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woodchucker

06/03/2014 11:39 AM

FFFFFFF

I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
I can't.

I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.

Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..

I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
can learn to put things away and it still happens.

I guess the re-training isn't over.

--
Jeff


This topic has 46 replies

n

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 5:47 AM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:17:05 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
>...that was a good 40 years ago. I wonder how much jail time a high school
>kid would get today for building a working pistol and having explosives
>(i.e, black powder) ?? Hard to call it progress...

No jail time, just stupidity. I remember when I bought my first .45
colt pistol. Got home and just had to try it out. My parents weren't
at home, so I went down to the basement and shot it into a log of
wood. I was pretty much deaf for the next hour.

Gs

"Gramps' shop"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 3:41 PM

I've finally solved the missing tape measure problem: I now own about 6 mea=
sures, equally distributed to various flat surfaces in my shop. I also buy=
pencils by the box as they disappear quickly too. Thank God my TS, BS and=
lathe have learned to stay in one place :-)

Larry

Ll

Leon

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 3:23 PM

On 3/6/2014 10:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
> I can't.
>
> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>
> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
> can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>
> I guess the re-training isn't over.
>


Did you look inside the DC?

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 7:40 PM

On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:18:00 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>
>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
>>>> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane,
>>>> and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>>>
>>>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>>>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>>>> now..
>>>
>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>>> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>>> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I
>>> ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>> -----.
>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
>> an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
>> you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
>
>Really??? You two????
to, too, twain?

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 5:08 PM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in news:bNKdnaLxZotMOYXOnZ2dnUVZ_o-
[email protected]:

> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
> I can't.
>
> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I
need
> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
now..
>
> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
> can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>
> I guess the re-training isn't over.
>

Once I looked all over for the super glue cap. I just couldn't find
it... turns out I was looking for a translucent white cap but the cap
was black. Sometimes it helps to look for the right thing. :-)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 1:30 PM

woodchucker wrote:

>> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
>> I can't.
>>
>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>> while
>> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I
>> need
>> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng
>> frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>> now..
>>
>> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that
>> I
>> can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>>
>> I guess the re-training isn't over.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Quickest way to find a "lost" item, go buy a replacement.

You are sure to find the old one when you get back from the store.

Lew

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 3:26 AM

"Gramps' shop" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I've finally solved the missing tape measure problem: I now own about
> 6 measures, equally distributed to various flat surfaces in my shop.
> I also buy pencils by the box as they disappear quickly too. Thank
> God my TS, BS and lathe have learned to stay in one place :-)
>
> Larry
>

The lathe can be used to make a pencil into a pointy stick, so you know
where your pencil sharpener is too. :-) (You probably need a 3-jaw chuck
and a steady rest may be useful, but think of all you'll save by only
taking off the amount you need to restore the point!)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 5:09 PM


<[email protected]> wrote:

> Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear
----------------------------------------------
The only solution is to get a good denim shop apron complete
with pencil and scale pockets sewn on the front at the top.

A pocket at waist level provides another place to "hide" things.

Lew

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 5:33 AM

[email protected] wrote in news:dp2lh9t72oimi0053tpnhfchfvedat9dbf@
4ax.com:

> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:09:49 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear
>>----------------------------------------------
>>The only solution is to get a good denim shop apron complete
>>with pencil and scale pockets sewn on the front at the top.
>>
>>A pocket at waist level provides another place to "hide" things.
>>
>>Lew
>>
> Then I'd hang the durn thing on the back of the door and lose it too.
>

I picked up one of those pencil retractor lines from Lee Valley. It
clips to your belt/pants and attaches to the pencil. It worked fine, and
was even sometimes convenient.

Yep, I lost it. I had it one day, and the next it was gone. I'm pretty
sure I did take it off before leaving the shop, but exactly where and
when are shrouded in mystery.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

jj

jo4hn

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 6:10 AM

On 3/6/2014 8:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:

WOW! You guys are getting older! Ya know, I've noticed that in my
kids. Thank Norm, it's not happening to me. Damn. Now where did I put
my reading glasses? Grump.
mahalo,
jo4hn

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 2:12 PM

On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:

> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..

