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[email protected] (Kurt Greiner)

02/08/2004 3:30 AM

Best commercial woodworking bench?

Hello Everyone,

Stipulating that it is almost always better to build your own, what is the best
commerically available woodworking bench on the market today? Anything that is
well made and stable?

Thanks in advance

Kurt

Kurt Greiner

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"Brian"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

01/08/2004 10:19 PM

You're right. Home-built benches can be made "perfect" according to your
needs. But, I saw this one at Woodcraft over the weekend, and wouldn't
complain if it were in my shop. Or let me rephrase that... I wouldn't
complain about having enough room in my shop for it. ;-)

http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4420&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1027%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CWorkbenches%20%26%20Hardware&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2078%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CWorkbenches&Gift=False&mscssid=038B09D52CE4E409EA273A97A08866FC

"Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Stipulating that it is almost always better to build your own, what is the
best
> commerically available woodworking bench on the market today? Anything
that is
> well made and stable?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kurt
>
> Kurt Greiner
>
> SeaPhoto Maritime Photography ...delete "net" to reply
> http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal
>
> Learn about large scale r/c model warships-
> Warship Models Underway http://www.warshipmodelsunderway.com

cb

charlie b

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

02/08/2004 1:28 AM

> You're right. Home-built benches can be made "perfect" according to your
> needs. But, I saw this one at Woodcraft over the weekend, and wouldn't
> complain if it were in my shop. Or let me rephrase that... I wouldn't
> complain about having enough room in my shop for it. ;-)
>
> http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4420&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1027%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CWorkbenches%20%26%20Hardware&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2078%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CWorkbenches&Gift=False&mscssid=038B09D52CE4E409EA273A97A08866FC
>
> "Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message

You planning to make entry doors or anything that requires the
93" length? That's quite a chunk of floor space to use up, to
say nothing of the chunk of change they want for it. $2K
is a pretty hefty price. Hell, $1300 for just the bench
without the cabinets is pretty steep. You can get a maple
top for under $300, Veritas Twin Screw for $160, a good
face vise for another $100+ and stock for the legs and
stretchers for less than another $100. That's less than
half the price of this bench - without the cabinets.

The tail vise is very traditional but limits you to one row of
dogholes along the front edge. A wide end vise, in conjunction
with two more rows of round dogholes will allow you to
clamp panels and even curved parts. A Veritas Twin Screw
on the end will give you that option PLUS do what the tail
vise does.

Do a google search on Ulma - they make some really nice
benches as does Deifenbach (sp?).

But you really should go through Scott Landis's workbench
book, along with the one by Sam Allen to see the different
types of benches and the types of woodworking each is
designed specifically to do.

Seriously consider making your own. You'll learn a great
deal and have a bench that'll do what you want it to do.

Here's mine. Could have built it in four weekends once
I worked out the plans. That's not including the time
spent on the integral through drawers of course.

The "plans"

http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/MT/CBbench2.html

The finished bench
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/BenchFinishing/CBbench34.html

The index page for the bench, start to finish
http://home.comcast.net/~charliebcz/BenchFinishing/CBbench0.html

charlie b

Wx

"Woodcrafter"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

02/08/2004 5:04 PM

> You're right. Home-built benches can be made "perfect" according to your
> needs. But, I saw this one at Woodcraft over the weekend, and wouldn't
> complain if it were in my shop. Or let me rephrase that... I wouldn't
> complain about having enough room in my shop for it. ;-)
>
>
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4420&gift
=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp
%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1027%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CWorkbenches%20%26%20Hardware
&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2078%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CWorkbenches&Gif
t=False&mscssid=038B09D52CE4E409EA273A97A08866FC
>

Yikes, I wouldn't be complaining if I had the money to buy that bench, let
alone having the bench itself! :-)

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"simple mark"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

03/08/2004 4:14 PM

That bench was on my wish list for some time. I faced the same decision a
while back and finally decided to build my own. I could easily afford to
buy this bench but after looking at it I didn't like it as well as others
I'd seen. I finally build one similar to one that Fine Woodworking had a
while ago, only bigger and heavier. It cost less about half, including
better vices and besides making my brothers give me dirty looks when it came
time to move it is really nice.
I only had to yell am my girfirend a couple of time for starting to put
things on it, explaining I needed to build another one to actually work on.

m

"Brian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You're right. Home-built benches can be made "perfect" according to your
> needs. But, I saw this one at Woodcraft over the weekend, and wouldn't
> complain if it were in my shop. Or let me rephrase that... I wouldn't
> complain about having enough room in my shop for it. ;-)
>
>
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4420&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1027%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CWorkbenches%20%26%20Hardware&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2078%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CWorkbenches&Gift=False&mscssid=038B09D52CE4E409EA273A97A08866FC
>
> "Kurt Greiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Stipulating that it is almost always better to build your own, what is
the
> best
> > commerically available woodworking bench on the market today? Anything
> that is
> > well made and stable?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > Kurt Greiner
> >
> > SeaPhoto Maritime Photography ...delete "net" to reply
> > http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal
> >
> > Learn about large scale r/c model warships-
> > Warship Models Underway http://www.warshipmodelsunderway.com
>
>

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

02/08/2004 5:12 AM


>
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=4420&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D10000%26Tree%3D%2CDepartments&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D1027%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CWorkbenches%20%26%20Hardware&2=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D2078%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D1%2CWorkbenches&Gift=False&mscssid=038B09D52CE4E409EA273A97A08866FC

....equals: http://tinyurl.com/6cw5p (I love it!)

