[email protected] writes:
>Just FYI: It was on CNN tonight. The story is true - he's
>recovering in Hospital. They even showed the x-rays. CNN thought it
>was kind of a strange event "suicide", and the hospital is quoted as
>saying "no". This is the second time in the past year, that someone
>has come into their hospital with a nail embeded in their head and not
>knowing it. Somehow they've ruled out "suicide" as the motive.
The newscast I saw, Saturday or Sunday, didn't even imply it was a suicide
attempt and apparently went into more detail as to how it happened than
what has been relayed here. It sounds to me like CNN picked it up
elsewhere and didn't bother to get the facts for themselves. That wouldn't
a unique incident. The way it was shown on the cast I saw sounded logical
with the nailgun backfiring. As I recall, they said it hit his jaw which
is why he didn't realize there was a nail but thought the pain was because
of being hit with the nailgun; after several days, he went in to get it
checked which is when it was found what happened. Though I wouldn't say
they didn't mention a dentist, I don't recall that but that he went to the
doctor. Perhaps someone took liberties with the story to make it sound
"better." I'll tell you for certain, I find this much more believable
than women going into labor with a full-term pregnancy and claiming they
didn't know they were pregnant!
This man would not be the first person who did not know he was carrying
metal around in his body from such a freak accident until days, sometimes
even years, after the fact.
Fact is stranger than fiction, no question about that. These things
really do happen, tragically.
On the lighter side, maybe he's related to Tim Taylor.
Glenna
"Old Nick"
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
> ......and in reply I say!:
> >I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've
> >not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But,
> >every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof
> >of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act.
> >Hanging upside down with mouth open?
> Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun....
His story doesn't wash. I think he was biting his nails
and is too embarrassed to admit it.
Glenna Rose wrote:
> they didn't mention a dentist, I don't recall that but that he went to the
> doctor. Perhaps someone took liberties with the story to make it sound
> "better." I'll tell you for certain, I find this much more believable
I saw it on my local BFE TV station too. They said it was a dentist.
Showed an interview with the guy with his head stitched up. (Caught a
glimpse of the idiot light at Mom's house.)
> than women going into labor with a full-term pregnancy and claiming they
> didn't know they were pregnant!
I know someone this happened to for real. She was extremely fat. She had
twins, and never had a clue she was pregnant until she went to the ER with
severe abdominal pain that she thought was digestion-related.
> On the lighter side, maybe he's related to Tim Taylor.
He's self employed, and doesn't have any insurance. If an open gallbladder
deal costs $50,000 I shudder to think what that kind of thing is going to
set him back. Probably nothing. I think I'd be finding a bankruptcy
attorney in his shoes.
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[email protected] (Glenna Rose) wrote:
> The way it was shown on the cast I saw sounded logical
> with the nailgun backfiring. As I recall, they said it hit his jaw
> which is why he didn't realize there was a nail but thought the pain
> was because of being hit with the nailgun;
This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does
this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or
what?
I know there are ways to put a nail in yourself but if the nailgun can just
slip one by you, well .... ?
Andy Dingley wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:07:11 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does
> >this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or
> >what?
>
> I think it means that the body of the nailgun flew backwards and
> socked him in the mush. He knew he'd been hit by it, just didn't
> realise it had also fired a nail.
I've not heard enough fact to have a clue as to what <actually>
happened...the statement he made in the hospital that I saw wasn't even
decipherable as he was obviously still coming out from under sedation.
What I <think> I heard the news commentator say was that he knew one
nail had fired, but wasn't aware of the second one that got him. (And
implies that one reason he didn't realize he'd been hit was that he saw
one nail go flying so had no reason to think a second was in him. But
that's my interpretation of what I think was said.) As near as I can
tell, the second could (and based on the penetration in the x-ray almost
had to) have been a richocet or at least fired while the gun was a fair
distance from him or it would have pentrated much farther--those suckers
are flying pretty fast when they leave the muzzle. So, my guess is, the
first one caused the kick back which caused an inadvertent second to be
fired which richoceted and got him. May have been a failure of the trip
mechanism, but that has happened to me on the rare occasion...