The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I ever
put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!

BB

Bill

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 07/03/2014 2:12 PM

09/03/2014 3:16 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 21:31:09 -0500, Larry Kraus <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
>>> in reach from anywhere. ;-)
>> If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
>> dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.
> Oh, absolutely! ...but I'd still have the one I needed. ;-)
>
> BTW, I must have a dozen-dozen laying around the shop, somewhere. I
> have at least two dozen in my office at work, and it's only 8'x8'.
> When I say "flood the zone", I do mean it. ;-)

Recognizing this problem. One of the first things I did after I copied
Swingman's workbench design, was to put a "pencil cup" on the corner of it.
As it's been knocked over a couple of times, I will advise that this is
not the best place for it.

k

in reply to Ed Pawlowski on 07/03/2014 2:12 PM

09/03/2014 11:13 AM

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 21:31:09 -0500, Larry Kraus <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
>> in reach from anywhere. ;-)
>
>If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
>dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.

Oh, absolutely! ...but I'd still have the one I needed. ;-)

BTW, I must have a dozen-dozen laying around the shop, somewhere. I
have at least two dozen in my office at work, and it's only 8'x8'.
When I say "flood the zone", I do mean it. ;-)

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 4:40 PM

On 3/6/2014 4:23 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 3/6/2014 10:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
>> I can't.
>>
>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>>
>> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
>> can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>>
>> I guess the re-training isn't over.
>>
>
>
> Did you look inside the DC?

:-P yes.

Found another mirror to use finally. Still haven't found the inspection
mirror....

--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 3:54 PM

On 3/7/2014 2:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>
> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I ever
> put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!

:-O

--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 11:02 PM

On 3/8/2014 9:31 PM, Larry Kraus wrote:
>
>> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
>> in reach from anywhere. ;-)
>
> If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
> dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.

I solved that problem long ago, I have to wear safety glasses with
bifocals... I glued a magnet on it, use a pen clip and just put the
pencil back on the glasses when done using it.. That's the only 2 things
I am sure I know where it is.

--
Jeff

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 11:17 PM

"woodchucker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>Found another mirror to use finally. Still haven't found the inspection
>mirror....

When I was a kid I built a couple muzzleloaders in my bedroom. One of them
was a nearly useless little single shot pistol that I think was called a New
Orleans Ace. While trying to get the main spring, main spring strut, hammer,
and hammer cross pin in place things slipped on me. The spring and strut
went flying. I found the spring right away but could not find the strut...

During my search I literally took everything out of the room carefully
inspecting everything as I did so. When I say I was removing everything I
mean everything... I got to the point where the bed, desk, dresser, rug,
etc. was gone and the only things left in the room were the ceiling light
and the curtains. I finally found the strut in the bottom hem of the curtain
on the opposite wall about 10 feet from where I was working! I guess the
upside was that everything in the room got a good dusting and was put away
in an orderly fashion! LOL

John
...that was a good 40 years ago. I wonder how much jail time a high school
kid would get today for building a working pistol and having explosives
(i.e, black powder) ?? Hard to call it progress...

LK

Larry Kraus

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 9:31 PM


> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
> in reach from anywhere. ;-)

If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.

Gs

"Gramps' shop"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 6:53 PM

Here's the latest for me:

A couple of months ago I took the ice chopper (you know, the one with the s=
ix-foot handle) down in the basement to scrape up some old carpet underlaym=
ent. Left it there (I think). Now that it's time to chop up that hunk of =
ice on the sidewalk, it has gone AWOL. It'll turn up the day after the dam=
n ice melts.

Larry

k

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 12:43 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:39:41 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
>I can't.
>
>I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
>Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>
>I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
>can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>
>I guess the re-training isn't over.