Alex

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

02/08/2004 5:16 AM


> Hello Everyone,
> Stipulating that it is almost always better to build your own, what is the best
> commerically available woodworking bench on the market today? Anything that is
> well made and stable?

There's also the Hoffman and Hammer benches: http://tinyurl.com/6amvb at Highland Hardware...
Alex

sK

[email protected] (Kurt Greiner)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 02/08/2004 5:16 AM

05/08/2004 4:38 AM

Thanks all for the suggestions so far. I am looking at the Veritas bench, the
one that gives the choice of wooden or iron legs. Anyone have those?

I will be using the bench for general woodworking, and to build the rest of my
shop. Between all the cabinets and stands that I will be making, I wanted to
save some time, and give myself a treat that would last for decades.

Thanks again

Kurt

Kurt Greiner

SeaPhoto Maritime Photography ...delete "net" to reply
http://www.warshipphotos.com - now taking online payments via Paypal

Learn about large scale r/c model warships-
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Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 02/08/2004 5:16 AM

04/08/2004 10:08 PM


> Thanks all for the suggestions so far. I am looking at the Veritas bench, the
> one that gives the choice of wooden or iron legs. Anyone have those?
> I will be using the bench for general woodworking, and to build the rest of my
> shop. Between all the cabinets and stands that I will be making, I wanted to
> save some time, and give myself a treat that would last for decades.


Yeah? You really like that rediculous ditch-slash-tool corral running down
the middle? I personaly dislik it very much. Or... maybe someone here can
tell me why it is desirable?

Alex

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 04/08/2004 10:08 PM

05/08/2004 8:51 AM

AArDvarK asks:

>
>Yeah? You really like that rediculous ditch-slash-tool corral running down
>the middle? I personaly dislik it very much. Or... maybe someone here can
>tell me why it is desirable?

For those who use hand tools, it keeps a variety of tools right at hand,
without much danger of them getting knocked onto the floor.

It's also a fantastic sawdust collector.

Charlie Self
"Inanimate objects are classified scientifically into three major categories -
those that don't work, those that break down and those that get lost." Russell
Baker

Aa

"AArDvarK"

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 04/08/2004 10:08 PM

05/08/2004 3:32 AM


> For those who use hand tools, it keeps a variety of tools right at hand,
> without much danger of them getting knocked onto the floor.
> It's also a fantastic sawdust collector.

Do you have this type of traditional bench? I want one myself but as far as
that central corral, I much prefer that it be at the back of the bench, like this:
http://www.woodworkingathome.com/ShopTour/woodworking_workbench.htm

Alex

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 05/08/2004 3:32 AM

05/08/2004 10:41 AM

AArDvarK asks:

>> For those who use hand tools, it keeps a variety of tools right at hand,
>> without much danger of them getting knocked onto the floor.
>> It's also a fantastic sawdust collector.
>
>Do you have this type of traditional bench? I want one myself but as far as
>that central corral, I much prefer that it be at the back of the bench, like
>this:
>http://www.woodworkingathome.com/ShopTour/woodworking_workbench.htm

Nope. I don't like the tool corrals, as you called them. I prefer a flat top,
dog holes being the only breaks. I'm currently working on a 16 year old 8' long
bench with a battered double plywood top. Very battered. I like to be able to
work from both sides without having to reach across a bunch of tools, hand or
otherwise. My bench also serves as an assembly table, and, in a pinch, a
finishing stand, so fancy is a waste of energy too.

I don't do a whole lot of handtool work. Some and more as I get older (that
seems to be a standard progression in this field, though you'd think going to
more power tool work would seem more sensible as you age, get less agile,
weaker, etc. Maybe dodging kickbacks gets tiresome after 60).

Too, I put a wooden floor in my shop. Knock a tool off the bench or drop it and
odds are great it's going to be fine or very close to fine when it hits the
floor. Many of my previous shops had concrete floors. They demand, generally, a
less clumsy woodworker than I, and one with feet that don't hurt at the start
of the session, cause they're going to at the end. When you loose a top grade
mortising chisel and a 60 tooth 10" high quality carbide tipped saw blade in
one day, the future shop with a wood floor begins to look better.

Charlie Self
"Inanimate objects are classified scientifically into three major categories -
those that don't work, those that break down and those that get lost." Russell
Baker

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "AArDvarK" on 04/08/2004 10:08 PM

05/08/2004 9:05 AM

[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> AArDvarK asks:
>
>>
>>Yeah? You really like that rediculous ditch-slash-tool corral running
>>down the middle? I personaly dislik it very much. Or... maybe someone
>>here can tell me why it is desirable?
>
> For those who use hand tools, it keeps a variety of tools right at
> hand, without much danger of them getting knocked onto the floor.
>
> It's also a fantastic sawdust collector.

If you're really using those hand tools, most of what it's collecting
should be whisper thin shavings. :o)

>
> Charlie Self
> "Inanimate objects are classified scientifically into three major
> categories - those that don't work, those that break down and those
> that get lost." Russell Baker
>

b

in reply to [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) on 02/08/2004 3:30 AM

01/08/2004 8:48 PM

On 02 Aug 2004 03:30:35 GMT, [email protected] (Kurt Greiner) wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>Stipulating that it is almost always better to build your own, what is the best
>commerically available woodworking bench on the market today? Anything that is
>well made and stable?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Kurt



for what kind of work?


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