DS

"Dick Snyder"

26/01/2005 2:06 PM

Tricky cut - how would you make it?

I am making a dresser which will be the mate to one I already own. Each
drawer has mitered oak trim on the front with the front face of each piece
of trim being beveled. Before I do the miters I have to make a cut on the
face of each piece of the drawer trim to get the bevel. I am posting a
picture on abpw if you want to see what I am talking about.

To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2" wide
piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw. I will be making the cut
into the 2" face. I am really worried about kickback or other problems on
this cut. If I keep a feather board on the table saw pushing the board up
against the fence and another featherboard on the fence pushing the board
down on the table, do you think that will work? What do you think about
this cut? What can I do to maximize my safety as well as protect the wood
from being screwed up?

I had thought about doing this with a panel raising bit on my router table
but I don't own such a bit and I'm not sure I would find one that is beveled
at 18 degrees though I have not looked.

TIA

Dick Snyder


This topic has 9 replies

b

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

26/01/2005 11:36 AM

To be safe, take a full width board, prepare the edge, and do the bevel
cut, then cut off the two inch section, then repeat for the balance of
the trim pieces you need. This way you can use the 6" or so of board
width to apply downward pressure when you make the bevel cut. In other
words, don't cut the stock to 2" width before you do the bevel. If you
screw up the bevel cut, then just cut off the mistake and bevel
another. Use featherboards and you'll do fine.

Mutt

Fj

"FriscoSoxFan"

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

26/01/2005 1:49 PM

featherboards and anti-kickback pawls.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

27/01/2005 12:37 PM

Dick Snyder wrote:

> To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2" wide
> piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw. I will be making the cut
> into the 2" face. I am really worried about kickback or other problems on
> this cut. If I keep a feather board on the table saw pushing the board up
> against the fence and another featherboard on the fence pushing the board
> down on the table, do you think that will work? What do you think about
> this cut? What can I do to maximize my safety as well as protect the wood
> from being screwed up?

Use a splitter, one of these,
<http://www.bburke.com/wood/images/narrowstripripper2.jpg> (Or
pushblocks that have a surface you don't care about), and possibly a
helper if the stock is very long.

Set the blade slightly higher than the wood, the pushblocks can run
right over the blade.

I greatly prefer this method over featherboards.

Barry

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

26/01/2005 7:37 PM

I don't forsee any problems cutting that with you table saw.
Use your featherboards if you like and git r done
As an option, you can always make an angled jig and run the boards through
your planer. --dave



"Dick Snyder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am making a dresser which will be the mate to one I already own. Each
>drawer has mitered oak trim on the front with the front face of each piece
>of trim being beveled. Before I do the miters I have to make a cut on the
>face of each piece of the drawer trim to get the bevel. I am posting a
>picture on abpw if you want to see what I am talking about.
>
> To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2"
> wide piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw. I will be making
> the cut into the 2" face. I am really worried about kickback or other
> problems on this cut. If I keep a feather board on the table saw pushing
> the board up against the fence and another featherboard on the fence
> pushing the board down on the table, do you think that will work? What
> do you think about this cut? What can I do to maximize my safety as well
> as protect the wood from being screwed up?
>
> I had thought about doing this with a panel raising bit on my router table
> but I don't own such a bit and I'm not sure I would find one that is
> beveled at 18 degrees though I have not looked.
>
> TIA
>
> Dick Snyder
>

DS

"Dick Snyder"

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

26/01/2005 2:52 PM

Unfortunately I do not own a jointer so I have already had the boards trued
up at a local milling place including the 2" width. If there is a next time
I will know better.


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> To be safe, take a full width board, prepare the edge, and do the bevel
> cut, then cut off the two inch section, then repeat for the balance of
> the trim pieces you need. This way you can use the 6" or so of board
> width to apply downward pressure when you make the bevel cut. In other
> words, don't cut the stock to 2" width before you do the bevel. If you
> screw up the bevel cut, then just cut off the mistake and bevel
> another. Use featherboards and you'll do fine.
>
> Mutt
>

DS

"Dick Snyder"

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

26/01/2005 3:43 PM

Based on your suggestions and my lack of a really good plane I went with the
two featherboards with the top one being solidly attached to an auxillary
fence 8" high (I bolted it into holes on my main fence which is only a
couple of inches high.