Thirty years ago (so age wasn't an issue ;-), a friend lost his
framing square in his condo. Now it is three floors, all finished.
But still, where does a framing square go? When he moved out, he
still hadn't found it. My guess was that it was hiding with the
socks.

a

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 8:44 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:39:41 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

One thing for sure. Getting older isn't a solution to this problem.

Seems to get worse.

Jim

>I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
>I can't.
>
>I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
>Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>
>I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
>can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>
>I guess the re-training isn't over.

k

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 7:06 PM

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 19:42:02 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:49:28 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
>>>>>> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane,
>>>>>> and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>>>>>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>>>>>> now..
>>>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>>>>> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>>>>> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I
>>>>> ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
>>>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>>>> -----.
>>>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>>>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>>>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>>>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
>>>> an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
>>>> you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
>>> Really??? You two????
>>
>>Did you ever look around the house for it for 15 minutes only
>>to....realize that....oh,no.. surely not...is it.... in your back
>>pocket? : )
>>
>>
>>>
>Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear

Or the glasses...











...on the nose.

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 11:49 PM

On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:17:05 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"woodchucker" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>Found another mirror to use finally. Still haven't found the inspection
>>mirror....
>
>When I was a kid I built a couple muzzleloaders in my bedroom. One of them
>was a nearly useless little single shot pistol that I think was called a New
>Orleans Ace. While trying to get the main spring, main spring strut, hammer,
>and hammer cross pin in place things slipped on me. The spring and strut
>went flying. I found the spring right away but could not find the strut...
>
>During my search I literally took everything out of the room carefully
>inspecting everything as I did so. When I say I was removing everything I
>mean everything... I got to the point where the bed, desk, dresser, rug,
>etc. was gone and the only things left in the room were the ceiling light
>and the curtains. I finally found the strut in the bottom hem of the curtain
>on the opposite wall about 10 feet from where I was working! I guess the
>upside was that everything in the room got a good dusting and was put away
>in an orderly fashion! LOL
>
>John
>...that was a good 40 years ago. I wonder how much jail time a high school
>kid would get today for building a working pistol and having explosives
>(i.e, black powder) ?? Hard to call it progress...
We made a long gun out of sched 40 water pipe with a threaded on
cap, drilled to allow the wick of a 2" firecracker to stick through.
We loaded it with a wad of rag and marbles or ball bearings. Aimed it
up at the water tower and lit the wick - bounced the shot off the
water tower.(almost a block away) Over 40 years ago. Like almost 50
(I was likely about 14 at the time.)

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 10:15 PM

On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:09:49 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear
>----------------------------------------------
>The only solution is to get a good denim shop apron complete
>with pencil and scale pockets sewn on the front at the top.
>
>A pocket at waist level provides another place to "hide" things.
>
>Lew
>
Then I'd hang the durn thing on the back of the door and lose it too.

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 11:23 AM

On 08 Mar 2014 05:33:59 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in news:dp2lh9t72oimi0053tpnhfchfvedat9dbf@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:09:49 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>The only solution is to get a good denim shop apron complete
>>>with pencil and scale pockets sewn on the front at the top.
>>>
>>>A pocket at waist level provides another place to "hide" things.
>>>
>>>Lew
>>>
>> Then I'd hang the durn thing on the back of the door and lose it too.
>>
>
>I picked up one of those pencil retractor lines from Lee Valley. It
>clips to your belt/pants and attaches to the pencil. It worked fine, and
>was even sometimes convenient.
>
>Yep, I lost it. I had it one day, and the next it was gone. I'm pretty
>sure I did take it off before leaving the shop, but exactly where and
>when are shrouded in mystery.
>
>Puckdropper

I've found that every little gadjet I buy to help keep me from losing
things is just something else to loose -----.

I started carrying a memory stick around with me, loaded with all the
utilities I might need when working on a computer. A lot easier than
keeping track of and carrying around a dozen CDs - and yup, after over
a year, I managed to misplace that too. (to the point I have not found
it in over 3 months). I had temporarily misplaced it numerous times
before.

