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Sonnich Jensen

10/08/2012 11:49 PM

Google groups help

This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find how to post.

1) how do I post to a group without joining it?

2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?

I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
So does the help


This topic has 15 replies

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 8:13 AM

Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not
> provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour
> trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find
> how to post.
>
> 1) how do I post to a group without joining it?

You should be able to post just by signing in. Did you post this post from
google groups?

>
> 2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like
> microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?

From the main window select Browse All (or something like that...), then
type in a search criteria in the Groups window. Type in windows 7 or
something similar.

>
> I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
> So does the help

You can go back to the old look - there is a button on the upper right
corner.

Don't know why anyone would want to post from google groups at all though.
Just get a free or a cheap news service and use that whereever you are.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

13/08/2012 9:54 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:13:06 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dave wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the
>>>> group creator.
>>>
>>> Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups?
>>
>> Follow the following link. It will permit you to create a group and
>> restrict, if you wish, who can post to it.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&pli=1
>
> It's not just Google groups. Usenet groups can be moderated, too.
> My server shows 68 .moderated groups and they only carry text groups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Last I checked, there
>>> were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
>>> over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
>>> to join it to post.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?
>
> One I used to follow is sci.military.moderated.

Yeahbut most moderated groups do not require you to "join". It's just that
posts are reviewed for content. In fact, in the world of usenet, I've never
seen a moderated group that required one to join the group. Posting was
open to anyone, but all posts were reviewed by the moderators. But then
again - there are a lot of things I've never seen in my life - like my
wife's... well... we won't go there...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Du

Dave

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 4:36 AM

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find how to post.
>
>1) how do I post to a group without joining it?
>
>2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?
>
>I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
>So does the help

??? You just did post to rec.woodworking. There's nothing to join.
Some news readers can also search the newsgroups.

Try alt.windows7.general

ME

Martin Eastburn

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 8:32 PM

Most groups don't allow outsiders to post. Lucky to be able to read.

If you are into the subject join. If just kicking tires don't.

Martin in a number of groups.

On 8/11/2012 1:49 AM, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find how to post.
>
> 1) how do I post to a group without joining it?
>
> 2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?
>
> I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
> So does the help
>

kk

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

13/08/2012 9:30 PM

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:57:22 -0400, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.
>
>Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups? Last I checked, there
>were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
>over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
>to join it to post.
>
>Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?

Any that are .moderated.

Du

Dave

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 10:57 PM

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.

Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups? Last I checked, there
were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
to join it to post.

Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 7:30 AM

Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not
> provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour
> trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find
> how to post.
>
> 1) how do I post to a group without joining it?

Get to the group (see below) and sign in.

> 2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like
> microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?

By typing the group name - in whole or part - in the search window.

> I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
> So does the help

So choose the option to have the "old look". Better yet, dump Google groups
and post/read through one of the many free news servers.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net

BB

Bill

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 6:36 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find how to post.
>>
>> 1) how do I post to a group without joining it?

SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.


>>
>> 2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?
>>
>> I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
>> So does the help
>
> ??? You just did post to rec.woodworking. There's nothing to join.
> Some news readers can also search the newsgroups.
>
> Try alt.windows7.general
>

BB

Bill

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 11:06 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.
>
> Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups?

He asked about "Google Groups"--which is not quite the same as Usenet
(obviously), althogh many Usenet groups are Googe Groups.


Last I checked, there
> were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
> over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
> to join it to post.
>
> Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?

A group corresponding to a local music non-profit organization that I
was once a member of. Hmm..maybe it's a Yahoo group. If you are still
concerned about the difference I'll look it up.

BB

Bill

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 11:13 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.
>
> Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups?

Follow the following link. It will permit you to create a group and
restrict, if you wish, who can post to it.

http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&pli=1



Last I checked, there
> were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
> over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
> to join it to post.
>
> Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?


Make you own (see above)!

BB

Bill

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 11:33 PM

Dave wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:06:27 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> He asked about "Google Groups"--which is not quite the same as Usenet
>> (obviously), althogh many Usenet groups are Googe Groups.
>
> Then it was my mistake. I thought he was asking about usenet groups
> (like this one).
>

I think there was just confusion about the difference. No prob.

Du

Dave

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 11:27 PM

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:06:27 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>He asked about "Google Groups"--which is not quite the same as Usenet
>(obviously), althogh many Usenet groups are Googe Groups.

Then it was my mistake. I thought he was asking about usenet groups
(like this one).

WB

William Bagwell

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

11/08/2012 12:37 PM

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This is really the wrong place to ask, but since google does not provide any proper help, I have to start here. I have spent an hour trying to get the new google groups to work. It took 1 hout to find how to post.
>
>1) how do I post to a group without joining it?
>
>2) if I want to find a group for windows 7 (something like microsoft.public.... win7) - how can I search for the group name?
>
>I write here as I cannot do anything else. This new look sucks
>So does the help

Google groups include many old (text only) Usenet groups. However, most new
Usenet groups created in the past few years are not carried there. Plus they
allow people to create google groups which are not also usenet groups. Very
confusing...

Microsoft no longer supports any of its products via Usenet or even has a news
server. Many old groups from the past are still alive on Usenet (and apparently
Google groups?) microsoft.public.it.windows7 exists on Usenet and may possibly
be carried by Google groups. Due to its poor propagation it may be useless even
on the few servers which carry the group.

Handy search tool for searching for true Usenet groups.
http://groupsearch.alt-config.net/engine.html
http://groupsearch.alt-config.net/cgi-bin/prop.pl?action=search&group=microsoft.public.it.windows7&cpout=yes&sorting=group

And yes, Google has been *removing* features from its 'Groups' interface since
shortly after it bought the Deja News archive! "Sucks" is way too mild of an
adjective to describe my feelings...
--
William

kk

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

13/08/2012 9:45 PM

On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:13:06 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:

>Dave wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:36:26 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> SOME groups do require you to join to post. It's up to the group creator.
>>
>> Really? Are you talking about usenet newsgroups?
>
>Follow the following link. It will permit you to create a group and
>restrict, if you wish, who can post to it.
>
>http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&pli=1

It's not just Google groups. Usenet groups can be moderated, too. My server
shows 68 .moderated groups and they only carry text groups.
>
>
>
>Last I checked, there
>> were over 80,000 usenet newsgroups and I've probably had a look at
>> over a 1,000 of them. I've never come across one that needed someone
>> to join it to post.
>>
>> Perhaps you'd like to list a few of those that need someone to join?

One I used to follow is sci.military.moderated.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Sonnich Jensen on 10/08/2012 11:49 PM

12/08/2012 10:25 AM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:06:27 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> He asked about "Google Groups"--which is not quite the same as Usenet
>>> (obviously), althogh many Usenet groups are Googe Groups.
>>
>> Then it was my mistake. I thought he was asking about usenet groups
>> (like this one).
>>
>
> I think there was just confusion about the difference. No prob.

...then again their are the moderated Usenet groups where someone (or a few)
screens everything before it's posted. Moderators can be fickle... maybe he
didn't like you. I'd take it personally. ;~)

John


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