Got tired of waiting for the hose/gate/etc. kit to arrive... only put
the DC together last night, but when you've discussed the purchase for
weeks before ordering it, you hate to see it sit there not doing
anything..
So, as an excuse to not work, I decided to go ahead and build the
cyclone can..
Checked out several designs on the web.. they all seem to be pretty
much a trash can lid with two 4" fittings, the one used for "in"
connected to an elbow inside to make it swirl, I guess..
Saw an old rubbermaid garbage can in the yard.. perfect! has wheels
and a locking lid..
Went to good ol' Lowes and got 2 dryer install kits and a couple of
extra clamps, came home and cut holes in the lid, put the fittings on
with 1 dryer hose to the DC and ran the other out 6 or 7 feet with an
extra elbow on the end..
Stuck the elbow in the back of the box I made for my RAS and fired
both up.. (waited until the power company had recovered from the
DC-caused brown out then turned on the saw)
Yep.. the folks on the wreck were right.. helps some but not very
impressive on a RAS..
Then I got braver and decided to see how the cyclone did with
something other than sawdust... set the hose down in a box that I'd
swept the floor into last night... "clunk, pop, rattle", all gone and
no sound of the DC impeller getting dinged with a screw or anything!
Pop the top on the cyclone.. my guess is that about 90% is in there
instead of in the DC bag or imbedded in the impeller.. COOL!
Cleaning up was getting fun.. interesting experience, having less
actual "suction" than the shop vac, but SO much volume.. amazing..
Problem was, I couldn't reach much of the garage with the 8' dryer
hose, so I put a 12' 1 1/2" shop vac hose on it, with a redneck
reducer.. (smashed the metal dryer hose down around it and duct taped
the sucker)
Not as much cleaning action as the shop vac, but at least the cyclone
is helping... OH! I should check the cyclone... yep.. looks like as
soon as I went down to the skinny hose, the suction from the DC
collapsed the trash can... it was laying down real dead looking and
almost FLAT!
This learning stuff is fun... when the hoses and gates get here, I
might just suck my neighbors house off the foundation for the hell of
it..
Thanks for letting me rant.. I feel MUCH better now...
I think I'll go buy a metal garbage can..
Hi Mac,
Glad that you are enjoying your new toy. After a while, when you get
all your gates & tubes set up and actually start using it, check out
the remote control ("Lone Ranger" is the one I have) - this gives you
another degree of improvement/satisfction.
Lou
In article <[email protected]>, mac davis
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Got tired of waiting for the hose/gate/etc. kit to arrive... only put
> the DC together last night, but when you've discussed the purchase for
> weeks before ordering it, you hate to see it sit there not doing
> anything..
> So, as an excuse to not work, I decided to go ahead and build the
> cyclone can..
>
> Checked out several designs on the web.. they all seem to be pretty
> much a trash can lid with two 4" fittings, the one used for "in"
> connected to an elbow inside to make it swirl, I guess..
>
> Saw an old rubbermaid garbage can in the yard.. perfect! has wheels
> and a locking lid..
> Went to good ol' Lowes and got 2 dryer install kits and a couple of
> extra clamps, came home and cut holes in the lid, put the fittings on
> with 1 dryer hose to the DC and ran the other out 6 or 7 feet with an
> extra elbow on the end..
>
> Stuck the elbow in the back of the box I made for my RAS and fired
> both up.. (waited until the power company had recovered from the
> DC-caused brown out then turned on the saw)
> Yep.. the folks on the wreck were right.. helps some but not very
> impressive on a RAS..
>
> Then I got braver and decided to see how the cyclone did with
> something other than sawdust... set the hose down in a box that I'd
> swept the floor into last night... "clunk, pop, rattle", all gone and
> no sound of the DC impeller getting dinged with a screw or anything!
> Pop the top on the cyclone.. my guess is that about 90% is in there
> instead of in the DC bag or imbedded in the impeller.. COOL!
>
> Cleaning up was getting fun.. interesting experience, having less
> actual "suction" than the shop vac, but SO much volume.. amazing..
> Problem was, I couldn't reach much of the garage with the 8' dryer
> hose, so I put a 12' 1 1/2" shop vac hose on it, with a redneck
> reducer.. (smashed the metal dryer hose down around it and duct taped
> the sucker)
> Not as much cleaning action as the shop vac, but at least the cyclone
> is helping... OH! I should check the cyclone... yep.. looks like as
> soon as I went down to the skinny hose, the suction from the DC
> collapsed the trash can... it was laying down real dead looking and
> almost FLAT!