"I've got a photographic memory, but it's not Polaroid, and it hasn't
developed yet"

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 7:42 PM

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:49:28 -0500, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mike Marlow wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
>>>>> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane,
>>>>> and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>>>>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>>>>> now..
>>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>>>> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>>>> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I
>>>> ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
>>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>>> -----.
>>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
>>> an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
>>> you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
>> Really??? You two????
>
>Did you ever look around the house for it for 15 minutes only
>to....realize that....oh,no.. surely not...is it.... in your back
>pocket? : )
>
>
>>
Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear

k

in reply to [email protected] on 07/03/2014 7:42 PM

09/03/2014 7:48 PM

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:33:13 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:16:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> How's your Unisaur coming?
>
>I have been asking myself the same thing. It's almost thawed out! : )
>
LOL! It's been 70F here the last couple of days. We went up to the
Atlanta woodworking show (and the toy stores) yesterday with the top
down on the 'stang. ;-).

Before anyone tells me how dangerous convertibles are, I already know
and don't care. ...and no, I couldn't afford the TopStop. ;-)

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 12:11 PM

woodchucker wrote:
> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
> I can't.

Well Jeff - it's not so much that we do it, as it is that we have perfected
the art of blaming others for that state.

>
> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and
> I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
> now..

I do know what you mean though. My garage is always in some form of
unorganized, but really not all that bad. I have too much stuff for too
little space and it can look worse than it really is. I'm actually pretty
good at putting things back where they belong when a job is done, but then
there's that memory thing that can bite me in the you-know-where in the
midst of a job and I put something down somewhere convenient - and can't
remember where. Now - for the sign of a real expert - I can also look right
at something and not see the damned thing. Very frustrating as I find
myself scanning methodically across an area and concentrating on what I'm
looking for. Some days it just sucks...

>
> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
> can learn to put things away and it still happens.

Sigh... you have so much left to learn Jeff. This is the point that you
are supposed to blame someone else for misplacing the mirror, or not
returning it to its proper place. This is an artform Jeff - it takes a bit
to perfect it.

>
> I guess the re-training isn't over.

See comment above...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 6:52 PM

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:39:41 -0500, woodchucker wrote:

> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
> now..

I don't have a dust collector, so I have to occasionally move my power
tools (they're on wheels) and vacuum underneath. That's when I usually
find what I was sure was lost :-).

--
Where have all the flowers gone? Pete Seeger 1919-2014

JT

Jeff Thies

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 2:45 PM

On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
> I can't.
>
> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..


This is what is called: "disguised as part of the room".
>
> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
> can learn to put things away and it still happens.

I can find anything in less than a minute, provided I wasn't using it a
minute ago!

Jeff
>
> I guess the re-training isn't over.
>

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 3:05 PM

Jeff Thies wrote:
> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
>> I can't.
>>
>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>> now..
>
>
> This is what is called: "disguised as part of the room".

That's a good name for it! I call in my wife. She doesn't know where
anything supposed to be,
so she can often help me locate things by description quickly--carpet
knife, screw driver, ...



>>
>> I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
>> can learn to put things away and it still happens.
>
> I can find anything in less than a minute, provided I wasn't using it
> a minute ago!
>
> Jeff
>>
>> I guess the re-training isn't over.
>>
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 5:18 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>
>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
>>> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane,
>>> and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>>
>>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>>> now..
>>
>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I
>> ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
> -----.
> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
> an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
> you put it THERE you DUMMY?????

Really??? You two????

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

n

in reply to "Mike Marlow" on 07/03/2014 5:18 PM

09/03/2014 11:03 AM

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 09:48:49 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>Like I said before, every gadget I buy to make life easier just
>becomes something else to lose!!!!!

Or the corollary that when you do find it, the mechanism or battery
that it uses has broken or died.

