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"R. Pierce Butler"

28/08/2006 11:41 PM

strange router bits

I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost as much as
I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it is no machine aluminum
using standward woodworking tools like a band saw, scroll saw, drill press
and router.

I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my father.
These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to cut aluminum. They
are not carbide tipped but possibly pure carbide. The company that made them
is "The Tarpley Company". I can find nothing about the company and it's
products.

The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route aluminum or
is that a really bad idea?


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Phisherman

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 4:20 PM

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:41:39 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost as much as
>I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it is no machine aluminum
>using standward woodworking tools like a band saw, scroll saw, drill press
>and router.
>
>I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my father.
>These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to cut aluminum. They
>are not carbide tipped but possibly pure carbide. The company that made them
>is "The Tarpley Company". I can find nothing about the company and it's
>products.
>
>The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route aluminum or
>is that a really bad idea?


Metals should be cut at a slower speed than metals. There are tables
you can get to find out the proper speeds for any particular metal.
Most routers turn too fast for metal work.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 2:18 PM

R. Pierce Butler wrote:
> I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost
> as much as I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it is
> no machine aluminum using standward woodworking tools like a band
> saw, scroll saw, drill press and router.
>
> I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my
> father. These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to cut
> aluminum. They are not carbide tipped but possibly pure carbide.
> The company that made them is "The Tarpley Company". I can find
> nothing about the company and it's products.
>
> The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route
> aluminum or is that a really bad idea?

You can use high speed steel bits too, single flute or not. Just
don't try to take off too much at a time and be aware that aluminum
shavings may fuse (melt).

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"R. Pierce Butler"

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 2:24 AM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:41:39 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost as
>>much as I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it is no
>>machine aluminum using standward woodworking tools like a band saw,
>>scroll saw, drill press and router.
>>
>>I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my father.
>> These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to cut aluminum.
>>They are not carbide tipped but possibly pure carbide. The company that
>>made them is "The Tarpley Company". I can find nothing about the company
>>and it's products.
>>
>>The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route
>>aluminum or is that a really bad idea?
>
>
> Bad idea! Typically router bits are large diameter, and not designed
> for aluminum. Also I am not familiar with a single flute bit.
>
> You can tell just by the weight if it's solid carbide or not. Carbide
> has about twice the weight of steel.
>
> Gary
>

I would say they are pure carbide. They are remarkably heavy.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 7:04 PM

Tell that to the Boeing Aircraft Company. They (and their suppliers) have
been routing aluminum for years. Table mounted router. Template guided work.
The book speed for aluminum with carbide is 1200SFM. These table are very
conservative and were made in the early days of carbide. I routinely run
4000SFM with good results. I use better carbide than the average router bit
though but 2500SFM would not at all be unreasonable. A 1/2 router bit at
2500SFM would be turning at just over 19000 RPM. That said, I wouldn't do it
on a regular basis with any router I cared about. The machine is not
designed for it and aluminum chips gall up the works pretty bad. I have a
PC 690 sitting in the garage right now that has done considerable amounts of
aluminum. The height adjustment is wasted.

"Phisherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Metals should be cut at a slower speed than metals. There are tables
> you can get to find out the proper speeds for any particular metal.
> Most routers turn too fast for metal work.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 2:15 PM

R. Pierce Butler wrote:
> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:41:39 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost
>>> as much as I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it
>>> is no machine aluminum using standward woodworking tools like a
>>> band saw, scroll saw, drill press and router.
>>>
>>> I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my
>>> father. These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to
>>> cut aluminum. They are not carbide tipped but possibly pure
>>> carbide. The company that made them is "The Tarpley Company". I
>>> can find nothing about the company and it's products.
>>>
>>> The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route
>>> aluminum or is that a really bad idea?
>>
>>
>> Bad idea! Typically router bits are large diameter, and not
>> designed for aluminum. Also I am not familiar with a single flute
>> bit.
>>
>> You can tell just by the weight if it's solid carbide or not.
>> Carbide has about twice the weight of steel.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>
> I would say they are pure carbide. They are remarkably heavy.

Carbide is an obviously different color too.

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g

in reply to "R. Pierce Butler" on 28/08/2006 11:41 PM

29/08/2006 12:24 AM

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:41:39 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have discovered that I like machining aluminum and brass almost as much as
>I like machining wood. It is surprising how easy it is no machine aluminum
>using standward woodworking tools like a band saw, scroll saw, drill press
>and router.
>
>I have a few rather strange router bits that I inherited from my father.
>These are small 1/4 inch single flute bits designed to cut aluminum. They
>are not carbide tipped but possibly pure carbide. The company that made them
>is "The Tarpley Company". I can find nothing about the company and it's
>products.
>
>The question is can I use any carbide tipped router bit to route aluminum or
>is that a really bad idea?


Bad idea! Typically router bits are large diameter, and not designed
for aluminum. Also I am not familiar with a single flute bit.

You can tell just by the weight if it's solid carbide or not. Carbide
has about twice the weight of steel.

Gary


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