This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to use
it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous attempts
were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi crap
ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded circ
saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
I can relate to where you are coming from. I had about the same luck with my
Ryobi circular saw also. The recip cordless saw isn't much better. Got smart
and got rid of all the Ryobi's I had and bought a set of Milwaukee 18v tools
and wish I had done it initially. I can't believe the performance from the
Milwaukee tools. Too bad though they just got bought out by the same company
that owns Royobi. I think I am going to shop for some more big red tools
before they go the same way as Ryobi.
I have a couple Ryobi power tools that work well. No problems at all.
Never tried any of their power tools. maybe you just got a lemon.
"T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to
> use
> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
> attempts
> were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
> CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
> chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi crap
> ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded
> circ
> saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
"Eugene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Don't judge cordless tools because os a few bad names like Ryobi,
Oh, I dont judge because of Ryobi, I judge because they lack the power
compare to 110volts. I have used a battery operated PC and DeWalt circle
saw and a recip saw. I'll stick with the ones with a tail.
I still
> have my 9.6v makita cordless circular saw and have cut through many sheets
> of ply with it. Cut all the 1/4" ply for the panels for my kitchen
> cabinets, cut some 3/4" plywood for a booth style table/chairs, cut MDF
> for
> a router table and even trimmed 3/4" treated plywood for my shed floor.
> The stock blade wasn't very good but I found a good carbide tipped blade
> for $20 and its been cutting just fine.
If you have no alternative to a battery operated saw, then I can see your
point for using a circle saw to cut all those panels. I prefer to use the
TS.
Leon wrote:
>
> "Eugene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Don't judge cordless tools because os a few bad names like Ryobi,
>
> Oh, I dont judge because of Ryobi, I judge because they lack the power
> compare to 110volts. I have used a battery operated PC and DeWalt circle
> saw and a recip saw. I'll stick with the ones with a tail.
>
>
> I still
>> have my 9.6v makita cordless circular saw and have cut through many
>> sheets
>> of ply with it. Cut all the 1/4" ply for the panels for my kitchen
>> cabinets, cut some 3/4" plywood for a booth style table/chairs, cut MDF
>> for
>> a router table and even trimmed 3/4" treated plywood for my shed floor.
>> The stock blade wasn't very good but I found a good carbide tipped blade
>> for $20 and its been cutting just fine.
>
> If you have no alternative to a battery operated saw, then I can see your
> point for using a circle saw to cut all those panels. I prefer to use the
> TS.
I can barely fit a 4x8 sheet of ply in my garage, no way I'm going to
balance it on my table saw. Sure a cordless saw/drill/whatever will be
faster but after trying it cutting the ply on the back of my truck I have
to hunt up 2 50' extension cords to reach and then drag them around the
sides of the truck bed and such. Its much easier to pop in a battery and
go make my cuts then put the battery in the charger when I'm done. I don't
have to unwrap and untangle cords then wrap them back up and it takes much
less work laying out a fence, I can clamp a thin scrap to the ply as a
fence for the cut where with my big corded saw I have to clamp a thick
strong fence and clamp it tight as the big saw if it hits a spot in the
wood can move the fence if its not tight. Even though the cordless cuts
slower I still get the job done faster since it takes less setup time. So
even though you may not prefer them doesn't mean they are bad, they have
plenty of uses and are sometimes even more handy even when a corded
alternative is available.
Kentucky Highlander wrote:
> The cordless saws are mostly for cutting dimensional lumber, 2x4s and
> such, which they do an adequate job. Plywood is a little too much for
> cordless saws.
>
Um, no they work just fine in plywood, I've been using mine to cut ply for a
few years now. I cut all my ply on the back of my truck then carry in
inside where I finish it. My little truck is my biggest workbench.
Leon wrote:
>
> "Eugene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>
>> I can barely fit a 4x8 sheet of ply in my garage, no way I'm going to
>> balance it on my table saw. Sure a cordless saw/drill/whatever will be
>> faster but after trying it cutting the ply on the back of my truck I have
>> to hunt up 2 50' extension cords to reach and then drag them around the
>> sides of the truck bed and such.
>
> I really do not have a problem keeping up with extension cords or keeping
> them untangled.