>
> This learning stuff is fun... when the hoses and gates get here, I
> might just suck my neighbors house off the foundation for the hell of
> it..
>
> Thanks for letting me rant.. I feel MUCH better now...
> I think I'll go buy a metal garbage can..
>
>
mac davis wrote:
> I was looking at those on Ebay, but I think I'm too cheap for that, at
> least in the present shop..
> I'm using about 2/3 of a 2 car garage and have the power tools pretty
> close together so whatever the hose can't reach easily is a foot or 2
> roll for the DC..
> I have it plugged into a switched outlet between the router table and
> the RAS, so I don't see it as a problem..
>
> Hopefully, the next house will have either a larger building or room
> to build one, and everything changes.. lol
> We're looking at a nice place now on 3/4 of an acre... not huge, but
> bigger than the 100 x 75' lot we have now.. it's going to be the last
> house that I ever buy, so it has to have RV parking and a shop!
Seems as if there should be some way to wire a double throw
switch and a single outlet so that the remote for the garage door
can be used to turn a dust collector on and off...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa
mac davis <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
<snip>
>
> Thanks for letting me rant.. I feel MUCH better now...
> I think I'll go buy a metal garbage can..
>
The Rubbermaid Commercial (branded BRUTE) plastic one is probably stronger
and quieter. My local, full-service, independent hardware store carries
them in stock.
It's also where I risked the safety of my family, home and neighborhood by
purchasing the non-conductive PVC pipe, with which I plumbed my system. ;-)
Patriarch,
and yes, this learning stuff isn't just for young 'uns.
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:34:21 GMT, patriarch
<<patriarch>[email protected]> wrote:
>mac davis <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
><snip>
>>
>> Thanks for letting me rant.. I feel MUCH better now...
>> I think I'll go buy a metal garbage can..
>>
>The Rubbermaid Commercial (branded BRUTE) plastic one is probably stronger
>and quieter. My local, full-service, independent hardware store carries
>them in stock.
>
>It's also where I risked the safety of my family, home and neighborhood by
>purchasing the non-conductive PVC pipe, with which I plumbed my system. ;-)
>
>Patriarch,
>
>and yes, this learning stuff isn't just for young 'uns.
I'll have to check.. I think it IS a "brute"..
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:24:49 -0600, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:
>mac davis wrote:
>
>> I was looking at those on Ebay, but I think I'm too cheap for that, at
>> least in the present shop..
>> I'm using about 2/3 of a 2 car garage and have the power tools pretty
>> close together so whatever the hose can't reach easily is a foot or 2
>> roll for the DC..
>> I have it plugged into a switched outlet between the router table and
>> the RAS, so I don't see it as a problem..
>>
>> Hopefully, the next house will have either a larger building or room
>> to build one, and everything changes.. lol
>> We're looking at a nice place now on 3/4 of an acre... not huge, but
>> bigger than the 100 x 75' lot we have now.. it's going to be the last
>> house that I ever buy, so it has to have RV parking and a shop!
>
>Seems as if there should be some way to wire a double throw
>switch and a single outlet so that the remote for the garage door
>can be used to turn a dust collector on and off...
it would be nice to have it programmed onto the remote for the tv &
stereo.. lol
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:03:02 -0500, loutent <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi Mac,
>
>Glad that you are enjoying your new toy. After a while, when you get
>all your gates & tubes set up and actually start using it, check out
>the remote control ("Lone Ranger" is the one I have) - this gives you
>another degree of improvement/satisfction.
>
>Lou
>
I was looking at those on Ebay, but I think I'm too cheap for that, at
least in the present shop..
I'm using about 2/3 of a 2 car garage and have the power tools pretty
close together so whatever the hose can't reach easily is a foot or 2
roll for the DC..
I have it plugged into a switched outlet between the router table and
the RAS, so I don't see it as a problem..
Hopefully, the next house will have either a larger building or room
to build one, and everything changes.. lol
We're looking at a nice place now on 3/4 of an acre... not huge, but
bigger than the 100 x 75' lot we have now.. it's going to be the last
house that I ever buy, so it has to have RV parking and a shop!