Howdy,
I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
segmented rollers?
RP
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:16:03 -0800 (PST), RP <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Howdy,
> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
>New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
>after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
>lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
>thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
>can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
>segmented rollers?
>
>RP
Rubber rollers should be cleaned with methanol (wood alcohol) which
will not harm the rubber. Wood alcohol should not be inhaled,
injested, or absorbed through the skin.
Make certain your blades are sharp, clean, and aligned properly. It
is very easy to get cut, handle blades with great care.
On 7 Mar, 23:59, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Where did you hear "methanol is usually death on rubber?" =A0
Maybe not "death", but it will cause many rubbers to swell. This may
or may not be a problem, depending on application.
It's the active ingredient in "oilseal rejuvenator oil additive"
"RP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Howdy,
> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
> New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
> after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
> lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
> thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
> can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
> segmented rollers?
>
> RP
The Dewalt website recommends Mineral spirits or rubbing alcohol.
"RP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Mar 7, 4:27 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "RP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:fd0917ad-3e77-4b7a-9663-03b624a704e8@t41g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Howdy,
> > I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
> > New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
> > I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
> > after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
> > lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
> > thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
> > can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
> > Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
> > segmented rollers?
>
> > RP
>
> Would "cold" be a problem? Hard rubber can slip.
The cold could have some effect as my shop isn't heated except
when I'm in it. This rubber is pretty hard, but still somewhat
pliable. It seems as though you can move it a little after its
cleaned. A few thousandths maybe. I have also used denatured alcohol
to clean the rollers and I wax my infeed and out feed tables as well
as the platen when I clean the rollers. The blades are fairly sharp
too. Maybe I should try some MEK on them...
Of course it happens the most when I want to get something done
right now and get on with business.
Thanks, RP
For what it is worth my old portable planer would show the same symptoms
when cold and after cleaning the roller with acetone. Warm weather always
restored the grip. But in answer to your question on upgrading, I now have
a 15" stationary Delta with the seriated steel in feed roller. Those
rollers introduce a unique problem all on their own however.
"RP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:fd0917ad-3e77-4b7a-9663-03b624a704e8@t41g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
> Howdy,
> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
> New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
> after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
> lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
> thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
> can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
> segmented rollers?
>
> RP
Would "cold" be a problem? Hard rubber can slip.
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:09:58 -0500, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:16:03 -0800 (PST), RP <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Howdy,
>> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
>>New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
>> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
>>after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
>>lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
>>thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
>>can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
>> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
>>segmented rollers?
>>
>>RP
>
>
>Rubber rollers should be cleaned with methanol (wood alcohol) which
>will not harm the rubber. Wood alcohol should not be inhaled,
>injested, or absorbed through the skin.
Really? Methanol is usually death on rubber (one reason it's not recommended
in gasoline). Ethanol is generally preferred as a cleaner. Since ethanol is
the drinkable stuff, it's heavily taxed, so they "denature" it with something
for such uses.
>Make certain your blades are sharp, clean, and aligned properly. It
>is very easy to get cut, handle blades with great care.
On Mar 7, 4:27=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "RP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:fd0917ad-3e77-4b7a-9663-03b624a704e8@t41g2000yqt.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Howdy,
> > =A0 =A0 I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in centra=
l
> > New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
> > =A0 =A0 I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers an=
d
> > after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
> > lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
> > thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
> > can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
> > =A0 =A0Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
> > segmented rollers?
>
> > RP
>
> Would "cold" be a problem? =A0Hard rubber can slip.
The cold could have some effect as my shop isn't heated except
when I'm in it. This rubber is pretty hard, but still somewhat
pliable. It seems as though you can move it a little after its
cleaned. A few thousandths maybe. I have also used denatured alcohol
to clean the rollers and I wax my infeed and out feed tables as well
as the platen when I clean the rollers. The blades are fairly sharp
too. Maybe I should try some MEK on them...
Of course it happens the most when I want to get something done
right now and get on with business.
Thanks, RP
On 3/8/2010 5:27 AM, Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 7 Mar, 23:59, Phisherman<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Where did you hear "methanol is usually death on rubber?"
>
> Maybe not "death", but it will cause many rubbers to swell. This may
> or may not be a problem, depending on application.
>
> It's the active ingredient in "oilseal rejuvenator oil additive"
Motor oil and transmission fluid swell seals too. They're intended to.
Put the seal in dry, it goes in easily, soak it in oil for a bit and
it tightens up. Cuts down on production costs.
Different substances swell rubber by different amounts--I can't see
where it's really an issue for planer rollers though. Needs to be
immersed for a while to get any significant swelling anyway.
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:59:57 -0500, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:52:43 -0600, "[email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:09:58 -0500, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:16:03 -0800 (PST), RP <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Howdy,
>>>> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
>>>>New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
>>>> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
>>>>after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
>>>>lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
>>>>thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
>>>>can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
>>>> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
>>>>segmented rollers?
>>>>
>>>>RP
>>>
>>>
>>>Rubber rollers should be cleaned with methanol (wood alcohol) which
>>>will not harm the rubber. Wood alcohol should not be inhaled,
>>>injested, or absorbed through the skin.
>>
>>Really? Methanol is usually death on rubber (one reason it's not recommended
>>in gasoline). Ethanol is generally preferred as a cleaner. Since ethanol is
>>the drinkable stuff, it's heavily taxed, so they "denature" it with something
>>for such uses.
>>
>>>Make certain your blades are sharp, clean, and aligned properly. It
>>>is very easy to get cut, handle blades with great care.
>
>
>Where did you hear "methanol is usually death on rubber?" Hopefully
>not from a polymer chemist with an advanced degree in chemistry.
>;)
That's the reason given for not using it as gasoline-helper and using ethanol,
instead. OTOH, big-farming has a better lobby than bit-trees. ;-)
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:52:43 -0600, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:09:58 -0500, Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:16:03 -0800 (PST), RP <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Howdy,
>>> I have a 2 man cabinet shop/finish carpenter business in central
>>>New York and I'm having issues with my planer.
>>> I have the larger 3 blade dewally planer with rubber rollers and
>>>after 1/2 an hour or so of planing they seem to slip on me and I get
>>>lots of burn marks. I've tried cleaning them with acetone, lacquer
>>>thinner and mineral spirits to no avail. Is there another cleaner I
>>>can try or am I stuck with rollers that suck?
>>> Do I just need to break out the wallet and get a planer with
>>>segmented rollers?
>>>
>>>RP
>>
>>
>>Rubber rollers should be cleaned with methanol (wood alcohol) which
>>will not harm the rubber. Wood alcohol should not be inhaled,
>>injested, or absorbed through the skin.
>
>Really? Methanol is usually death on rubber (one reason it's not recommended
>in gasoline). Ethanol is generally preferred as a cleaner. Since ethanol is
>the drinkable stuff, it's heavily taxed, so they "denature" it with something
>for such uses.
>
>>Make certain your blades are sharp, clean, and aligned properly. It
>>is very easy to get cut, handle blades with great care.
Where did you hear "methanol is usually death on rubber?" Hopefully
not from a polymer chemist with an advanced degree in chemistry.
;)