>
>>Its much easier to pop in a battery and
>> go make my cuts then put the battery in the charger when I'm done. I
>> don't
>> have to unwrap and untangle cords then wrap them back up and it takes
>> much less work laying out a fence,
>
> OK, if that seems easier to you.
>
> Snip
>
> So even though you may not prefer them doesn't mean they are bad, they
> have
>> plenty of uses and are sometimes even more handy even when a corded
>> alternative is available.
>
> I guess some where you got the impression that I said battery powered
> tools
> are "bad". I merely indicated that other than a drill, corded ones are
> more powerful and my preference.
Its mostly a space issue for me, I have to put everything away before my
wife can pull her car in the shop. So it takes me time to pull the cords
in and out each time I want to cut something.
Your original post made it sound like you think cordless tools are worthless
for anything but drill and I'm just saying it depends on the person and
what you want to do with them. I find my cordless get used far more often
than my corded tools though a kitchen remodel including making my own
countertop and cabinets and table and chairs, bathroom remodel, vanity for
my wife, etc. The only corded tool that gets used more is my new PC
router, but I've been extremely tempted to buy their battery one as well so
I can leave the corded in the router table.
The cordless saws are mostly for cutting dimensional lumber, 2x4s and such,
which they do an adequate job. Plywood is a little too much for cordless
saws.
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"T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to
> use
> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
> attempts
> were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
> CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
> chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi crap
> ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded
> circ
> saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
"Eugene" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Leon wrote:
> I can barely fit a 4x8 sheet of ply in my garage, no way I'm going to
> balance it on my table saw. Sure a cordless saw/drill/whatever will be
> faster but after trying it cutting the ply on the back of my truck I have
> to hunt up 2 50' extension cords to reach and then drag them around the
> sides of the truck bed and such.
I really do not have a problem keeping up with extension cords or keeping
them untangled.
>Its much easier to pop in a battery and
> go make my cuts then put the battery in the charger when I'm done. I
> don't
> have to unwrap and untangle cords then wrap them back up and it takes much
> less work laying out a fence,
OK, if that seems easier to you.
Snip
So even though you may not prefer them doesn't mean they are bad, they have
> plenty of uses and are sometimes even more handy even when a corded
> alternative is available.
I guess some where you got the impression that I said battery powered tools
are "bad". I merely indicated that other than a drill, corded ones are more
powerful and my preference.
Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:48:53 +0000, T Cooper wrote:
>
>> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all
>> up. I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've
>
> Sure hope you didn't have the blade on backwards!
>
> -Doug
>
Please give a guy a little credit, maybe I over stated the feebleness of
the saw it actually cut about a foot before it gave it up.
"T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to
> use
> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
> attempts
> were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
> CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
> chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi crap
> ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded
> circ
> saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
I look at "most" Ryobi tools as strictly entry level. That said I have one
of the original portable planers and it is an AP10 Ryobi planer. I bought
it in 1988 and it is still going strong. There is not any thing else in the
Ryobi line that interests me now. IMHO battery operated tools are ok if
they are a DRILL. Give me one with a tail for all other operations.
In article <[email protected]>, T Cooper
<[email protected]> wrote:
Ryobi is not the top of the line hardware. Also, the corded saws have
superior power. However I have had good service from the 18V Ryobi saw
for three years. Clearly there is something wrong with the experience
you cite. Given your tendency to go into a tantrum I would suggest that
you avoid all power tools.
Dick
> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to
> use
> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
> attempts
> were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
> CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
> chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi
> crap
> ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded
> circ
> saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
"T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
The two Ryobi tools I own: the BE321 Belt Sander and the OSS500 Oscillating
Spinder sander are fine.
By the way - I took a chance on a lil' 14.4V Cordless Skil saw from the
Mart. Thing's amazing!
I can rip up 3/4" ply and 4/4" oak for a *long* time on a single charge.
Best $20 "Lotto ticket" I ever bought.
"T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
Nah, they are far from the best, but it should work OK when new I have the
14.4 volt saw and until the batteries started to die, it worked fairly well
for quick trimming or making long lengths manageable. The 18V would be even
better.
Make sure the rotation is right and the blade was put on correctly, and if
that is not the problem, it should still be under warranty if it is new.
Ryobi is OK for the once a year homeowner, but not up to par beyond that.