Andy Dingley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:07:11 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does
>>this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or
>>what?
>
> I think it means that the body of the nailgun flew backwards and
> socked him in the mush. He knew he'd been hit by it, just didn't
> realise it had also fired a nail.
I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've
not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But,
every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof
of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act.
Hanging upside down with mouth open?
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does
> this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or
> what?
I assumed it meant that the gun appeared to fire normally, but he didn't see
a nail emerge, so he just figured it was a faulty discharge. I can't
envision a nail coming out backwards, at least not on my nailgun. Shoot
forwards and ricochet, yes, but that's about it.
"Backfire" , like "it just went off" is reporter speak meaning "we really
have no idea what we are talking about".
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > This is the second or third time I've seen 'backfiring' mentioned. Does
> > this mean the nail fired out of other than the head of the nailgun, or
> > what?
>
> I assumed it meant that the gun appeared to fire normally, but he didn't
see
> a nail emerge, so he just figured it was a faulty discharge. I can't
> envision a nail coming out backwards, at least not on my nailgun. Shoot
> forwards and ricochet, yes, but that's about it.
>
>
"Fletis Humplebacker" <!> wrote:
>
> "Old Nick"
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser
>> <[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
>> ......and in reply I say!:
>
>> >I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully
>> >I've not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might
>> >happen. But, every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3"
>> >nail through the roof of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up
>> >with a contortionist's act. Hanging upside down with mouth open?
>
>
>> Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun....
>
>
> His story doesn't wash. I think he was biting his nails
> and is too embarrassed to admit it.
LOL!
>
>
>
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:46:07 -0800, [email protected] (Glenna Rose)
wrote:
>[email protected] writes:
>>Just FYI: It was on CNN tonight. The story is true - he's
>>recovering in Hospital. They even showed the x-rays. CNN thought it
>>was kind of a strange event "suicide", and the hospital is quoted as
>>saying "no". This is the second time in the past year, that someone
>>has come into their hospital with a nail embeded in their head and not
>>knowing it. Somehow they've ruled out "suicide" as the motive.
>
>The newscast I saw, Saturday or Sunday, didn't even imply it was a suicide
>attempt and apparently went into more detail as to how it happened than
>what has been relayed here. It sounds to me like CNN picked it up
>elsewhere and didn't bother to get the facts for themselves. That wouldn't
>a unique incident. The way it was shown on the cast I saw sounded logical
>with the nailgun backfiring. As I recall, they said it hit his jaw which
>is why he didn't realize there was a nail but thought the pain was because
>of being hit with the nailgun; after several days, he went in to get it
>checked which is when it was found what happened. Though I wouldn't say
>they didn't mention a dentist, I don't recall that but that he went to the
>doctor. Perhaps someone took liberties with the story to make it sound
>"better." I'll tell you for certain, I find this much more believable
>than women going into labor with a full-term pregnancy and claiming they
>didn't know they were pregnant!
>
>This man would not be the first person who did not know he was carrying
>metal around in his body from such a freak accident until days, sometimes
>even years, after the fact.
>
>Fact is stranger than fiction, no question about that. These things
>really do happen, tragically.
>
>On the lighter side, maybe he's related to Tim Taylor.
>
>Glenna
Hi Glenna,
I agree. I didn't hear anything about a dentist either. From what
I saw on the x-ray that is one lucky boy. I guess this is one of
those things, you just have to see to believe.
Pat
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:45:53 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>He's self employed, and doesn't have any insurance. If an open gallbladder
>deal costs $50,000 I shudder to think what that kind of thing is going to
>set him back.
Talkshow career. He's got 15 minutes - best get on with them.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:37:41 GMT, Lobby Dosser
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
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>I think I understand the nailgun hitting him in the face. Thankfully I've
>not had that happen to me - yet - but I can see how it might happen. But,
>every time I try to envision a means of putting a 3" nail through the roof
>of a mouth - even with a ricochet - I come up with a contortionist's act.
>Hanging upside down with mouth open?
Expecially while being hit in the mouth by _back_ of the gun....