On Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:13:02 AM UTC-7, Doug Miller wrote:
> 2956 looks like a bicycle chainwheel. The small hole between the Y and T is to bolt the
>
> chainwheel to the crank, and the axle of the crankset passes through the large hole in the
>
> center.
if the crank is a cast/forged item (an Ashtabula crank?) it's just a boss on the
casting, not a bolt, that goes through that hole, to drive the wheel (friction on
the center hole is NOT going to support the required torque).
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From: "Bluey69" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:30 AM
Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: What is it? Set 507
> On 22/08/2013 7:32 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> 2957 Star drills. Almost everyone will recognize these. Used to bash
>> holes in masonry. Is there some trick here?
Masonry and stone. Funny you should take umbrage with them I have tried a
few times to buy some because mine have all gone the way of the dinosaur.
The big box hardware stores don't seem to have them, and only the older
people working there even know what they are. Maybe in another generation
or two nobody will know what they are.
>>
>> On 8/22/2013 4:08 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>
>
> I second the star drills used in mining as well in the early days for
> boring blasting holes in the stope face.
>
Rob H. <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:
> Used to bash
>>holes in masonry. Is there some trick here?
>
Well... there IS a trick... to using them. One doesn't 'bash' holes in
masonry, if using them properly. One 'drills' holes. Neat, clean, and
with a minimum of spalling on the back-side, if penetrating.
You don't just hold 'em in place and whack with a hand-sledge. You
rotate them slowly while tapping (albiet with a heavy hammer and some
authority!).
Lloyd
lektric dan <[email protected]> wrote in news:11a74015-cc05-4c70-8916-
[email protected]:
> Is 2958 a bird call? Apply a little powdered rosin, put the two parts together, and twist.
>
2956 looks like a bicycle chainwheel. The small hole between the Y and T is to bolt the
chainwheel to the crank, and the axle of the crankset passes through the large hole in the
center.
2957 is clearly a set of star drills (chisels for drilling holes in concrete or rock).
"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> fired this volley in news:AdtRt.276112
[email protected]:
> The big box hardware stores don't seem to have them, and only the older
> people working there even know what they are.
You won't find them at the Home DESPOT, but you will at any good concrete
yard or full-fledged builder's supply.
Although there are easier ways to make MOST holes, there always comes a
time when a star drill is the best tool. It's most aggravating, though,
in a vertical 'down' hole. You'll need air or water if you drill that
direction.
Lloyd
On 22 Aug 2013 01:08:59 -0700, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
2956 - Bicycle chain wheel (front sprocket)
2957 -- Mason's star drills (I still use these things)
--
Ed Huntress
On 22/08/2013 7:32 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2957 Star drills. Almost everyone will recognize these. Used to bash
> holes in masonry. Is there some trick here?
>
> On 8/22/2013 4:08 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
I second the star drills used in mining as well in the early days for
boring blasting holes in the stope face.
On 22/08/2013 4:08 PM, Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
2956 Front sprocket from a Dayton bicycle
<https://www.google.com/search?q=dayton+cycles&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=luMVUsXmH8egigejmoC4Bg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1347&bih=564#fp=1a177c9ac4b38f9c&q=dayton+sprocket&tbm=isch>
No ideas on any of the others
In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>2957 Star drills. Almost everyone will recognize these. Used to bash
>holes in masonry. Is there some trick here?
No trick, I had posted one years ago but someone just sent in these photos and I
decided to go ahead post them again.
In article <[email protected]>, Alexander Thesoso says...
>
>2956 Let me make a wild guess here. This is a chainwheel from a
>bicycle, made special by being from the Wright brother's shop.
Yes, it's a sprocket from a bicycle but I don't think it's related to the Wright
Brothers. I posted it because I hadn't seen one recently and thought it looked
interesting.
>2953: process of elimination: the handle is too close to the drive for it to be
anything but straight line type drive, so my guess it for turning square shank
drill bits
Nope, it doesn't use drill bits
>55: (guess) wedge for splitting stone with feathers? Or a handle for something?
You're correct that it's a handle for something.
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:00:41 -0700
"Bob La Londe" <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
>Masonry and stone. Funny you should take umbrage with them I have tried a
>few times to buy some because mine have all gone the way of the dinosaur.
>The big box hardware stores don't seem to have them, and only the older
>people working there even know what they are. Maybe in another generation
>or two nobody will know what they are.
