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26/05/2012 4:16 PM

Cleanin drawer slides

I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape & Vogt KV8405 drawer
slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
cleaned them?

Thanks Rob


This topic has 11 replies

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Bruce

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 8:34 AM

On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:51:14 -0600, Leon wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> On 5/26/2012 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
>> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
>> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
>> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
>> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
>> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
>> cleaned them?
>>
>> Thanks Rob
>
> Disassemble and use
>
> Brake Cleaner from your local automotive store, use the plastic tube to
> direct the spray.
>
> A very small dab of lithium grease on the bearings

Don't use any heavy duty solvents if there are any plastic parts on the
slides! (such as the bearing retainers, bump stops, etc)

-BR

Ll

Leon

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 1:30 PM

On 5/27/2012 11:28 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 5/27/2012 9:34 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>> Don't use any heavy duty solvents if there are any plastic parts on the
>> slides! (such as the bearing retainers, bump stops, etc)
>
> Bingo! And these plastic parts, particularly the ball bearing retainers,
> are the first to fail over time, making the slides completely useless.
>
> Be very careful using any solvent that will cause these plastic parts
> too fail before their time.
>
> I think I would FIRST use our old army rifle cleaning trick of using
> very hot water (not necessarily boiling) to wash out both the sand and
> the existing grease before re-lubricating the slides.
>
> I'm actually here to tell you this, due in large part, and only because
> this method indeed works ... if you get my drift. :)
>
>

FWIT Brake cleaner not to be confused with brake fluid, typically is a
non threat for rubber and plastic. There are lots of those type parts
in brake drum and disk brakes systems.

Brake fluid will do a decent job cleaning also but will melt paint in an
instant.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

26/05/2012 8:50 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape & Vogt KV8405 drawer
> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
> cleaned them?
>
> Thanks Rob

Not much choice here Rob. You have to wash the slides thoroughly with a
solvent that will clean all of the grease out. That's what's currently
holding the sand in there. You may well have to go at them with a soft
brush, an air hose, or the likes, after you get all of the grease completely
removed, just to get the last of the sand. No shortcuts here. Lots of
solvent, lots of washing (not reusing the solvent), until all of the grease
is completely removed from everywhere. Most of the sand will come out with
the grease. Then, like I said - a good soft brush, compressed air or
similar should result in nice clean slides. Just don't be afraid to dump
the solvent and pour up a load of nice new, clean stuff periodically.

You can wash them with a good, long flood of water once you think you've
gotten all the sand out, but just be careful to get all the water dried off,
and then relubricate.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Mt

Max

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

28/05/2012 8:01 PM

On 5/26/2012 5:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
> cleaned them?
>
> Thanks Rob

Simple Green and hot water. For lube I would use a food grade silicone
grease (spray can with tube to direct the spray)

Ll

Leon

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 8:51 AM

On 5/26/2012 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
> cleaned them?
>
> Thanks Rob

Disassemble and use

Brake Cleaner from your local automotive store, use the plastic tube to
direct the spray.

A very small dab of lithium grease on the bearings

JM

John McGaw

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 4:47 PM

On 5/26/2012 7:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
> cleaned them?
>
> Thanks Rob

I would be tempted to just put them in the dishwasher and run them through
a short cycle with normal detergent. After they are dry they will need to
be lubricated. If you are worried about type I'd ask the maker what they
recommend, otherwise I'd just use a bit of lithium or silicone grease.

tn

tiredofspam

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

26/05/2012 8:57 PM

Yep, I agree with what Mike said.

Go to a paint shop , get the long troughs that they use to paste
wallpaper with. Fill it with mineral spirits and soak the slides.

Then brush them with a crappy paint brush while in there.
Blow them out.

Then use some spray white lube to re-lube them.

On 5/26/2012 8:50 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
>> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
>> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
>> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
>> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
>> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
>> cleaned them?
>>
>> Thanks Rob
>
> Not much choice here Rob. You have to wash the slides thoroughly with a
> solvent that will clean all of the grease out. That's what's currently
> holding the sand in there. You may well have to go at them with a soft
> brush, an air hose, or the likes, after you get all of the grease completely
> removed, just to get the last of the sand. No shortcuts here. Lots of
> solvent, lots of washing (not reusing the solvent), until all of the grease
> is completely removed from everywhere. Most of the sand will come out with
> the grease. Then, like I said - a good soft brush, compressed air or
> similar should result in nice clean slides. Just don't be afraid to dump
> the solvent and pour up a load of nice new, clean stuff periodically.
>
> You can wash them with a good, long flood of water once you think you've
> gotten all the sand out, but just be careful to get all the water dried off,
> and then relubricate.
>

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 12:27 PM

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:51:14 -0600, Leon wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
>> On 5/26/2012 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405
>>> drawer slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a
>>> section of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
>>> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the
>>> grease on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way
>>> to remove the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides
>>> after I have cleaned them?
>>>
>>> Thanks Rob
>>
>> Disassemble and use
>>
>> Brake Cleaner from your local automotive store, use the plastic tube
>> to direct the spray.
>>
>> A very small dab of lithium grease on the bearings
>
> Don't use any heavy duty solvents if there are any plastic parts on
> the slides! (such as the bearing retainers, bump stops, etc)
>

Oh sure - go ahead. They'll just have more built in stop locations...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

26/05/2012 10:17 PM

A solvent that will turn the grease to oil and flush it away - WD-40
would do it - then re-grease once clean. Flush and blow with air.

Martin

On 5/26/2012 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
> cleaned them?
>
> Thanks Rob

Sk

Swingman

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 11:28 AM

On 5/27/2012 9:34 AM, Bruce wrote:

> Don't use any heavy duty solvents if there are any plastic parts on the
> slides! (such as the bearing retainers, bump stops, etc)

Bingo! And these plastic parts, particularly the ball bearing retainers,
are the first to fail over time, making the slides completely useless.

Be very careful using any solvent that will cause these plastic parts
too fail before their time.

I think I would FIRST use our old army rifle cleaning trick of using
very hot water (not necessarily boiling) to wash out both the sand and
the existing grease before re-lubricating the slides.

I'm actually here to tell you this, due in large part, and only because
this method indeed works ... if you get my drift. :)


--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

Ll

Leon

in reply to [email protected] on 26/05/2012 4:16 PM

27/05/2012 1:26 PM

On 5/27/2012 9:34 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 07:51:14 -0600, Leon wrote
> (in article<[email protected]>):
>
>> On 5/26/2012 6:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> I am working on a project using 14 sets of Knape& Vogt KV8405 drawer
>>> slides. Because of limited shop space I temporarily stored a section
>>> of my project on my covered patio. Unfortunately we had a
>>> dust/sandstorm and the slides accumulated a lot of sand in the grease
>>> on the slides. What do you suggest as the most efficient way to remove
>>> the sand and what should I use to lubricate the slides after I have
>>> cleaned them?
>>>
>>> Thanks Rob
>>
>> Disassemble and use
>>
>> Brake Cleaner from your local automotive store, use the plastic tube to
>> direct the spray.
>>
>> A very small dab of lithium grease on the bearings
>
> Don't use any heavy duty solvents if there are any plastic parts on the
> slides! (such as the bearing retainers, bump stops, etc)
>
> -BR
>

I was thinking and for some reason left out, "white" lithium grease.


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