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"mcgyver"

15/03/2007 2:16 PM

Design ideas for Cedar patio table

I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!) red
cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are standard
tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having and
infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your eye?
I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
lumber....thanks


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"mcgyver"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

15/03/2007 4:43 PM

Thanks, space is not a concern, 30x30 deck (yellow cedar!) It's the design
factor and wow factor that i'm after. something most people have never seen
done...... thanks
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mar 15, 7:16 am, "mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!)
>> red
>> cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are
>> standard
>> tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having
>> and
>> infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your
>> eye?
>> I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
>> alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
>> lumber....thanks
>
> take into account the space it will be going into. make a top shape
> that makes sense in that space and fit in legs or pedestal as your
> tools will allow.
>

b

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

15/03/2007 9:35 AM

On Mar 15, 7:16 am, "mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!) red
> cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are standard
> tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having and
> infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your eye?
> I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
> alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
> lumber....thanks

take into account the space it will be going into. make a top shape
that makes sense in that space and fit in legs or pedestal as your
tools will allow.

Oo

"Oughtsix"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

15/03/2007 3:47 PM

OK, Here are a couple of Ideas.
Don't make an outdoor table make several. Four 40"x40" tables each
wtih their own legs that can also be attached together would make for
a very flexible table arrangements. You could have one long table. A
big square table or four individual tables. Moving the tables would
also be a lot easier than one great big table.

Don't use cedar. Use IPE. It is a beautiful wood and lasts forever
outside.

Make the table tops a 3 x 3 grid of 11" square holes. Route a 1/2" x
3/8" grove in each of the square holes to hold ceramic tile or natural
stone tile flush with the surface of the wood. Just lay the tile in
and don't secure it so you can change it on a whim or remove it for
moving the tables. I saw an aluminium table with an open grid like
this at home depot. They had some cheap ceramic tile in it but I
thing some granite would look really sharp!

I have been tossing around these ideas in my head for my deck and I
have yet to figure out how I want to do the legs. A single metal
pedistal leg. A metal leg on each corner. Or use a lock miter and
glue 4 pieces of IPE together to form four tapered legs. I like the
idea of IPE legs at each corner. I was thinking of using a 1" female
pipe coupeling welded to a plate on each corner then glue a 1" pipe
inside the length of the leg but 2" down from the top of the leg so
the legs could be screwed on with the IPE portion of the leg tight
against the bottom side of the table.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

15/03/2007 6:39 PM

Somewhere out there there is a folding table design that is super
clever. It is an old missiom stickly era thing with a brilliant
mechanisim. I couldn't find it on google but did find one that folds
into a bench.

http://hometown.aol.com/luv2fly007/foldingpicnictable.html

Pretty clever and has plans available.

On Mar 15, 7:16 am, "mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!) red
> cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are standard
> tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having and
> infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your eye?
> I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
> alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
> lumber....thanks

Bi

Bill in Detroit

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

15/03/2007 5:17 PM

mcgyver wrote:
> Thanks, space is not a concern, 30x30 deck (yellow cedar!) It's the design
> factor and wow factor that i'm after. something most people have never seen
> done...... thanks
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mar 15, 7:16 am, "mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!)
>>> red
>>> cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are
>>> standard
>>> tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having
>>> and
>>> infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your
>>> eye?
>>> I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
>>> alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
>>> lumber....thanks
>> take into account the space it will be going into. make a top shape
>> that makes sense in that space and fit in legs or pedestal as your
>> tools will allow.
>>

Almost any design that can be printed in 2 dims can form the outline of
a table top. Scan a pic of a boat hull (person, building, vehicle,
animal -- whatever) turn it into a b/w outline drawing, enlarge (or
scale) it and saw around the outside of it. Then burn the essential
details in.
Voila! one of a kind art. If you make a human / animal profile, shape
the legs to match.

Bill

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JJ

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

17/03/2007 6:52 PM

Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 2:16pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(mcgyver) doth burbleth:
<snip> I've googled and although there are standard tables I'm looking
for something "different".<snip>

Let's see, you want a red cedar table. You want something
different. OK, make it out of oak. A red cedar table out of oak would
be different. Wouldn't it?