I've had good luck finding new "antique tools" through Amazon and
affiliates, decent prices too. See:
http://www.amazon.com/Dasco-3635-12-Inch-2-Inch-Drilling/dp/B009750YEQ/
or for different sizes:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_89_1?rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Astar+chisel%2Cp_89%3ADasco&keywords=star+chisel&ie=UTF8
There just doesn't seem to be enough volume on stuff like this for
brick and mortar stores to consider stocking them. Try finding a new
Brush Scythe, Cross-cut Saw... locally, at any price...
--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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Rob H. wrote:
> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
#2954: Notice that each of the numbers 1-6 appears equally often.
Since this (proposed) die has 12 sides, one side would land up.
I offer the "guess" that it simulates the rolling of 3 dice, such as
would be used in the gambling game "Chuck-A-Luck"--popular at carnival's
and casino's. Basically, in that game, one bets a chip on a number 1-6,
and get a chip back for each time the number is rolled (among the 3
dice), and loses their chip if the number is not rolled. Seems fair
enough, huh? Itcan be shown thatit's not.
The fact that there are duplicate numbers on every outcome on this die,
gives the house a decided advantage in the game. When the outcome of
the dice consists of three different numbers, the game is "fair" (no
house advantage). Every outcome on this die gives the house the
advantage. This fact is not obvious (which is why it's a "sneaky" game).
So, my long-winded guess is that it'sa fancy die! : )
Bill
Rob H. wrote:
> No luck yet on the wooden piece with numbers,
Anyone else believe it might have been a die (I posted yesterday)?
> the rest of the answers have been
> posted here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/08/set-507.html#answers
>
> I finally figured out my html problem so the answer link should work better than
> in previous weeks.
>
>
> Rob
>
Bill wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> No luck yet on the wooden piece with numbers,
>
> Anyone else believe it might have been a die (I posted yesterday)?
>
Compare to some of the "tri-level" dice on this page:
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/putandtake.htm
I'm not suggesting that the wooden one was literally "thrown". Perhaps
it was spun in a container? I've already described the game for which
it is quite adaptable ("chuck-a-luck" or "bird cage").
>
>
>> the rest of the answers have been
>> posted here:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/08/set-507.html#answers
>>
>> I finally figured out my html problem so the answer link should work
>> better than
>> in previous weeks.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
Bill wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> #2954: Notice that each of the numbers 1-6 appears equally often.
>
> Since this (proposed) die has 12 sides, one side would land up.
>
> I offer the "guess" that it simulates the rolling of 3 dice, such as
> would be used in the gambling game "Chuck-A-Luck"--popular at
> carnival's and casino's. Basically, in that game, one bets a chip on
> a number 1-6, and get a chip back for each time the number is rolled
> (among the 3 dice), and loses their chip if the number is not rolled.
> Seems fair enough, huh? Itcan be shown thatit's not.
>
> The fact that there are duplicate numbers on every outcome on this
> die, gives the house a decided advantage in the game. When the
> outcome of the dice consists of three different numbers, the game is
> "fair" (no house advantage). Every outcome on this die gives the house
> the advantage. This fact is not obvious (which is why it's a "sneaky"
> game).
>
> So, my long-winded guess is that it'sa fancy die! : )
>
> Bill
>
Here is a link to a similar die:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-RARE-UNUSUAL-GENUINE-CATTLE-BONE-12-SIDED-PUT-TAKE-DICE-SPINNER-3-/360653512634
Maybe the maker of the wooden one didn't want to pay $450?
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:00:41 -0700, "Bob La Londe" <[email protected]>
wrote:
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>From: "Bluey69" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:30 AM
>Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.woodworking
>Subject: Re: What is it? Set 507
>
>> On 22/08/2013 7:32 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>>> 2957 Star drills. Almost everyone will recognize these. Used to bash
>>> holes in masonry. Is there some trick here?
>
>Masonry and stone. Funny you should take umbrage with them I have tried a
>few times to buy some because mine have all gone the way of the dinosaur.
>The big box hardware stores don't seem to have them, and only the older
>people working there even know what they are. Maybe in another generation
>or two nobody will know what they are.
What..you want some star drills? Ive got a shit load of them
And I think Ive still got a Black and Decker Industrial Electric
Masonary Drill motor that uses star drills, unless it was in the van
when they cleaned it out.
Interested in them? Ill go look in the morning if you are.
Gunner
>
>
>
>
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2013 4:08 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>> I need some help with number 2954 in this week's set:
>>>>
>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> I second the star drills used in mining as well in the early days for
>> boring blasting holes in the stope face.
>>
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