I am planning to purchase Delta AP300 portable Dust Collector. This is 3/4
HP, unit 550 CFM,air flow.I will be using mainly for my Table saw.might be
for planner.
Anyone has experience with this unit ? Will this unit satisfy my needs ?
Currently I am using Shop-Vac. I am sure this unit will be more efficient.
Thanks
Before you buy anything, invest some time at Bill Pentz's dust-collection
website. You'll go into information overload if you're not careful, but
there is a lot of important information on that site. Bill nearly died from
the effects of wood dust and designed an exceptional cyclone system based on
solid science. At his invitation, I now manufacture cyclone kits based on his
design as well as matching blower housings. They are well received all over
North America. Bill's site is at
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
and the kit and blower info is at
http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm
A 10" table saw needs most of 1000 "real-world-in-your-shop" CFM to
get the fine dust out of your face, and only a high-enough-CFM cyclone
can really keep the air you breathe free of the fine flour-like dust
that is so dangerous to your long-term health (worse than tobacco smoke
ever thought of being and I don't smoke -- never have).
Some people think cyclones are expensive (they aren't cheap), but compared
to a new Kirby, Rainbow, or IEC household vacuum cleaner, a complete system
based on this kit and blower housing is cheap! And the CFM will blow you
away (well, not quite, but it does kick up a ruckus). And the reports I'm
getting back from people who have their kits up and running indicate that
it is QUIET! compared to the imported units they used before.
If you need more info, contact me privately.
Clarke
J wrote:
>
> I am planning to purchase Delta AP300 portable Dust Collector. This is 3/4
> HP, unit 550 CFM,air flow.I will be using mainly for my Table saw.might be
> for planner.
>
> Anyone has experience with this unit ? Will this unit satisfy my needs ?
> Currently I am using Shop-Vac. I am sure this unit will be more efficient.
>
> Thanks
I looked at this unit and though this was a little too small. But I didn't
have the money or the space for cyclone. So I droped and extra fifty
dollars and got the AP400 at Lowes. 1 hp 650 CFM's. I'm only using it with
one machine at a time. Just built a new miter sation with a downdraft hood.
hooked up the DC with about 6 feet of pipe and it works like a dream. Sucks
all the dust right down. I'm going to get my TS hooked up this weekend.
I also bought the AP100 Ambiant air filter/light. It really helps out
getting the rest of the dust in my small 15 x 12 shop.
"J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am planning to purchase Delta AP300 portable Dust Collector. This is 3/4
> HP, unit 550 CFM,air flow.I will be using mainly for my Table saw.might be
> for planner.
>
> Anyone has experience with this unit ? Will this unit satisfy my needs ?
> Currently I am using Shop-Vac. I am sure this unit will be more efficient.
>
> Thanks
>
>
The brother-in-law bought one and ended up taking it back for lack of power.
However I might point out that I feel he was stretching its limits somewhat.
He only had it hooked to his table saw and router table but the silly man
has the thing 25ft away! I thought this was way too much for the rated CFM
of this unit. He ended up finding a used cyclone unit and now he actually
has a better system in his weekend warrior hobbyshop than I do in my shop.
Lucky bastard!
Jim
"Clarke Echols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Before you buy anything, invest some time at Bill Pentz's dust-collection
> website. You'll go into information overload if you're not careful, but
> there is a lot of important information on that site. Bill nearly died
from
> the effects of wood dust and designed an exceptional cyclone system based
on
> solid science. At his invitation, I now manufacture cyclone kits based on
his
> design as well as matching blower housings. They are well received all
over
> North America. Bill's site is at
>
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
>
> and the kit and blower info is at
>
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm
>
> A 10" table saw needs most of 1000 "real-world-in-your-shop" CFM to
> get the fine dust out of your face, and only a high-enough-CFM cyclone
> can really keep the air you breathe free of the fine flour-like dust
> that is so dangerous to your long-term health (worse than tobacco smoke
> ever thought of being and I don't smoke -- never have).
