Don wrote:
> I have started using the around twenty dollars Japanese pull saws. I
> find they are easy to keep on a line and a whole lot less muscle
> power.
> Does anyone else use these as opposed to the push saws?
>
> Don
I teach a short class on handcut dovetails a few times a year. I
always bring an assortment of Western and Japanese style saws and let
the students try out both. The students seem to strongly prefer one or
the other, and in the classes I've taught there seems to be a slight
preference for the Western saw. However, I've seen equally good joints
cut with either one.
AAvK wrote:
> > I teach a short class on handcut dovetails a few times a year. I
> > always bring an assortment of Western and Japanese style saws and let
> > the students try out both. The students seem to strongly prefer one or
> > the other, and in the classes I've taught there seems to be a slight
> > preference for the Western saw. However, I've seen equally good joints
> > cut with either one.
> >
>
> Interesting, which is your favorite western dovetail saw?
>
My favorite is a Groves and Sons 8" tapered backsaw with an open grip
handle, obtained from Ebay and resharpened. I have several; Disston,
Jackson, Atkins, etc. I also have a couple of modern saws; a gents
style saw with the set pressed out and resharpened by Two Cherries
(mostly just so students can try the round handle), and a modern LN
Independence backsaw. I paid a fair sum for the Independence saw but I
just plain don't like it as well as the Groves. The LN does cut a bit
smoother but is harder to start and does not cut nearly as fast.
>I have started using the around twenty dollars Japanese pull saws. I
> find they are easy to keep on a line and a whole lot less muscle
> power.
> Does anyone else use these as opposed to the push saws?
>
> Don
I use both. The Japanese saws are great, I think. It's just a question of a different
way of maintaining how it is held and balanced for a straight kerf. I adapted right
to it without a mental sweat. First I bought the mini Shark ryoba, then the Vaughan
"Bear" ryoba, which is full sized with a narrower width than the full sized Shark
and more $. I am really impressed with the quality of cut. They are for fine work,
and for use in finer ways of doing the more major work.
But I do not use them "as opposed to" the Disston D-23! Also a masterwork.
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> I teach a short class on handcut dovetails a few times a year. I
> always bring an assortment of Western and Japanese style saws and let
> the students try out both. The students seem to strongly prefer one or
> the other, and in the classes I've taught there seems to be a slight
> preference for the Western saw. However, I've seen equally good joints
> cut with either one.
>
Interesting, which is your favorite western dovetail saw?
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cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:44:25 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
<[email protected]> quickly quoth:
>I have started using the around twenty dollars Japanese pull saws. I
>find they are easy to keep on a line and a whole lot less muscle
>power.
>Does anyone else use these as opposed to the push saws?
The Japan Woodworker has a razor saw for $26 delivered which has
become my favorite saw, and I have a stable of old Disstons and
Adkins, a LV dovie, and a few others. Hell, I even use it to hack
up tuba fores. They don't tire you like a push saw will, either.
Look for JWW's ad in the back of most FWW mags.
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"Don" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have started using the around twenty dollars Japanese pull saws. I
> find they are easy to keep on a line and a whole lot less muscle
> power.
> Does anyone else use these as opposed to the push saws?
>
I use the Japanese saws and other types, but the Japanese types really shine
for cutting kerfs in material to go on the lathe. Less bounce to the ounce
when starting the cut, so it's faster and neater--at least for me.