Ja

Jones

01/03/2008 12:45 AM

Leveling Waterstones?

I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons
but also for chisels.

Eventually I will need to level it.

What do you use to level waterstones?

I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?

Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?

I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other
uses than that.

Thanks for any advice.

Jones.


This topic has 25 replies

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 7:51 PM

Andy Dingley wrote:

> On 1 Mar, 00:45, Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
> Concrete paving slab (my doorstep) used wet. Works fine, just wash it
> well afterwards -- waterstone slurry is as slippery as greased weasel
> shit.
>
... and you know that because ...?

> Same slab used dry also works for flattening cuttlefish bone (casting
> moulds).

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

DB

"Doug Brown"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 12:15 AM

Tanus wrote:
> Jones wrote:
>> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane
>> irons but also for chisels.
>>
>> Eventually I will need to level it.
>>
>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
>
>
>>
>> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>
> Should do.
>>
>> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>
> Yep
>>
>> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
>> that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other
>> uses than that.
>
> This is what I use:
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071
>
> It's a lot less than $60. It may have
> other uses. Levelling is all I use it for.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Jones.

Yabut! You have an advantage 'cause the main Lee Valley store is just a
(relative) hop skip and jump away for you. Not fair (in a whiny sort of
voice).

DB

"Doug Brown"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 12:17 AM

Garage_Woodworks wrote:
> "Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:2008022919451116807-at@yourhousenet...
>> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane
>> irons but also for chisels.
>>
>> Eventually I will need to level it.
>>
>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>
>> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>>
>> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>>
>> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively
>> for that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has
>> other uses than that.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Jones.
>>
>
> I have a norton flatteniong stone, but you can also rub two
> waterstones together and they both will become flat. This is why I
> will no longer buy combo stones. It's kind of hard to flatten one
> side of a stone with the other side.

Well I think I agree with you but you really gotta go over to
alt.home.repair - they have this either really interesting or really lame
discussion going on about rips in the space time continuum and all.

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 6:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>Andy Dingley wrote:
>
>> On 1 Mar, 00:45, Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>
>> Concrete paving slab (my doorstep) used wet. Works fine, just wash it
>> well afterwards -- waterstone slurry is as slippery as greased weasel
>> shit.
>>
> ... and you know that because ...?

GOOD Question!!

Once you get the grease applied to the weasel it's _really_ difficult to
keep them around until they shit.


Bb

Brent

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 2:40 PM

On Mar 1, 1:15 am, "Doug Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tanus wrote:
> > Jones wrote:
> >> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane
> >> irons but also for chisels.
>
> >> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> >> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
> >> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>
> > Should do.
>
> >> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>
> > Yep
>
> >> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
> >> that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other
> >> uses than that.
>
> > This is what I use:
> >http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071
>
> > It's a lot less than $60. It may have
> > other uses. Levelling is all I use it for.
>
> >> Thanks for any advice.
>
> >> Jones.
>
> Yabut! You have an advantage 'cause the main Lee Valley store is just a
> (relative) hop skip and jump away for you. Not fair (in a whiny sort of
> voice).

Even with shipping it isnt too bad

but i cant talk every time i drive to work i pass within 200 yards of
Lee Valley HQ

Brent in Ottawa

Ja

Jones

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 2:19 PM

On 2008-02-29 19:45:10 -0500, Jones <[email protected]> said:

> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons
> but also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>
> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>
> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
> that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other
> uses than that.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Jones.

Thank you for all the replies.

Jones.

Ja

Jones

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 3:20 PM

On 2008-03-01 09:16:50 -0500, "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> said:

>
> "Doug Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Well I think I agree with you but you really gotta go over to
>> alt.home.repair - they have this either really interesting or really lame
>> discussion going on about rips in the space time continuum and all.
>>
>
> Yeah. I guess it would work if you could get one side of the stone in one
> brane and the other side in another brane...or something.

You...stoner.

