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"Existential Angst"

21/02/2013 2:52 PM

Drywall-type screws with true 82 deg head?


Awl --

I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to wood
(indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, in
fact, the underside is curved.

Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 deg, any
standard c-sink angle)?
Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not enough
"bite" in the threads.
--
EA


This topic has 7 replies

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Father Haskell

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

25/02/2013 12:55 PM

On Feb 21, 5:11=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:38:37 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
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> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:52:51 AM UTC-8, Existential Angst wrot=
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> >> Awl --
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> >> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to w=
ood
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> >> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, =
in
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> >> fact, the underside is curved.
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> >> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 de=
g, any
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> >> standard c-sink angle)?
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> >> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not eno=
ugh
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> >> "bite" in the threads.
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> >> EA
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> >Don't know where to get drywall screws with true flat head config but Mc=
Feely's has lots o coarse thread flat head wood screws that should work for=
you... like thishttp://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0812-FCT
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> =A0If a drywall screw had a straight 82 (or 90) degree head it would NOT
> be a drywall screw. The convex tapr on a drywall screw is to displace
> the drywall topper paper without breaking it as the screw pulls in.
> Break the paper and the screw isn't holding ANYTHING any more.

They're also not as strong as wood screws because they don't have
to be.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

21/02/2013 1:38 PM

On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:52:51 AM UTC-8, Existential Angst wrote:
> Awl --
>
>
>
> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to wood
>
> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, in
>
> fact, the underside is curved.
>
>
>
> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 deg, any
>
> standard c-sink angle)?
>
> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not enough
>
> "bite" in the threads.
>
> --
>
> EA

Don't know where to get drywall screws with true flat head config but McFeely's has lots o coarse thread flat head wood screws that should work for you... like this http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0812-FCT

JW

Jim Weisgram

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

26/02/2013 9:01 AM

[...snip...]
>
>What is the problem with traditional wood screws?
>
>looking at Mcmaster, drywall screw #99136A100
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/99136a100/=lkwr59
>it is clearly the bugle head you do not want.
>
>but part #90031A153, a No. 6—#2 Phillips Drive Zinc-Plated Wood Screws
>appears to be what you are looking for.
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#tapping-screws/=lkwsvp
>
>Stephen B

The only question I have about these, are they soft metal like you
often see in the home centers, or are they heat treated like you find
with McFeeley's. The right heat treatment makes the screws tough but
not brittle.

Having used heat treated screws before, I hate using the run of the
mill stuff anymore.

>> Jim

c

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

21/02/2013 5:11 PM

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:38:37 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:52:51 AM UTC-8, Existential Angst wrote:
>> Awl --
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to wood
>>
>> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, in
>>
>> fact, the underside is curved.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 deg, any
>>
>> standard c-sink angle)?
>>
>> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not enough
>>
>> "bite" in the threads.
>>
>> --
>>
>> EA
>
>Don't know where to get drywall screws with true flat head config but McFeely's has lots o coarse thread flat head wood screws that should work for you... like this http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0812-FCT
If a drywall screw had a straight 82 (or 90) degree head it would NOT
be a drywall screw. The convex tapr on a drywall screw is to displace
the drywall topper paper without breaking it as the screw pulls in.
Break the paper and the screw isn't holding ANYTHING any more.

SS

StephenB

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

21/02/2013 7:14 PM

Existential Angst wrote:
> Awl --
>
> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to wood
> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, in
> fact, the underside is curved.
>
> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 deg, any
> standard c-sink angle)?
> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not enough
> "bite" in the threads.
>

What is the problem with traditional wood screws?

looking at Mcmaster, drywall screw #99136A100
http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/99136a100/=lkwr59
it is clearly the bugle head you do not want.

but part #90031A153, a No. 6—#2 Phillips Drive Zinc-Plated Wood Screws
appears to be what you are looking for.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#tapping-screws/=lkwsvp

Stephen B
--
not that other Steve B That posts frequently

PK

"Paul K. Dickman"

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

22/02/2013 10:01 AM


"Existential Angst" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Awl --
>
> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to wood
> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, in
> fact, the underside is curved.
>
> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 deg,
> any standard c-sink angle)?
> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not enough
> "bite" in the threads.
> --
> EA
>

They use them all the time in production woodworking,
Go to McFeely's and look around.

http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0612-FRL/6-x-1-14-Wood-Screws-Unplated-Steel-Flat-Head-Combo-Drive

Paul K. Dickman

Pm

"PrecisionmachinisT" <[email protected]>

in reply to "Existential Angst" on 21/02/2013 2:52 PM

21/02/2013 4:21 PM


"Existential Angst" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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> Awl --=20
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> I'm a big fan of coarse thread drywall screws, for mounting metal to =
wood=20
> (indoors), or even deck screws, but the head is not an 82 deg c-sink, =
in=20
> fact, the underside is curved.
>=20
> Can I get a drywall-type thread (coarse) with an 82 deg head (or 90 =
deg, any=20
> standard c-sink angle)?
> Traditional sheet metal screws have a large-ish root diameter, not =
enough=20
> "bite" in the threads.
>=20

Mcmaster Carr probably has something that was engineered to do whatever =
it is you are wanting to do.


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