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Creekbuster

27/10/2005 4:32 PM

What glue has a long work time

I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not have
to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.

Thanks


This topic has 25 replies

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 9:22 AM

"John B" wrote in message

> Well that put me in a slot. "An old fashioned woodorker" LOL
> John

Just as long as you're not a cow-orker ... in some states you can go to jail
for that!

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jj

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 1:58 PM

Have you considered something like Gorilla glue?

http://www.gorillaglue.com/home.htm

It has a work time of 20 minutes.

Jim
www.woodblog.com

mm

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 3:41 PM

Hide glue

j

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 5:03 PM

> I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not have to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.

For Windsor chairs --- I use Elmer's white glue. It has a long enough
setting time for an involved assembly.

Joel Jacobson

j

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 5:03 PM

> I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not have to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.

For Windsor chairs --- I use Elmer's white glue. It has a long enough
setting time for an involved assembly.

Joel Jacobson

JG

"Jeff Gorman"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 8:34 AM


<[email protected]> wrote

> Hide glue

Only if you heat the workpiece beforehand.

In fact hide glue is used for its almost instant grab properties when making
'rubbed' (ie panel) joints that are made without cramps.

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mm

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 6:48 AM

As with almost all things, it depends. Urea can be mixed in with the
glue for a longer open time. If the glue is spread and allowed to gel,
it will have an instant grab. If it's globbed thickly, it can be
worked for quite a while until it starts to set.

JK

Jim K

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

04/11/2005 5:23 AM

WEST SYSTEM Epoxy has a pot time of 40 to 50 minutes

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:32:27 -0400, Creekbuster
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not have
>to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.
>
>Thanks

b

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 5:08 PM

On 27 Oct 2005 23:51:14 GMT, Bruce Barnett
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Hide glue
>
>The ads say this has a work time up to an hour, and moist heat can
>soften it for disassembly after that time.
>There are some that are prepackaged so you don't need a glue pot.
>But the shelf life is limited (a year I think).


hide glue is the classic adhesive for fine furniture. it (and it's
analogs like rabbit glue) are the only glues that are correct for
antiques restoration. it's nice to work with for what it gives to the
assembly process, but it does involve some extra work of it's own-
mixing and heat pot maintenance mostly. one very good tip I have found
is to mix a batch and divide it into small portions and freeze them.
then heat those as needed.

Cs

"CW"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 8:01 PM


"George Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.
> >
> >R
> >
> >
>
> What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........

Did you read the subject line?

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 9:13 AM

"George Max" wrote in message
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" wrote:
>
> >Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.

> What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........

Absolutely nothing ... but it does have a shorter open time than white glue.

For that reason alone white glue is something most old fashioned woodorkers
always have on hand ... and many will use nothing else.

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JB

John B

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 2:17 PM

Swingman wrote:
> "George Max" wrote in message
>
>>On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.
>
>
>>What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........
>
>
> Absolutely nothing ... but it does have a shorter open time than white glue.
>
> For that reason alone white glue is something most old fashioned woodorkers
> always have on hand ... and many will use nothing else.
>
Well that put me in a slot. "An old fashioned woodorker" LOL
John

DD

David

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 6:42 PM

David wrote:

> Creekbuster wrote:
>
>> I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does
>> not have
>> to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> plastic resin glue
oh, not the best for a chair you may dis-assemble... :)

JG

John Girouard

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 9:36 PM

> Although I rarely glue in spindles:
>
> http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?product_id=42
>
> IIRC, it's what David J. Marks uses when he refers to "plastic resin glue".

Thanks! I've always wondered how that stuff was sold (box, bag, tube, tub).
Now having seen a container of the stuff, it should be a lot easier to find.

-John

GM

George Max

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 9:05 AM

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.
>
>R
>
>

What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........

BB

Bruce Barnett

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 11:51 PM

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:

> Hide glue

The ads say this has a work time up to an hour, and moist heat can
soften it for disassembly after that time.
There are some that are prepackaged so you don't need a glue pot.
But the shelf life is limited (a year I think).


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"Bill Leonhardt"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 10:53 AM


"Creekbuster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not
>have
> to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.
>
> Thanks

I have listened to a few talks by Frank Klausz and he is a strong proponent
of Elmers white glue, which, I believe, has a longer working time than any
of the yellow glues. Also, it's cheap enough to not have to use any that's
been on the shelf awhile.

Frank describes how he has his assistants glue up test pieces with each new
batch of glue he buys. After the glue dries (overnight), he personally
tests the test pieces by striking them with a mallet.

Sounds good to me.....

Bill Leonhardt

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 8:57 AM

Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.

R


"Creekbuster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not
>have
> to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.
>
> Thanks

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 4:14 PM


"Creekbuster" wrote in message
> I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not
have
> to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.

Although I rarely glue in spindles:

http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?product_id=42

IIRC, it's what David J. Marks uses when he refers to "plastic resin glue".

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TT

"Toller"

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 9:01 PM

TB extended has a nice long work time. It is very thin and runny, but I
like for that reason on dovetails.

DD

David

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

27/10/2005 4:01 PM

Creekbuster wrote:
> I need a glue that has a longer open or work time then TB-III. It does not have
> to be waterproof. Setting up spindles takes longer then TB-III.
>
> Thanks
plastic resin glue

GM

George Max

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 9:59 AM

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:13:56 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"George Max" wrote in message
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" wrote:
>>
>> >Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.
>
>> What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........
>
>Absolutely nothing ... but it does have a shorter open time than white glue.
>
>For that reason alone white glue is something most old fashioned woodorkers
>always have on hand ... and many will use nothing else.


Good advise. Thanks.

nn

nospambob

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 8:27 AM

Rival makes a Hot Pot Express that has variable heat ranges that is
ideal for hot hide glue. Cost under $25.00USD.

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:08:50 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>On 27 Oct 2005 23:51:14 GMT, Bruce Barnett
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> Hide glue
>>
>>The ads say this has a work time up to an hour, and moist heat can
>>soften it for disassembly after that time.
>>There are some that are prepackaged so you don't need a glue pot.
>>But the shelf life is limited (a year I think).
>
>
>hide glue is the classic adhesive for fine furniture. it (and it's
>analogs like rabbit glue) are the only glues that are correct for
>antiques restoration. it's nice to work with for what it gives to the
>assembly process, but it does involve some extra work of it's own-
>mixing and heat pot maintenance mostly. one very good tip I have found
>is to mix a batch and divide it into small portions and freeze them.
>then heat those as needed.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 11:34 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> Hide glue
>

Not to mention the feature of an "undo" button. <G>

Barry

GM

George Max

in reply to Creekbuster on 27/10/2005 4:32 PM

28/10/2005 3:58 PM

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:01:04 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"George Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >Elmers WHITE glue is all you need.
>> >
>> >R
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What's the matter with yellow glue? Inquiring minds........
>
>Did you read the subject line?
>

So I changed the subject.

Up until I'd read that posting, I'd never ever considered Elmer's
white glue for woodworking.


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