Thanks for taking the time to give me your suggestions.

Dick Snyder


"Dick Snyder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am making a dresser which will be the mate to one I already own. Each
>drawer has mitered oak trim on the front with the front face of each piece
>of trim being beveled. Before I do the miters I have to make a cut on the
>face of each piece of the drawer trim to get the bevel. I am posting a
>picture on abpw if you want to see what I am talking about.
>
> To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2"
> wide piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw. I will be making
> the cut into the 2" face. I am really worried about kickback or other
> problems on this cut. If I keep a feather board on the table saw pushing
> the board up against the fence and another featherboard on the fence
> pushing the board down on the table, do you think that will work? What
> do you think about this cut? What can I do to maximize my safety as well
> as protect the wood from being screwed up?
>
> I had thought about doing this with a panel raising bit on my router table
> but I don't own such a bit and I'm not sure I would find one that is
> beveled at 18 degrees though I have not looked.
>
> TIA
>
> Dick Snyder
>

Gw

Guess who

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

27/01/2005 5:25 PM

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:59:30 -0500, "Dick Snyder"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Any chance of also using double-sided carpet tape to tack the item
down to a base plate?

>Barry, I actually made one of those based on your reply to a posted question
>I had about cutting thin strips and it works great plus it gives me
>something to do with old mouse pads. It won't work too well in this case as
>I have to make sloped cuts in stock 2" high and 3/4" wide. The stock has to
>be pushed through on the 3/4" edge so there is too much danger of the 2"
>face moving away from the fence and there is only a 3/4" wide surface for me
>to push down on. I did go with the featherboard approach with an 8" high
>auxillary fence bolted to my main fence so I could really clamp down the
>featherboard that pushes down on the stock.
>
>Dick
>
>
>"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Dick Snyder wrote:
>>
>>> To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2"
>>> wide piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw.


>> Set the blade slightly higher than the wood, the pushblocks can run right
>> over the blade.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

28/01/2005 12:36 PM

Dick Snyder wrote:
> Barry, I actually made one of those based on your reply to a posted question
> I had about cutting thin strips and it works great plus it gives me
> something to do with old mouse pads. It won't work too well in this case as
> I have to make sloped cuts in stock 2" high and 3/4" wide. The stock has to
> be pushed through on the 3/4" edge so there is too much danger of the 2"
> face moving away from the fence and there is only a 3/4" wide surface for me
> to push down on.

I missed the part about the 3/4" edge down. <G>

Barry

DS

"Dick Snyder"

in reply to "Dick Snyder" on 26/01/2005 2:06 PM

27/01/2005 3:59 PM

Barry, I actually made one of those based on your reply to a posted question
I had about cutting thin strips and it works great plus it gives me
something to do with old mouse pads. It won't work too well in this case as
I have to make sloped cuts in stock 2" high and 3/4" wide. The stock has to
be pushed through on the 3/4" edge so there is too much danger of the 2"
face moving away from the fence and there is only a 3/4" wide surface for me
to push down on. I did go with the featherboard approach with an 8" high
auxillary fence bolted to my main fence so I could really clamp down the
featherboard that pushes down on the stock.

Dick


"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dick Snyder wrote:
>
>> To make this bevel cut (18 degrees) on my table saw I need to run a 2"
>> wide piece of 3/4 oak down the length of my table saw. I will be making
>> the cut into the 2" face. I am really worried about kickback or other
>> problems on this cut. If I keep a feather board on the table saw pushing
>> the board up against the fence and another featherboard on the fence
>> pushing the board down on the table, do you think that will work? What
>> do you think about this cut? What can I do to maximize my safety as well
>> as protect the wood from being screwed up?
>
> Use a splitter, one of these,
> <http://www.bburke.com/wood/images/narrowstripripper2.jpg> (Or pushblocks
> that have a surface you don't care about), and possibly a helper if the
> stock is very long.
>
> Set the blade slightly higher than the wood, the pushblocks can run right
> over the blade.
>
> I greatly prefer this method over featherboards.
>
> Barry


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