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 6:49 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>
>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is
>>>> not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane,
>>>> and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>>>
>>>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>>>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>>>> now..
>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>>> will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>>> there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I
>>> ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>> -----.
>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
>> an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
>> you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
> Really??? You two????

Did you ever look around the house for it for 15 minutes only
to....realize that....oh,no.. surely not...is it.... in your back
pocket? : )


>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 6:58 PM

Bill wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle
>>>>> is not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral
>>>>> vane, and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit
>>>>> well. Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng
>>>>> frustrating putting something down and not being able to find
>>>>> it... a few hours now..
>>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where
>>>> you will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it
>>>> will be there when you need it. As soon as I find that place,
>>>> everything I ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit
>>>> pile too!
>>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>>> -----.
>>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find
>>> it an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734
>>> would you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
>> Really??? You two????
>
> Did you ever look around the house for it for 15 minutes only
> to....realize that....oh,no.. surely not...is it.... in your back
> pocket? : )

That usually only happens if it's a sharp object and you've just crawled out
of your car seat...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

BB

Bill

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 7:01 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today,
>>>>>> while re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle
>>>>>> is not working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral
>>>>>> vane, and I need to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit
>>>>>> well. Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng
>>>>>> frustrating putting something down and not being able to find
>>>>>> it... a few hours now..
>>>>> The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where
>>>>> you will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it
>>>>> will be there when you need it. As soon as I find that place,
>>>>> everything I ever put away will be there. It is going to be a bit
>>>>> pile too!
>>>> If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
>>>> -----.
>>>> My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
>>>> And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
>>>> somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
>>>> close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find
>>>> it an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734
>>>> would you put it THERE you DUMMY?????
>>> Really??? You two????
>> Did you ever look around the house for it for 15 minutes only
>> to....realize that....oh,no.. surely not...is it.... in your back
>> pocket? : )
> That usually only happens if it's a sharp object and you've just crawled out
> of your car seat...

We're a dangerous lot!

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

10/03/2014 8:51 AM

On 3/6/2014 8:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
> I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
> I can't.
>
> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>
> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..


And that's why I have at least two of everything......

wn

woodchucker

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 2:09 PM

On 3/6/2014 1:52 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 11:39:41 -0500, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours
>> now..
>
> I don't have a dust collector, so I have to occasionally move my power
> tools (they're on wheels) and vacuum underneath. That's when I usually
> find what I was sure was lost :-).
>

I didn't until a few days ago.

But all my tools have had a vac connected via piping.
it has worked well, and I'll continue with most tools. Just the planer
is going to the DC when I get it fixed up. All others seem to work well
on the Vac for chip collection.

I am putting an internal Thein baffle in, and will also build a Thein
separator. The baffle does not seem to be as optimal in the dc as I
would think... I tried someone elses tophat and that might be more
efficient in the DC.


--
Jeff

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

10/03/2014 2:14 PM

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:51:50 -0700, Pat Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>And that's why I have at least two of everything..

And that's why I had at least two of everything..- - - - - - - - -

c

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

07/03/2014 2:23 PM

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 14:12:22 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 3/6/2014 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
>
>> I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
>> re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
>> working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
>> to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.
>>
>> Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
>> putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..
>
>The secret is simple. You just put things away in a place where you
>will know to go when you need that particular item. Then it will be
>there when you need it. As soon as I find that place, everything I ever
>put away will be there. It is going to be a bit pile too!
If it's like mine there will be 3 or 4 of everything i commonly use
-----.
My memory is very good, but it's getting short.
And when I put something down while I'm working, I generally put it
somewhere where it is out of my way so I won't knock it down, yet
close at hand - somewhere that AT THE TIME makes sense. When I find it
an hour, or a week, or a month later, I ask myself, why the 7734 would
you put it THERE you DUMMY?????

c

in reply to [email protected] on 07/03/2014 2:23 PM

09/03/2014 9:48 AM

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 23:02:32 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 3/8/2014 9:31 PM, Larry Kraus wrote:
>>
>>> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
>>> in reach from anywhere. ;-)
>>
>> If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
>> dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.
>
>I solved that problem long ago, I have to wear safety glasses with
>bifocals... I glued a magnet on it, use a pen clip and just put the
>pencil back on the glasses when done using it.. That's the only 2 things
>I am sure I know where it is.
Just don't take off your glasses!!!
Then you need to put a radio operated flasher/buzzer on the glasses so
you can find them (without your glasses on)
Then you need a way to keep track of the remote.