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 12:52 AM

Jones took a can of maroon spray paint on February 29, 2008 07:45 pm and
wrote the following:

> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons
> but also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
I recommend a PM66 table.

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Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 6:10 PM

On 1 Mar, 00:45, Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> What do you use to level waterstones?

Concrete paving slab (my doorstep) used wet. Works fine, just wash it
well afterwards -- waterstone slurry is as slippery as greased weasel
shit.

Same slab used dry also works for flattening cuttlefish bone (casting
moulds).

jn

"joe"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 7:23 PM


"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Andy Dingley wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 Mar, 00:45, Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>>
>>> Concrete paving slab (my doorstep) used wet. Works fine, just wash it
>>> well afterwards -- waterstone slurry is as slippery as greased weasel
>>> shit.
>>>
>> ... and you know that because ...?
>
> GOOD Question!!
>
> Once you get the grease applied to the weasel it's _really_ difficult to
> keep them around until they shit.
>
>
>
Now I'm confused. Is it the weasel or the shit that's greased??????

If it's the weasel, I understand your point, if it's the shit, can I still
use the weasel for a push stick?

jc

G@

"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 10:39 PM


"Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2008022919451116807-at@yourhousenet...
>I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons but
>also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>
> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>
> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for that
> purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other uses than
> that.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Jones.
>

I have a norton flatteniong stone, but you can also rub two waterstones
together and they both will become flat. This is why I will no longer buy
combo stones. It's kind of hard to flatten one side of a stone with the
other side.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

G@

"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 9:16 AM


"Doug Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well I think I agree with you but you really gotta go over to
> alt.home.repair - they have this either really interesting or really lame
> discussion going on about rips in the space time continuum and all.
>

Yeah. I guess it would work if you could get one side of the stone in one
brane and the other side in another brane...or something.

G@

"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 11:19 AM


"Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2008030110204375249-at@yourhousenet...
> On 2008-03-01 09:16:50 -0500, "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> said:
>
>>
>> "Doug Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Well I think I agree with you but you really gotta go over to
>>> alt.home.repair - they have this either really interesting or really
>>> lame
>>> discussion going on about rips in the space time continuum and all.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah. I guess it would work if you could get one side of the stone in
>> one
>> brane and the other side in another brane...or something.
>
> You...stoner.
>
>

Get in the shop and make something.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 11:33 AM

Tanus <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is what I use:
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071

> It's a lot less than $60. It may have other uses. Levelling is all I
> use it for.

Flip it over on its back side and use it as a coarse stone.

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remove ".invalid".

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Maxwell Lol

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

02/03/2008 8:59 AM

"joe" <[email protected]> writes:

> > Once you get the grease applied to the weasel it's _really_ difficult to
> > keep them around until they shit.
> Now I'm confused. Is it the weasel or the shit that's greased??????
>
> If it's the weasel, I understand your point, if it's the shit, can I still
> use the weasel for a push stick?

If you are in a rush, freeze the weasel first.
If not, sun-dried. Takes a while.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 6:51 PM


"Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2008022919451116807-at@yourhousenet...
>I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons but
>also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?

A level?

Would you rather flatten it?

Sand paper on top of a granite tile.






ST

Steve Turner

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

02/03/2008 9:16 PM

Jones wrote:
> On 2008-02-29 19:45:10 -0500, Jones <[email protected]> said:
>
>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>
>> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?

I didn't see anybody else answer this one; yes, I use my 220 grit
diamond stone to flatten my Norton water stone and it works fine.

--
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(From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago)
To reply, eat the taco.

ji

jbd in Denver

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

03/03/2008 3:55 PM

Jones <[email protected]> wrote in news:2008030109191816807-at@yourhousenet:


And for the record, the Norton flattening stone is junk...

Used one for a while, and gets out of flat quicker than a waterstone.
Answer, flatten the Norton flattening stone - frequently. What is the
point? I asked the question - was told it was junk.

