I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
are available...
* What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
by Herbert Leeson Edlin
* Encyclopedia of Wood: A Tree-By-Tree Guide to the World's Most
Valuable Resource
by William Lincoln, Aidan Walker, John Makepeace
* The Woodbook
by Klaus Ulrich Leistikow
* 100 Woods: A Guide to Popular Timbers of the World
by Peter Bishop
* Wood : Identification & Use
by Terry Porter
*World Woods in Color
by William Alexander Lincoln
* International Book Of Wood
by Martin Bramwell
This last one is out of print, but appears to be well regarded.
Additionally, I stumbled across the following software -
The Wood Explorer CD
http://tinyurl.com/3twxx
While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
suggestions?
The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
JP
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:37:06 -0400, Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
> are available...
>
> * What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
> by Herbert Leeson Edlin
That's a nice one, shows 'em with leaves, and also has a sample of
each in the back (if that's the same edition as I have).
> While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
> allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
> suggestions?
>
> The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
See above. That's the only one I can comment on, but it's great.
Dave Hinz
Mon, Jul 19, 2004, 8:37pm [email protected] (Jay=A0Pique)
<snip> Any suggestions? <snip>
Books like that, I prefer holding in my grubby little mitts, and
leafing thru them, before I part with any hard to come by dinars.
So, I'd start at my local library, and see what they've got. Then
I'd go to the local college library, and see what they've got. Then,
the one(s) I'd like to own, I'd try tracking down. I get 99.9% of my
books, from used book stores.
By the way, it's no trick identifying trees. I have a whole yard
full of them, and I can look out of my door at any one of them, and tell
it's a tree. No prob.
JOAT
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
Jay Pique <[email protected]> schreef
> I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
are available...
> * What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
by Herbert Leeson Edlin
> * Encyclopedia of Wood: A Tree-By-Tree Guide to the World's Most
Valuable Resource
by William Lincoln, Aidan Walker, John Makepeace
> * The Woodbook
by Klaus Ulrich Leistikow
> * 100 Woods: A Guide to Popular Timbers of the World
by Peter Bishop
> * Wood : Identification & Use
by Terry Porter
> *World Woods in Color
by William Alexander Lincoln
> * International Book Of Wood
by Martin Bramwell
> This last one is out of print, but appears to be well regarded.
Additionally, I stumbled across the following software -
> The Wood Explorer CD
> http://tinyurl.com/3twxx
> While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
suggestions?
> The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
> JP
+ + +
A lot depends on what you mean by "wood identification". Obviously, what you
might mean by "all woods" is a complete mystery.
There certainly are more books than this. Also see the "### micro-FAQ on
wood": you can't really go wrong with the "Good Wood Handbook"
PvR
I have not seen the book by Terry Porter yet. I am keeping my fingers
crossed. Also unsure about this CD, and
how it relates to its predecessor, which was not much ].
PVR notes:
>A lot depends on what you mean by "wood identification". Obviously, what you
>might mean by "all woods" is a complete mystery.
Yes. All woods. I'm not sure we've found all the wood varieties there are yet,
or that we ever will.
I really like the Edlin book. I have the Woodbook in its current form. I'd love
to see it done without the gold on black print, but it's one great piece of
reading. Lincoln's book is also excellent, but you might want to add "A Guide
To Useful Woods of The World" edited by James Flynn and Charles Holder, of the
International Wood Collectors Society. Published by the Forest Products
Society, Madison, Wisconsin. ISBN 1-892529-15-7 in the paperback edition.
None of them come close to covering ALL the woods of the world. There are 279
in the second edition of the guide above, and it is woefully short of species.
Hundreds, perhaps thousands, that might be of interest aren't included.
Lincoln's WWIC has about 250 (too lazy to count them).
It may well be better to identify 100 or 200 particular woods, or 300, and go
after the details on those. Trying to do all is probably an impossibility, and
a supremely expensive impossibility.
Charlie Self
"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that
it is his duty." George Bernard Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra (1901)
> PvR notes:
> >A lot depends on what you mean by "wood identification". Obviously, what
you might mean by "all woods" is a complete mystery.
Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
> Yes. All woods. I'm not sure we've found all the wood varieties there are
yet, or that we ever will.
> I really like the Edlin book.
+ + +
It is likable but the set-up is a little out-of-date
+ + +
> I have the Woodbook in its current form. I'd love to see it done without
the gold on black print, but it's one great piece of reading.
+ + +
Yes, the gold on black gets on one's nerves. The pictures are great
(note that it deals with US-woods only), but are on the internet.
+ + +
Lincoln's book is also excellent,
+ + +
No, it is rather sloppy. I am on the verge of hating it.
+ + +
but you might want to add "A Guide To Useful Woods of The World" edited by
James Flynn and Charles Holder, of the International Wood Collectors
Society. Published by the Forest Products Society, Madison, Wisconsin. ISBN
1-892529-15-7 in the paperback edition.
+ + +
There is no hard cover edition, so the paperback is all there is. This book
has many virtues, and certainly is an honest piece of work, but although one
could do worse than owning this, I am ambivalent about recommending it to
the beginner.
+ + +
> None of them come close to covering ALL the woods of the world. There are
279 in the second edition of the guide above, and it is woefully short of
species. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, that might be of interest aren't
included.
+ + +
If you will open "The Guide to Useful Woods" you will see (on page 565) an
estimate of 5000-10 000 woods from a potential of 20 000 - 40 000 tree
species. In practice it may well be higher.
+ + +
> Lincoln's WWIC has about 250 (too lazy to count them).
> It may well be better to identify 100 or 200 particular woods, or 300, and
go after the details on those. Trying to do all is probably an
impossibility, and a supremely expensive impossibility.
+ + +
Any beginner would do well to aim for two or three dozen of the most common
woods. That will be hard enough. The Edlin book deals with 40 woods.
PvR
Bruce Hoadley's "Understanding Wood." I have it, its good. See link:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=u5mD0REsdoi9&isbn=1561583588&itm=1
Jay Pique <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
> are available...
>
> * What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
> by Herbert Leeson Edlin
>
> * Encyclopedia of Wood: A Tree-By-Tree Guide to the World's Most
> Valuable Resource
> by William Lincoln, Aidan Walker, John Makepeace
>
> * The Woodbook
> by Klaus Ulrich Leistikow
>
> * 100 Woods: A Guide to Popular Timbers of the World
> by Peter Bishop
>
> * Wood : Identification & Use
> by Terry Porter
>
> *World Woods in Color
> by William Alexander Lincoln
>
> * International Book Of Wood
> by Martin Bramwell
>
>
>
> This last one is out of print, but appears to be well regarded.
> Additionally, I stumbled across the following software -
>
> The Wood Explorer CD
> http://tinyurl.com/3twxx
>
>
> While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
> allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
> suggestions?
>
> The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
>
> JP
Jay Pique wrote:
> I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
> are available...
>
> * What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
> by Herbert Leeson Edlin
>
> * Encyclopedia of Wood: A Tree-By-Tree Guide to the World's Most
> Valuable Resource
> by William Lincoln, Aidan Walker, John Makepeace
>
> * The Woodbook
> by Klaus Ulrich Leistikow
>
> * 100 Woods: A Guide to Popular Timbers of the World
> by Peter Bishop
>
> * Wood : Identification & Use
> by Terry Porter
>
> *World Woods in Color
> by William Alexander Lincoln
>
> * International Book Of Wood
> by Martin Bramwell
>
>
>
> This last one is out of print, but appears to be well regarded.
> Additionally, I stumbled across the following software -
>
> The Wood Explorer CD
> http://tinyurl.com/3twxx
>
>
> While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
> allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
> suggestions?
>
> The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
You missed Hoadley, "Identifying Wood".
There is no "all encompassing volume that would allow me to identify all
woods". The Forest Products Laboratory, with a staff of PhDs, the largest
collection of wood samples in the world, a sophisticated laboratory, and
the ability to call on the full resources of the United States Government,
cannot reliably identify _all_ woods and they admit as much.
All any book is going to do is give you a start.
