw holes.
then when you need to mount a new size bit drill the center hole on one
of your available blanks just a little undersize, mount the subbase and
plunge the bit carefully through it. you now have a zero clearance base
for that bit, which gives you maximum support, accuracy and safety when
using it.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
always use a sub-base when using a router freehand. when using a router
in a table, the table *is* the sub-base.
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
doesn't sound like it...
now, there are bits (like wing cutters) where the larger diameter part
starts well clear of the router base. for these, you can use a sub-base
with a hole closer to the bit shank diameter, mounting the bit with the
motor in the base.
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
see above.
>
>
> Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
> an hour and found nothing relevant.
I'm surprised that google didn't sent you to pat warner.
good luck and have fun...
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
[email protected] wrote:
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
First things first.
What is the max RPM of that 1-1/2" bit?
My guess is less than the 20,000+ RPM the 690 operates.
As someone else has suggested, you could have a serious problem.
Lew
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
>
>
> Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
> an hour and found nothing relevant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
Matt,
First - go to www.patwarner.com and read. Then put a crowbar to your wallet
and purchase a book or two that Pat has written - you will not be sorry.
While there look at his sub-bases, his router reviews and other articles
that show and tell you more in 30 minutes than probably anyone can.
Bob S.
matt,
have you tried routerforums.com ? it is a great resource for both beginners
and pros alike.
Bob
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
>
>
> Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
> an hour and found nothing relevant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
>
> Do I need the sub-base for normal routing operations, or is it only for
> template type activities?
Rockler sells sub bases with holes up to 2 1/2 inches. These are Rockler
private goods. PC has similar sub bases, but these may be hard to find.
Yes, you do need a subbase if for no other reason than to protect the wood
from the metal base of the router.
Jim
>
> Am I doing something wrong with putting my bit into the collet? I've
> followed the manual (Fairly limited instructions)
>
> I have a round over bit That is about 1 1/2 inches that I want to use,
> but the only way I can see to use it is to remove the sub-base. Would
> this be OK, or am I stretching the safety limit a bit?
>
>
> Also, any resources on beginning routing would be great. I googled for
> an hour and found nothing relevant.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matt
>
That will work and I have done it but it is best to get another base plate
with a larger hole. The stock plate has a counterbore for template guides.
If you bore it out, you will need to get a new one if/when you use guides.
Go here: http://www.patwarner.com/index.html
"Teamcasa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>> I just plunge them through the base plate slowly. Then I save that base
for
> larger bit work. You can also make your own base plates from
acrylic/lexan
> or you can ping Pat Warner, has other ones for sale.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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Porter Cable offers a base with a larger hole and your
dealer should have that in stock.
Their miserable flashing web site is broke at the moment
and I can not give you the link for the part number.
[email protected] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Porter Cable 690 w/ plunger (I'm new to routers by the way)
>
> My problem is that the advertised size of a bit is 2 1/8 in diam. but
> that the sub-base is limited to about 1 1/8 in.
Not the case. He is trying to use a 1.5" router bit, just fine for the 690.
Porter Cable says 2.125" is fine in the 690 though I tend to go more with
Pat Warner who says 1.625 for this router.
"wodbuchr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> One thing nobodys mentioned. The 690 is has just one speed "fast" and
> that large bit is not recommended to run at 23,000. nasty things can
> happen.
>
> Bob making sawdust in Salem Or.
> > >
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