Use a coarse\x-coarse DMT duosharp plate, sandpaper on a flat surface, etc,
etc, etc.

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Mb

MB

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 5:01 PM

I have a norton flattening stone. But I think it was about $25. (From
woodcraft,so you know it wasn't a bargain!)

jn

"joe"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 1:22 AM


"Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2008022919451116807-at@yourhousenet...
>I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons but
>also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?
>
> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>
> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>
> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for that
> purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other uses than
> that.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Jones.
>
Cheapest flattening plate you can imagine is a cinder block. I use one to
flatten my waterstones all the time and it works great.

joe

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 3:17 PM

On 1 Mar, 18:59, [email protected] (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> Once you get the grease applied to the weasel it's _really_ difficult to
> keep them around until they shit.

Kittymalt hairball remedy. You put the grease _inside_ the weasel,
then they empty rapidly.

TT

Tanus

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

29/02/2008 8:39 PM

Jones wrote:
> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane irons
> but also for chisels.
>
> Eventually I will need to level it.
>
> What do you use to level waterstones?



>
> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?

Should do.
>
> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?

Yep
>
> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
> that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other uses
> than that.

This is what I use:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071

It's a lot less than $60. It may have
other uses. Levelling is all I use it for.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Jones.
>


--

Tanus

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

TT

Tanus

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 9:03 AM

Doug Brown wrote:
> Tanus wrote:
>> Jones wrote:
>>> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane
>>> irons but also for chisels.
>>>
>>> Eventually I will need to level it.
>>>
>>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>
>>
>>> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>> Should do.
>>> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>> Yep
>>> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively for
>>> that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has other
>>> uses than that.
>> This is what I use:
>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071
>>
>> It's a lot less than $60. It may have
>> other uses. Levelling is all I use it for.
>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>>
>>> Jones.
>
> Yabut! You have an advantage 'cause the main Lee Valley store is just a
> (relative) hop skip and jump away for you. Not fair (in a whiny sort of
> voice).
>
>

Sigh. It used to be. From the house,
it's about 40 miles. A year or so ago, I
worked in a building kitty corner from
the flagship.

I found it almost sacrilegious not to go
in once a week. Now, I don't get in the
store more than once a month, and
they've removed the name from my easy
chair, given preferred parking to a
homeless man, and they've mostly
forgotten who I am.

SWMBO is real happy that there isn't
that constant drain on the bank acct. tho.

--

Tanus

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 8:46 PM

Brent wrote:
> On Mar 1, 1:15 am, "Doug Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tanus wrote:
>>> Jones wrote:
>>>> I have a Norton 1000/4000 waterstone that I use mainly for plane
>>>> irons but also for chisels.
>>
>>>> Eventually I will need to level it.
>>
>>>> What do you use to level waterstones?
>>
>>>> I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?
>>
>>> Should do.
>>
>>>> Can I use some wet/dry paper on a flat surface?
>>
>>> Yep
>>
>>>> I have trouble paying $60 for a Norton leveling stone exclusively
>>>> for that purpose, ya see...and I'd like to use something that has
>>>> other uses than that.
>>
>>> This is what I use:
>>> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55067&cat=1,43072,43071
>>
>>> It's a lot less than $60. It may have
>>> other uses. Levelling is all I use it for.
>>
>>>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>>>> Jones.
>>
>> Yabut! You have an advantage 'cause the main Lee Valley store is
>> just a (relative) hop skip and jump away for you. Not fair (in a
>> whiny sort of voice).
>
> Even with shipping it isnt too bad
>
> but i cant talk every time i drive to work i pass within 200 yards
> of
> Lee Valley HQ

That qualifies as a gloat IMO, so let me be the first to say "You
_suck_!"


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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Jones on 01/03/2008 12:45 AM

01/03/2008 12:56 AM

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:45:10 GMT, Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>What do you use to level waterstones?
>
>I have a 11-1/2" diamond grit (325) stone...will that work?

That's what I use.


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