Jj

"JonH"

27/11/2005 4:48 PM

Yellow Glue and 30 Degree Shop

I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

Thanks in advance,
Jon in American Fork


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Chris Friesen

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

28/11/2005 9:29 AM

JonH wrote:
> But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
> the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
> So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
> stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?

One thing to be careful about...most PVA glues are only rated for a
certain number of freeze/thaw cycles in the bottle. After that, they
can go bad.

Chris

JJ

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

28/11/2005 3:38 AM

Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 4:48pm (EST-2) [email protected] (JonH) doth put
out:
I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the
cold side?

Then why ask?

Yes.

If you had read the label on the back of the bottle, along with
other good information, including a 1-800 number you can call, it
clearly states: "Do not use when temperature, glue or materials, are
below 55=BAF."

Gosh, this group is really getting boring again.



JOAT
A rolling stone gathers no moss...unless it's a hobby he does on the
weekends.

c

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

28/11/2005 2:10 AM

Speaking from experience. Last winter, I glued up a large panel in
my 'garage' shop with minimal heat. I came back a few hrs later (my
feet were cold) and the glue mostly froze, although it did bite enough
for me bring the assy indoors (livingroom) for knock down and
regluing. It came apart too easy, meaning the glue froze long before
it could set. An indicator of freezing glue is instead of turning
clear, it 'dries' white. Oh yeah, It was 32C below .

Pete



On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:48:55 -0700, "JonH" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
>trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
>side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
>Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are in
>the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the way ).
>So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
>stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jon in American Fork
>
>

Jj

"JonH"

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

29/11/2005 8:40 AM

Thanks guys, for making up for my laziness and not reading the label. I have
since moved my project indoors and plan on enlisting the aid of the dining
room table after everything warms up.

Jon


<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Speaking from experience. Last winter, I glued up a large panel in
> my 'garage' shop with minimal heat. I came back a few hrs later (my
> feet were cold) and the glue mostly froze, although it did bite enough
> for me bring the assy indoors (livingroom) for knock down and
> regluing. It came apart too easy, meaning the glue froze long before
> it could set. An indicator of freezing glue is instead of turning
> clear, it 'dries' white. Oh yeah, It was 32C below .
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:48:55 -0700, "JonH" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
>>trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the
>>cold
>>side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living
>>in
>>Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are
>>in
>>the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the
>>way ).
>>So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I glue my
>>stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Jon in American Fork
>>
>>
>

Tt

"Tyke"

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

27/11/2005 7:06 PM

I thought I read somewhere on the directions that application temperature
had to be above 50 F. I just went to www.titebond.com where they state
application temperature should be above 55 F.

I do not think the resulting bond will be as strong as desired if the joint
is subjected to freezing before the glue has set.

Dave Paine.
"JonH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I think that I know this answer, but I'll ask anyway. Am I asking for
>trouble trying to use my Titebond II when the temps are getting on the cold
>side? For me "cold" is actually anything below 70 degrees, after living in
>Hawaii for 5 years. But around here ( American Fork, Utah ) the temps are
>in the mid 20s at night and today it barely got past 32 deg ( F, by the
>way ). So will my glue just freeze and never "do it's thing?" or can I
>glue my stuff, be patient and wait a day or two?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jon in American Fork
>

CS

"C & S"

in reply to "JonH" on 27/11/2005 4:48 PM

28/11/2005 5:47 AM

If you had read the label on the back of the bottle, along with
other good information, including a 1-800 number you can call, it
clearly states: "Do not use when temperature, glue or materials, are
below 55ºF."

That is the chalk point... when you see it you'll kno wwhy they call it
that.

BTW for TB-I (classic titebond) it's 50 for TB - III it's 47.


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