Like I said before, every gadget I buy to make life easier just
becomes something else to lose!!!!!

k

in reply to [email protected] on 07/03/2014 2:23 PM

09/03/2014 6:25 PM

On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:16:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 21:31:09 -0500, Larry Kraus <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
>>>> in reach from anywhere. ;-)
>>> If I have one pencil, I can keep track of it for weeks. If I have a
>>> dozen, I'll lose 11 of them in a week.
>> Oh, absolutely! ...but I'd still have the one I needed. ;-)
>>
>> BTW, I must have a dozen-dozen laying around the shop, somewhere. I
>> have at least two dozen in my office at work, and it's only 8'x8'.
>> When I say "flood the zone", I do mean it. ;-)
>
>Recognizing this problem. One of the first things I did after I copied
>Swingman's workbench design, was to put a "pencil cup" on the corner of it.
>As it's been knocked over a couple of times, I will advise that this is
>not the best place for it.
>
How about appropriate sized holes, drilled in the posts at 30degrees
from vertical? It doesn't work so well on my saw table, though. ;-)

How's your Unisaur coming?

BB

Bill

in reply to [email protected] on 07/03/2014 2:23 PM

09/03/2014 7:33 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:16:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> How's your Unisaur coming?

I have been asking myself the same thing. It's almost thawed out! : )

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to [email protected] on 07/03/2014 2:23 PM

09/03/2014 11:14 PM

Bill wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:16:14 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> How's your Unisaur coming?
>
> I have been asking myself the same thing. It's almost thawed out! : )

Just wait a couple more days - more cold coming!

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

k

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

08/03/2014 7:07 PM

On 08 Mar 2014 05:33:59 GMT, Puckdropper
<puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote in news:dp2lh9t72oimi0053tpnhfchfvedat9dbf@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:09:49 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or the carpenter pencil - behind my ear
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>The only solution is to get a good denim shop apron complete
>>>with pencil and scale pockets sewn on the front at the top.
>>>
>>>A pocket at waist level provides another place to "hide" things.
>>>
>>>Lew
>>>
>> Then I'd hang the durn thing on the back of the door and lose it too.
>>
>
>I picked up one of those pencil retractor lines from Lee Valley. It
>clips to your belt/pants and attaches to the pencil. It worked fine, and
>was even sometimes convenient.

I just flood the zone with mechanical pencils. There's at least one
in reach from anywhere. ;-)


>Yep, I lost it. I had it one day, and the next it was gone. I'm pretty
>sure I did take it off before leaving the shop, but exactly where and
>when are shrouded in mystery.
>
>Puckdropper

Wc

"WW"

in reply to woodchucker on 06/03/2014 11:39 AM

06/03/2014 10:54 AM

Too many birthdays Jeff. I know it happens. WW

"woodchucker" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

I don't know how you guys with disorganized shops do it.
I can't.

I put down an inspection mirror yesterday, I can't find it today, while
re-doing the dust collector, I need to look in, the baffle is not
working as well as I hoped, so I need to make a neutral vane, and I need
to see the cone's fit so I can make the vane fit well.

Damn I can't find the inspection mirror... It's so F'ng frustrating
putting something down and not being able to find it... a few hours now..

I've moved on put that aside, but am still fumed over the fact that I
can learn to put things away and it still happens.

I guess the re-training isn't over.

--
Jeff


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