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:48:53 GMT, T Cooper <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:
>This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
>I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to use
>it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
>miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
>plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous attempts
>were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
>CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
>chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi crap
>ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded circ
>saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
>My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
The circular saws aren't very good in thick wood, but the key to
making them cut well is to "let go" of them; stop trying to steer
the cut like you do with a corded saw. They don't have the torque
to overcome the added drag on the blade. I learned this in the
first 10 minutes (both batteries' worth) of cutting attempts with
my 14.4v Ryobi, and once I did, it cut for a whole lot longer.
It's the same touch you use with a spoke shave or a woman: light
and knowing. ;)
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ever again treated as what it calls itself "The Supreme Law of the Land"
then it will be the Libertarian Party which forces it to be treated that
way. The Republicans and Democrats wont do it. So the future of the
Libertarian Party is tied to the future of America. If we go down, it
goes down with us. If America gets itself back onto the right course,
it will be our hands on the tiller." --Michael Badnarik
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:48:53 +0000, T Cooper wrote:
> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up. I
> purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to use
> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
> attempts were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking
> piece of CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several
> smashed up chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on
> Royobi crap ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my
> Bosch corded circ saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a
> goose! My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
Sure hope you didn't have the blade on backwards!
-Doug
--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:03:25 +0000, T Cooper wrote:
> Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:48:53 +0000, T Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
>>> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've
>>
>> Sure hope you didn't have the blade on backwards!
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>>
> Please give a guy a little credit, maybe I over stated the feebleness of
> the saw it actually cut about a foot before it gave it up.
I only mentioned it because it's happened to several folks here. I'm also
guilty of cussing at bad drill bit/hard wood until I realized the drill
was in reverse. Everyone is gonna have at least a few of these things
happen if they play this game for years.
-Doug
--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson
Leon wrote:
>
> "T Cooper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> This is my first posting so please don't rip into if I screw it all up.
>> I purchased the 18 volt cordless saw several months ago. I've TRIED to
>> use
>> it three times each time with a full charge, sharp blade and gotten
>> miserable results. This piece of crap won't even cut three inches of 3/4
>> plywood without coming to a complete overheated stop. The previous
>> attempts
>> were on 2x material miserable results as well. This stinking piece of
>> CHEAP IMPORTED CRAP is right where it belongs. In several smashed up
>> chunks in the garbage can. I'll NEVER spend a dime of my $$ on Royobi
>> crap
>> ever again! Oh reah after that tantrum I went and got my Bosch corded
>> circ
>> saw and it went through the plywood like grain through a goose!
>> My question is are all Ryobi tools such dogs as the saw?
>
> I look at "most" Ryobi tools as strictly entry level. That said I have
> one
> of the original portable planers and it is an AP10 Ryobi planer. I bought
> it in 1988 and it is still going strong. There is not any thing else in
> the
> Ryobi line that interests me now. IMHO battery operated tools are ok if
> they are a DRILL. Give me one with a tail for all other operations.
Ryobi stuff is mostly junk, corded or not. I had a Ryobi made Craftsnam
Professional router that was junk.
Don't judge cordless tools because os a few bad names like Ryobi, I still
have my 9.6v makita cordless circular saw and have cut through many sheets
of ply with it. Cut all the 1/4" ply for the panels for my kitchen
cabinets, cut some 3/4" plywood for a booth style table/chairs, cut MDF for
a router table and even trimmed 3/4" treated plywood for my shed floor.
The stock blade wasn't very good but I found a good carbide tipped blade
for $20 and its been cutting just fine.
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:03:25 GMT, T Cooper <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:
>Doug Winterburn <[email protected]> wrote in
>> Sure hope you didn't have the blade on backwards!
>> -Doug
>>
>Please give a guy a little credit, maybe I over stated the feebleness of
>the saw it actually cut about a foot before it gave it up.
Credit, after you broke the tool into pieces and tossed it into
the trash? Uh, right.
--
"If the promise of the Declaration of Independence is ever to be fulfilled,
it will be the Libertarian Party which fulfills it. If the Constitution is
ever again treated as what it calls itself "The Supreme Law of the Land"
then it will be the Libertarian Party which forces it to be treated that
way. The Republicans and Democrats wont do it. So the future of the
Libertarian Party is tied to the future of America. If we go down, it
goes down with us. If America gets itself back onto the right course,
it will be our hands on the tiller." --Michael Badnarik