>
> Some people think cyclones are expensive (they aren't cheap), but compared
> to a new Kirby, Rainbow, or IEC household vacuum cleaner, a complete
system
> based on this kit and blower housing is cheap! And the CFM will blow you
> away (well, not quite, but it does kick up a ruckus). And the reports I'm
> getting back from people who have their kits up and running indicate that
> it is QUIET! compared to the imported units they used before.
>
> If you need more info, contact me privately.
>
> Clarke
>
>
> J wrote:
> >
> > I am planning to purchase Delta AP300 portable Dust Collector. This is
3/4
> > HP, unit 550 CFM,air flow.I will be using mainly for my Table saw.might
be
> > for planner.
> >
> > Anyone has experience with this unit ? Will this unit satisfy my needs ?
> > Currently I am using Shop-Vac. I am sure this unit will be more
efficient.
> >
> > Thanks
Clarke Echols solicited...
> Before you buy anything, invest some time at Bill Pentz's dust-collection
> website. You'll go into information overload if you're not careful, but
> there is a lot of important information on that site. Bill nearly died from
> the effects of wood dust and designed an exceptional cyclone system based on
> solid science. At his invitation, I now manufacture cyclone kits based on his
> design as well as matching blower housings. They are well received all over
> North America. Bill's site is at
>
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
>
> and the kit and blower info is at
>
> http://cnets.net/~eclectic/woodworking/cyclone/ClarkesKits.cfm
>
> A 10" table saw needs most of 1000 "real-world-in-your-shop" CFM to
> get the fine dust out of your face, and only a high-enough-CFM cyclone
> can really keep the air you breathe free of the fine flour-like dust
> that is so dangerous to your long-term health (worse than tobacco smoke
> ever thought of being and I don't smoke -- never have).
>
> Some people think cyclones are expensive (they aren't cheap), but compared
> to a new Kirby, Rainbow, or IEC household vacuum cleaner, a complete system
> based on this kit and blower housing is cheap! And the CFM will blow you
> away (well, not quite, but it does kick up a ruckus). And the reports I'm
> getting back from people who have their kits up and running indicate that
> it is QUIET! compared to the imported units they used before.
>
> If you need more info, contact me privately.
>
> Clarke
>
>
>
Clarke
At some point I'd like to convert my system to a cyclone from the
traditional top and bottom bag design. Although I love my American
Fabric Filter 1 mic bags, they still require maintenance to keep them
"uncaked" and I believe I can use a cyclone and cartridge filter to
achieve even better collection of fine particles.
My question is, can I use the existing 2HP motor (12amp, 230v) to
power a cyclone similar to the one you build so I don't need a new
motor?
Joe
Ben wrote
Just built a new miter sation with a downdraft hood.
> hooked up the DC with about 6 feet of pipe and it works like a dream. Sucks
> all the dust right down.
Please elaborate. I have yet to connect my mitre saw to my DC system.
I have a stub run down from the overhead line but haven't gotten any
farther.
Joe
"James D Kountz"
> The brother-in-law bought one and ended up taking it back for lack of
power.
> However I might point out that I feel he was stretching its limits
somewhat.
> He only had it hooked to his table saw and router table but the silly man
> has the thing 25ft away!
Seems the short hose, portable concept is a strength of the AP300. Sure,
way underpowered for a large network of pipes, but it's not made for that.
I took mine and actually cut the 10 ft hose down to 6 or 7 feet for better
flow and to keep extra hose from flopping around. I have a very small
workspace. Seems fine for the Unisaw - though of course stuff is going to
fly out from the blade area without some sort of local suction over a guard.
I don't think trippling the CFM down at the bottom of the machine is going
to change that - anybody? Seems that's why everyone recommends an air
cleaner.
I'll bet this thing with a 7 foot hose on 1 machine is pretty competetive
with something 3+ times as powerful, but choked down by a large pipe network
to several machines.
Anybody ever take some measurements of a "typical" network to see how much
CFM is lost between the machine and the main collector? Maybe tons of info
is out there, just that I haven't seen it...
- Nate