When I am able to start my learning process of woodwork I will be starting
with box making, following a book. ...Don't know which book it will be but
definetly a book. I have bought "Box making basics" by David M. Freeman
but apparently it is for those that are knowledgeable and can easily follow
it and "pick-it-up" using all power tools, no hand joinery involved. In my
case I will be using hand tools, and I need to plane grooves, slots, routes,
dados? I need to know which (non combination type) type of plane I should
buy, that will route a slot that is in from the edge of a small board... any
ideas?
Thanks anyone who can help,
Alex
patriarch <<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [sniip]
>
> That said, the best tool for making accurate dados, grooves, and rabbets in
> materials for boxes is almost certainly a good, small, electric powered
> router.
For grooves, I can't think of anything better than the Record #044
(cute little metal plough plane, Paddy). It may not be as fast as a
routah, but it's a heckuva lot more fun, IMHO.
One time when I was using mine, SWMBO'ette #2 came out into the
shop to see what I was up to and she immediately asked if I could
collect some of the cool little "curlies" to give to her when I was
done.
I don't imagine she would have done that had I been using a routah.
:-)
> Enjoy the process.
And that's exactly why I like the #044 so much. I can't say I ever
enjoy the process when I'm using a tool that's got a sharp carbide bit
in it spinning at 21,000 r.p.m. at just about the level of the fambly
jewels (tm, somebody). :-}
Chuck Vance
> And, for a West Coast guy, not retired yet, purchasing a handplane from
> Patrick has been a safe, reliable means of getting good, old iron.
> He doesn't give stuff away, but his prices are fair, and his terms of
> business are remarkable, in this day and age. I've purchased 4 old
> Stanleys from him, (#3,#4,#6 and a fillister) and would do so again.
> Patriarch
Yeah I just emailed him a few days ago for his prices for #112 scrapers, no reply
yet. I do want a scraper plane. Thanks for the insight though, about the quality of his
business.
Alex
AArDvarK wrote:
> I need to know which (non combination type) type of plane I should
> buy, that will route a slot that is in from the edge of a small board... any
> ideas?
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0.htm
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan5.htm
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan10.htm
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan11.htm
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan14.htm
I highly recommend that you read through the website. It's
amusing, informative and educational. Just say, TmPL, read it.
Dave in Fairfax
--
Dave Leader
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<JATGc.14349$z81.6595@fed1read01>...
> When I am able to start my learning process of woodwork I will be starting
> with box making
Dadoing 101 --->>> http://www.klownhammer.org/dado
The Stanley #78, a moving fillester and rabbet plane is not really
suited for dadoes, owing to it not possessing a skewed iron... which
is pretty much necessary for cutting across grain. Dadoes are also
easily accomplished by hand, when done with a back saw, chisel (and
optionally a router plane for that final, finished, spiffy look).
A #78 is quite handy for rabbets. I highly recommend using a
weightlifter's or bicyclist's glove for your left hand because the
metal isn't all that skin-friendly. DAMHIKT.
Humbly submitted,
O'Deen
> Do you get his monthly emailed tool list? http://www.supertool.com/oldtools.htm
> Not that there any scraper planes this month, but it's nice to look forward
> to the first of the month.
> Joe
> waiting for the #78
>
No but now I'll do that, email list. There are several of the 78's on ebay with and
without attachments, about two are new ones. And if you get a nice parcial one,
all of the parts are still available from the stanley company. And thanks for the
tip.
Alex
dave in fairfax <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> AArDvarK wrote:
>> I need to know which (non combination type) type of plane I should
>> buy, that will route a slot that is in from the edge of a small
>> board... any ideas?
<snippage>
> I highly recommend that you read through the website. It's
> amusing, informative and educational. Just say, TmPL, read it.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
And, for a West Coast guy, not retired yet, purchasing a handplane from
Patrick has been a safe, reliable means of getting good, old iron.
He doesn't give stuff away, but his prices are fair, and his terms of
business are remarkable, in this day and age. I've purchased 4 old
Stanleys from him, (#3,#4,#6 and a fillister) and would do so again.
Patriarch
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:JATGc.14349$z81.6595@fed1read01:
>
> When I am able to start my learning process of woodwork I will be
> starting with box making, following a book. ...Don't know which book
> it will be but definetly a book. I have bought "Box making basics" by
> David M. Freeman but apparently it is for those that are knowledgeable
> and can easily follow it and "pick-it-up" using all power tools, no
> hand joinery involved. In my case I will be using hand tools, and I
> need to plane grooves, slots, routes, dados? I need to know which (non
> combination type) type of plane I should buy, that will route a slot
> that is in from the edge of a small board... any ideas?
>
> Thanks anyone who can help,
>
> Alex
Box making is an excellent place to start the learning process. Accuracy
in every step is revealed in the finish product, because it is examined so
closely by almost every observer. Mistakes don't consume 25 bd ft of
expensive hardwoods. You can use pieces others consider scrap.
I recommend to you two books from the same series, "The Complete
Illustrated Guide to:"
Doug Stowe's "Box Making", http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/070721.asp
and
Gary Rogowski's "Joinery", http://www.taunton.com/store/pages/070535.asp
Excellent, well-illustrated, and pretty complete. Look for them as trade
paperbacks, and save a few bucks, if you want. Both cover hand tool and
machine methods.
That said, the best tool for making accurate dados, grooves, and rabbets in
materials for boxes is almost certainly a good, small, electric powered
router.
Enjoy the process.
AArDvarK wrote:
>>And, for a West Coast guy, not retired yet, purchasing a handplane from
>>Patrick has been a safe, reliable means of getting good, old iron.
>>He doesn't give stuff away, but his prices are fair, and his terms of
>>business are remarkable, in this day and age. I've purchased 4 old
>>Stanleys from him, (#3,#4,#6 and a fillister) and would do so again.
>>Patriarch
>
>
>
> Yeah I just emailed him a few days ago for his prices for #112 scrapers, no reply
> yet. I do want a scraper plane. Thanks for the insight though, about the quality of his
> business.
>
> Alex
>
>
Do you get his monthly emailed tool list? http://www.supertool.com/oldtools.htm
Not that there any scraper planes this month, but it's nice to look forward
to the first of the month.
Joe
waiting for the #78
AArDvarK wrote:
>>Do you get his monthly emailed tool list? http://www.supertool.com/oldtools.htm
>>Not that there any scraper planes this month, but it's nice to look forward
>>to the first of the month.
>>Joe
>>waiting for the #78
>>
>
>
> No but now I'll do that, email list. There are several of the 78's on ebay with and
> without attachments, about two are new ones. And if you get a nice parcial one,
> all of the parts are still available from the stanley company. And thanks for the
> tip.
>
> Alex
>
>
You're welcome.
That's what the wreck is about.
Joe
still waiting. Why isn't USPS faster, it's been almost a day now:-)