Thin Kerf Survey

Added a couple of extra questions.

"Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Over the past months there have been several questions about thin kerf
> blades and replies differ very widely. Rather than just the same people
> giving their general experience it would be more useful if we could find
any
> common grounds, either good or bad, that could explain the widely
differing
> experiences.
>
> Hopefully, people who have experience with this type of blade could answer
> the survey to see if their are any common threads, so that in the future
we
> can give more definite results on this question. Perhaps if we could get
> enough responses we could then ask some of the manufacturers to review and
> comment.
>
> Here is a proposed outline of the questions, please feel free to add your
> own suggestions.
>
> Thin Kerf Survey
> (If you use mutilple blades in different machines, please complete for
> each).
>
Overall feeling for Thin Kerf (Never Again, Special occasions, Good, very
happy):

> Manufacturer of Blade (e.g. Freud) :
>
> Manufacturers blade designation (e.g. Diablo):
>
> Diamater of blade:
>
> Blade type (Fine, General Purpose, Rip):
>
> Additional blade stabilizers (Yes /N0):
>
> Year of purchase:
>
Period of use (Once - took it back, All the time, Occasionally):

> Type of saw the blade is mounted in (Table, RAS, CMS, SCMS):
>
> Class of Saw (Bench top, cabinet, contractor)
>
> Saw manufacturer (Delta, Grizzly etc):
>
> Saw horse power:
>
> Blade performande for these categories (Poor, Good, V Good):
>
> Cross cut:

Work holding (Miter guide, sled, other - specify):
>
> Ripping:

Type of fence (As supplied, Special (Bies, Incra etc)):
>
> Mitering:
>
> Type of work you use the blade for (general hobby,Cabinet making,
furniture,
> house repairs.):
>
> Amount of use (Light hobby, full hobby, semi-pro, pro)
>
> Skill level (Beginner, advanced beginner, experienced, very experienced):
>
> Other Comments:
>
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Bernard R
>
>

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 00:20:57 -0500, "Bernard Randall"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thin Kerf Survey
>(If you use mutilple blades in different machines, please complete for
>each).
>
>Manufacturer of Blade (e.g. Freud) :

Freud

>Manufacturers blade designation (e.g. Diablo):

Thin kerf rip

>Diamater of blade:

10"

>Blade type (Fine, General Purpose, Rip):

24T rip

>Additional blade stabilizers (Yes /N0):

Yes and no

>Year of purchase:

2001

>Type of saw the blade is mounted in (Table, RAS, CMS, SCMS):

Table saw

>Sub Type of Saw (Bench top, cabinet, contractor)

Contractor's saw

>Saw manufacturer (Delta, Grizzly etc):

Jet

>Saw horse power:

1 1/2

>Blade performande for these categories (Poor, Good, V Good):

>Cross cut:

Poor - not intended for this

>Ripping:

Good for up to 4/4 of most hardwoods, some deflection over most 4/4
hardwoods, except maybe poplar

>Mitering:

Never tried

>Type of work you use the blade for (general hobby,Cabinet making, furniture,
>house repairs.):

Furniture and cabinet making

>Amount of use (Light hobby, full hobby, semi-pro, pro)

Semi-pro

>Skill level (Beginner, advanced beginner, experienced, very experienced):

experienced

>Other Comments:

Full kerf rip blade with same teeth usually does a better job,
especially on more powerful saw. I've never even bothered to mount
this blade on my 3 HP saw.

Thin kerf was fine as long as you are planning to joint after ripping.

Worst results with thin kerf came when tapering legs.

Barry

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>Hopefully, people who have experience with this type of blade could answer
>>the survey to see if their are any common threads, so that in the future
>
> we
>
>>can give more definite results on this question. Perhaps if we could get
>>enough responses we could then ask some of the manufacturers to review and
>>comment.
>
>
> This survey is against everything we stand for in America. There are people
> excluded from participation because all they have is a bandsaw or even just
> a handsaw. They must be permitted to take surveys also. You should also do
> more to encourage women with thin kerfs to participate too. What about
> people that would like to have thin kerf blades but cannot afford them.
> Perhaps you should start a program to assist them so they may participate.
> You can fund it by putting a non-use tax on the wood saved by use of a thin
> kerf blade.
>
Sounds like an opportunity to create another un-needed government
organization to provide "thin kerf" stamps to the disadvantaged. Will
Lee Valley accept US issued "thin kerf" stamps or are we stuck with just
US tools stores?

The real question though is if you lacking in "thin kerfs" do you vote
for Kerry or Bush?

RB

>

Are you a veteran? You may be eligible.

I met a guy this weekend at a class at my local Woodcraft and the VA gives
him a little stipend for a hobby to keep him busy. I found this to be a
great use of tax dollars. Honestly, I apprreciate and respect our veterans
and this guy was a Vietnam Vet who cannot work for whatever reasons.

Rich



"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "RB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Sounds like an opportunity to create another un-needed government
> > organization to provide "thin kerf" stamps to the disadvantaged. Will
> > Lee Valley accept US issued "thin kerf" stamps or are we stuck with just
> > US tools stores?
>
> Hey, don't count people so quickly. I'm a poor, disadvantaged person in a
> wheelchair. I'd be happy if your government doled out free, thin kerf
> blades out to us. Just let me know where I can sign up. If I play up the
> disadvantaged part properly, do you think I could get a government
supplied
> cabinet saw to go with that thin, kerf blade? If I'm going to get free
> blade, then I should also be provided the tool to use it. Makes sense,
> right?
>
>

"RKON" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:B5jcc.52310$mf.7360@okepread05...
> Are you a veteran? You may be eligible.
>
> I met a guy this weekend at a class at my local Woodcraft and the VA gives
> him a little stipend for a hobby to keep him busy. I found this to be a
> great use of tax dollars. Honestly, I apprreciate and respect our veterans
> and this guy was a Vietnam Vet who cannot work for whatever reasons.

No, I'm not. I'm Canadian with my own warped sense of humour. But hell, if
there was a way to accomplish it in the US, I'd damned well try to find a
way to incorporate the same thing up here. :)

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 13:22:36 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>This survey is against everything we stand for in America. There are people
>excluded from participation because all they have is a bandsaw or even just
>a handsaw.

Those would be considered "thin kerf". <G>

Barry

"RB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sounds like an opportunity to create another un-needed government
> organization to provide "thin kerf" stamps to the disadvantaged. Will
> Lee Valley accept US issued "thin kerf" stamps or are we stuck with just
> US tools stores?

Hey, don't count people so quickly. I'm a poor, disadvantaged person in a
wheelchair. I'd be happy if your government doled out free, thin kerf
blades out to us. Just let me know where I can sign up. If I play up the
disadvantaged part properly, do you think I could get a government supplied
cabinet saw to go with that thin, kerf blade? If I'm going to get free
blade, then I should also be provided the tool to use it. Makes sense,
right?

"Bernard Randall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Hopefully, people who have experience with this type of blade could answer
> the survey to see if their are any common threads, so that in the future
we
> can give more definite results on this question. Perhaps if we could get
> enough responses we could then ask some of the manufacturers to review and
> comment.

This survey is against everything we stand for in America. There are people
excluded from participation because all they have is a bandsaw or even just
a handsaw. They must be permitted to take surveys also. You should also do
more to encourage women with thin kerfs to participate too. What about
people that would like to have thin kerf blades but cannot afford them.
Perhaps you should start a program to assist them so they may participate.
You can fund it by putting a non-use tax on the wood saved by use of a thin
kerf blade.