Hello,
I just recently bought a rent house to remodel. I own an a/c company so I
see alot of things and a couple of years ago I went to a house that this old
man took 3/4 plywood ran it through his table saw, ran it through his router
and made tongue and grove flooring. I am wondering if anybody knows what
kind and where to find these kinds of router bits. I have an assorted set
that I use to make different things but I need a set of tongue and grove, to
make the flooring and to make some cabinets. I tried looking around and
dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a clue what they have in
stock.
Thanks for any help.
M a J wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just recently bought a rent house to remodel. I own an a/c company so I
> see alot of things and a couple of years ago I went to a house that this old
> man took 3/4 plywood ran it through his table saw, ran it through his router
> and made tongue and grove flooring. I am wondering if anybody knows what
> kind and where to find these kinds of router bits. I have an assorted set
> that I use to make different things but I need a set of tongue and grove, to
> make the flooring and to make some cabinets. I tried looking around and
> dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a clue what they have in
> stock.
>
> Thanks for any help.
M a J wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just recently bought a rent house to remodel. I own an a/c company so I
> see alot of things and a couple of years ago I went to a house that this old
> man took 3/4 plywood ran it through his table saw, ran it through his router
> and made tongue and grove flooring. I am wondering if anybody knows what
> kind and where to find these kinds of router bits. I have an assorted set
> that I use to make different things but I need a set of tongue and grove, to
> make the flooring and to make some cabinets. I tried looking around and
> dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a clue what they have in
> stock.
>
> Thanks for any help.
Just purchase a 1/4 inch grooving bit from a woodworking store or
online for your router. Then either mill or purchase 1/4 inch stock and
for the splines, rip them to the proper width and glue them into you
grooves on the plywood. !/4 inch plywood would work well for the
splines because it is slightly less than 1/4 and should fit well in
the grooves
My new house in Northern Calif. is 3 weeks from completion. I built a
dedcated woodworking shop behind the garage. I went to the lumber mill
just up the road to enquire about buying oak lumber to prep for
flooring.
They sell the raw oak boards at $1.50 per running foot.. But they
advised me to look at a scrap piece of milled flooring before I
undertake the project. Aside from the tongue and groove jointing on the
long edges, the bottom has some critical rebate grooves. These gouges
allow the boards to lay flat at alll times. And they prevent cupping
from heat and moisture expansion. And every board must be run through
an accurate thickness planer.
The only way to mill these dados on the flats is with a shaper. Not
only that, the shaper would need a power feeder. The lumber also needs
to be planed. Again, you'd need a power feeder there, too. When you
hand feed, the feed rate is inconsistent, so the boards won't come out
equal thickness,leaving the floor with edges sticking up and breaking
off.
So the three steps are:
a) tongue and groove on edge
b) dados on underside
c) perfect thickness
A router might be able to do the tongue & groove. But you need a shaper
and planer with power feeds for the rest.
The raw oak lumber sells for about $1.20 a board foot. That's a lot
bettter than milled oak flooring at about $5.50 a foot. When we build a
second house on the land we have, I'm going to do this. But I am
prepared for a massive amount of work to mill the wood. You need the
machinery because the first requirement is very hard wood. Unless you
want Pine flooring.
Gary Curtis
happy thanksgiving all!!
hey about the t&g....There are so many ways to do that but if you
are going to
shape alot of linear footage there are bits used for this called spline
cutters or
"wing" cutters. They come in various cutting widths and can be stacked
or seperated
what ever the application calls for... Dadioh speaks with experience
...
The reason for the tongue not to bottom out is for expansion and
contraction...
The bottom shoulder not touching is for the same reason.
do you have a shaper w/feeder? if not I suggest a HD router and a
good feather board and hold down setup.
finally got all my legs for the Kitchen table spun, while they are
not exactly Identical
they are darned close.
health n laughter,
Bren
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> "M a J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > I tried looking around and dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a
> > clue what they have in stock.
>
> Why do you even bother going there?
>
> www.infinitytools.com
> www.routerbits.com
>
> Both are good quality.
And if OP intends to make much T&G out of commercial plywood, he'll need
good quality carbide to stand up to the glue lines--and even then, he'll
get grooves in places where he's not expecting them after a while...
Duane Bozarth wrote:
>
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > "M a J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > > I tried looking around and dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a
> > > clue what they have in stock.
> >
> > Why do you even bother going there?
> >
> > www.infinitytools.com
> > www.routerbits.com
> >
> > Both are good quality.
>
> And if OP intends to make much T&G out of commercial plywood, he'll need
> good quality carbide to stand up to the glue lines--and even then, he'll
> get grooves in places where he's not expecting them after a while...
Ridges, actually... :)
[email protected] wrote:
> My new house in Northern Calif. is 3 weeks from completion. I built a
> dedcated woodworking shop behind the garage. I went to the lumber mill
> just up the road to enquire about buying oak lumber to prep for
> flooring.
<snip>
> So the three steps are:
> a) tongue and groove on edge
> b) dados on underside
> c) perfect thickness
Note that T&G as used in flooring is not what one normally thinks of as
T&G...the pieces don't touch on the bottom nor does the tongue "bottom
out" in the groove. Additionally, the tongue is generally chamfered a
bit.
--
dadiOH
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"M a J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I tried looking around and dumb asses at Home Depot and Lowes don't have a
> clue what they have in stock.
Why do you even bother going there?
www.infinitytools.com
www.routerbits.com
Both are good quality.
M a J wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just recently bought a rent house to remodel. I own an a/c company
> so I see alot of things and a couple of years ago I went to a house
> that this old man took 3/4 plywood ran it through his table saw, ran
> it through his router and made tongue and grove flooring. I am
> wondering if anybody knows what kind and where to find these kinds of
> router bits. I have an assorted set that I use to make different
> things but I need a set of tongue and grove, to make the flooring and
> to make some cabinets.
You could also...
1. use biscuits
2. cut a groove in both pieces and use a spline. A way to do that
besides router is with a radial arm saw.
--
dadiOH
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