There are some organizations as well. The Center for Wood Anatomy Research
<http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us/> is the US Government lab that does that sort
of thing. The International Wood Collectors' Society has a journal
addressing wood identificiation. The Forest Products Society
<http://www.forestprod.org> has a variety of publications. The
International Association for Plant Taxonomy
<http://www.botanik.univie.ac.at/iapt/taxon/index.htm> is the professional
society for scientists who specialize in the classification of plants
including trees.
>
> JP
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
What?
Nothing by Charles Self?
What is the world coming to?
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've googled and amazoned (zonned?), and it appears that the following
> are available...
>
> * What Wood Is That: A Manual of Wood Identification (Studio Book)
> by Herbert Leeson Edlin
>
> * Encyclopedia of Wood: A Tree-By-Tree Guide to the World's Most
> Valuable Resource
> by William Lincoln, Aidan Walker, John Makepeace
>
> * The Woodbook
> by Klaus Ulrich Leistikow
>
> * 100 Woods: A Guide to Popular Timbers of the World
> by Peter Bishop
>
> * Wood : Identification & Use
> by Terry Porter
>
> *World Woods in Color
> by William Alexander Lincoln
>
> * International Book Of Wood
> by Martin Bramwell
>
>
>
> This last one is out of print, but appears to be well regarded.
> Additionally, I stumbled across the following software -
>
> The Wood Explorer CD
> http://tinyurl.com/3twxx
>
>
> While it would be nice to find one all encompassing volume that would
> allow me to identify all woods, I'm not overly optimistic. Any
> suggestions?
>
> The ability to identify living species is also important to me.
>
> JP
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> It would move much faster if you didn't spend so much time hasslin' poor
> old BAD on the wRECk. ;-)
My killfiles are working. Dave has ceased to exist. Damned shame - cuz
there probably was *some* potential in there. Probably. Maybe not...
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> Give me time! I'm working on it. A couple years, and one should be out, if
> nothing goes wrong.
I think it'd move along a little faster if you didn't insist on growing
every one of the darned samples yurself! :)
Patrick Conroy notes:
>> Give me time! I'm working on it. A couple years, and one should be out, if
>> nothing goes wrong.
>
>I think it'd move along a little faster if you didn't insist on growing
>every one of the darned samples yurself! :)
>
Yeah, but now I'm old enough to use some of the samples set in soil when I was
a kid. Past old enough, in fact.
Charlie Self
"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that
it is his duty." George Bernard Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra (1901)
patrick conroy wrote:
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>>
>>Give me time! I'm working on it. A couple years, and one should be out, if
>>nothing goes wrong.
>
>
> I think it'd move along a little faster if you didn't insist on growing
> every one of the darned samples yurself! :)
>
It would move much faster if you didn't spend so much time hasslin' poor
old BAD on the wRECk. ;-)
mahalo,
jo4hn
jo4hn writes:
>patrick conroy wrote:
>> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Give me time! I'm working on it. A couple years, and one should be out, if
>>>nothing goes wrong.
>>
>>
>> I think it'd move along a little faster if you didn't insist on growing
>> every one of the darned samples yurself! :)
>>
>It would move much faster if you didn't spend so much time hasslin' poor
>old BAD on the wRECk. ;-)
You mean he's still here? My filters have worked for a couple months, now, so
I've got no idea who is doing what to whom.
Charlie Self
"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that
it is his duty." George Bernard Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra (1901)
On 21 Jul 2004 00:11:54 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
calmly ranted:
>You mean he's still here? My filters have worked for a couple months, now, so
>I've got no idea who is doing what to whom.
Mine, too, but I had to keep adding the people who kept on replying
to him day after day after day. Once I got to zero tolerance he went
away for good.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 21 Jul 2004 00:11:54 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> calmly ranted:
>
>
>>You mean he's still here? My filters have worked for a couple months, now, so
>>I've got no idea who is doing what to whom.
>
>
> Mine, too, but I had to keep adding the people who kept on replying
> to him day after day after day. Once I got to zero tolerance he went
> away for good.
Actually, I haven't seen hide nor hair of him for a while. I thought
that [email protected] or whatever it was, was Dave. Some
of the words, phraseology, and attitude were quite similar. Sigh. Just
one of life's little bouts with emesis.
mahalo,
jo4hn