was looking at their prices and came across this
http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
it stands in that photo
would add another set of posts and a beam midspan just in case
and there are also some unfortunate knots right at the apex of the
tred cuts which could be a delayed problem
adding the treds and a railing and coats of paint and maybe some
non skid surface and the weight starts to accumulate
then there is the live loading
On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 5:25:55 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0800 (PST)
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat
> > remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to
> > tell for certain...
>
> thought it might be thicker too but it is hard to tell
>
> it is also pine so may need to be thicker
Your linked vendor specializes in rough sawn lumber...prob full 2" thick...still think it is under sized?
On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 11:37:57 AM UTC-6, Electric Comet wrote:
> was looking at their prices and came across this
>
> http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
>
>
> the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
> it stands in that photo
>
Well, it's obvious they were following the Golden Ratio for the staircase, 1 up and 1.6 across, so the cuts are normal. The Golden Ratio automatically makes for sufficient load bearing, right?
All the lumber, there, looks beefy. I doubt those folks miscalculated anything.
Sonny
On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:37:57 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> was looking at their prices and came across this
>
> http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
>
>
> the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
> it stands in that photo
>
> would add another set of posts and a beam midspan just in case
>
> and there are also some unfortunate knots right at the apex of the
> tred cuts which could be a delayed problem
Not all unfortunate knots become a problem. With the proper support and encouragement,
they can become productive embers of society. In some cases, even the most unfortunate
knots do it on their own. They pick themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of
themselves.
Please don't paint all knots with such a broad brush. If you do, at least use the proper
primer.
On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 2:44:45 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Not all unfortunate knots become a problem. With the proper support and encouragement,
> they can become productive embers of society. In some cases, even the most unfortunate
> knots do it on their own. They pick themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of
> themselves.
>
> Please don't paint all knots with such a broad brush. If you do, at least use the proper
> primer.
*still chuckling*
Good one. A favorite of mine: "He wood if he could, but he can't so he's knot."
Robert
On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:37:57 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> was looking at their prices and came across this
>
> http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
>
>
> the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
> it stands in that photo
>
> would add another set of posts and a beam midspan just in case
>
> and there are also some unfortunate knots right at the apex of the
> tred cuts which could be a delayed problem
>
> adding the treds and a railing and coats of paint and maybe some
> non skid surface and the weight starts to accumulate
>
> then there is the live loading
With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to tell for certain...
On 1/24/2018 3:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 2:44:45 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> Not all unfortunate knots become a problem. With the proper support and encouragement,
>> they can become productive embers of society. In some cases, even the most unfortunate
>> knots do it on their own. They pick themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of
>> themselves.
>>
>> Please don't paint all knots with such a broad brush. If you do, at least use the proper
>> primer.
>
> *still chuckling*
>
> Good one. A favorite of mine: "He wood if he could, but he can't so he's knot."
>
> Robert
>
Can't never could do anything.
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:37:57 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> was looking at their prices and came across this
>>
>> http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
>>
>>
>> the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
>> it stands in that photo
>>
>> would add another set of posts and a beam midspan just in case
>>
>> and there are also some unfortunate knots right at the apex of the
>> tred cuts which could be a delayed problem
>>
>> adding the treds and a railing and coats of paint and maybe some
>> non skid surface and the weight starts to accumulate
>>
>> then there is the live loading
>
>With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to tell for certain...
Looks WELL within code to me.
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0800 (PST)
[email protected] wrote:
> With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat
> remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to
> tell for certain...
thought it might be thicker too but it is hard to tell
it is also pine so may need to be thicker
On 1/24/18 11:37 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
>
> was looking at their prices and came across this
>
> http://www.welkerscustomlumber.com/resources/IMG_7179.JPG
>
>
> the stair treads look to be cut a little too deep for that span as
> it stands in that photo
>
> would add another set of posts and a beam midspan just in case
>
> and there are also some unfortunate knots right at the apex of the
> tred cuts which could be a delayed problem
>
> adding the treds and a railing and coats of paint and maybe some
> non skid surface and the weight starts to accumulate
>
> then there is the live loading
>
They look fine to me.
Also, keep in mind the wall stringer is likely tied to the wall, through
a 2x4 spacer.
I would use a cleat at the bottom, however.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 1/24/18 5:42 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 5:25:55 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0800 (PST)
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat
>>> remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to
>>> tell for certain...
>>
>> thought it might be thicker too but it is hard to tell
>>
>> it is also pine so may need to be thicker
>
> Your linked vendor specializes in rough sawn lumber...prob full 2" thick...still think it is under sized?
>
Doesn't look at thick than 1.5" to me.
Also, I don't get why pine would have to be thicker.
Pine 2x12s have been used to make literally tens of millions of
stringers in the past several decades.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 1/24/2018 3:29 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 2:44:45 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> Not all unfortunate knots become a problem. With the proper support and encouragement,
>> they can become productive embers of society. In some cases, even the most unfortunate
>> knots do it on their own. They pick themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of
>> themselves.
>>
>> Please don't paint all knots with such a broad brush. If you do, at least use the proper
>> primer.
>
> *still chuckling*
>
> Good one. A favorite of mine: "He wood if he could, but he can't so he's knot."
Seen just yesterday on an embedded-systems newsletter I subscribe to...
The Lord told the snakes "Go forth and multiply!"
"The snakes said "Oh Lord Almighty, we cannot follow your command, for
we are adders."
Thus spaketh the Lord "Go and fell those trees and build furniture out
of them. For adders can multiply with the aid of log tables".
--
On 1/24/2018 4:25 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:13:31 -0800 (PST)
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> With 3 stringers/"horses", there seems to be plenty of meat
>> remaining. Besides, looks like thicker than 2x to me, but hard to
>> tell for certain...
>
> thought it might be thicker too but it is hard to tell
>
> it is also pine so may need to be thicker
Nonsense. Obviously standard store-bought 2x12 material; look pretty
good for today's market.
Go to one of the online beam calculators and checkout what a 2x6 span is
remembering you've got three for the load. That'll be a quite
good-enough approximation to the uncut span; you can try to measure more
closely from the picture if you wish, but eyeball looks like close
enough to me...
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