What do you MEAN by different? Most of us don't read minds. You
can always make a round table, even cut the center out and an an entry
way, so someone can distribute food without reacing over the shoulders
of people. Oe juar make two narrow tables, facing each other, but apart
by about 18 or so inches, so someone can walk between and distribute
food or whatever. Use your imagination, it's your table.



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

pR

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

18/03/2007 4:09 PM

Why cedar? It's soft, does not hold finishes well, does not weather
particularly well horizontally, will give people slivers, and is
"snaggy" on most clothing.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

17/03/2007 4:40 PM

Dip.

"mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bump
>

mp

"mcgyver"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

18/03/2007 10:45 PM

Hi, old growth cedar is readily available here in the northwest, will be
covered with a umbrella most if not all of the time. thanks

"RM MS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Why cedar? It's soft, does not hold finishes well, does not weather
> particularly well horizontally, will give people slivers, and is
> "snaggy" on most clothing.
>

mp

"mcgyver"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

17/03/2007 11:19 PM

JT, boy...thanks for that!!! You sure did give me some good stuff to think
about there....:-( Ya, I can make a "cedar" table... jeesh I think most on
this site can.... but i don't want to make just any table... I want
something "unique", (inlays, curved base, what have you) and my creative
mind is drawing a blank, thought I might stir some comments on what others
may have thought about doing, or some picture of one they saw ect. Thanks
for the vote of confidence though......

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 2:16pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
> (mcgyver) doth burbleth:
> <snip> I've googled and although there are standard tables I'm looking
> for something "different".<snip>
>
> Let's see, you want a red cedar table. You want something
> different. OK, make it out of oak. A red cedar table out of oak would
> be different. Wouldn't it?
>
> What do you MEAN by different? Most of us don't read minds. You
> can always make a round table, even cut the center out and an an entry
> way, so someone can distribute food without reacing over the shoulders
> of people. Oe juar make two narrow tables, facing each other, but apart
> by about 18 or so inches, so someone can walk between and distribute
> food or whatever. Use your imagination, it's your table.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
> no heavy lifting.
>

JJ

in reply to "mcgyver" on 17/03/2007 11:19 PM

18/03/2007 2:26 PM

Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 11:19pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(mcgyver) doth clarify:
<snip>. I want something "unique", (inlays, curved base, what have you)
and my creative mind is drawing a blank, <snip>

You shoulda said.

If it was me, I'd probably start by googling images, of tables.
With a pad of paper and pencil handy. I'd save anything that caught m
eye, anything. Then I'd go thru, print out things that really
interested me, discard the rest, then sketch a table I liked. Came up
with a coffee table design I like very much that way, curved legs and
all. No prob.

If it was me, wanting a patio table, I'd probbly just make a nice
large round top, maybe with about 4 chekerboards set in around the edge,
maybe a couple of backgammon boards too. If I wanted to get fancy, I'd
go ape on the base - center leg, with maybe 8 feet, something like that
- maybe carve chicken feet. Maybe just get a big stump for the foot,
and chainsaw a Tiki out of it or sumpthin'. No prob.



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

mp

"mcgyver"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 17/03/2007 11:19 PM

18/03/2007 10:47 PM

Thanks JT, been all through the google thing...well as far as my patience
could handle. ran out of search words to focus in on tables i was looking
for. wanted to find a one of a kind custom shop that did this kind of work.
thanks though, it was helpful.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Sat, Mar 17, 2007, 11:19pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
> (mcgyver) doth clarify:
> <snip>. I want something "unique", (inlays, curved base, what have you)
> and my creative mind is drawing a blank, <snip>
>
> You shoulda said.
>
> If it was me, I'd probably start by googling images, of tables.
> With a pad of paper and pencil handy. I'd save anything that caught m
> eye, anything. Then I'd go thru, print out things that really
> interested me, discard the rest, then sketch a table I liked. Came up
> with a coffee table design I like very much that way, curved legs and
> all. No prob.
>
> If it was me, wanting a patio table, I'd probbly just make a nice
> large round top, maybe with about 4 chekerboards set in around the edge,
> maybe a couple of backgammon boards too. If I wanted to get fancy, I'd
> go ape on the base - center leg, with maybe 8 feet, something like that
> - maybe carve chicken feet. Maybe just get a big stump for the foot,
> and chainsaw a Tiki out of it or sumpthin'. No prob.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
> no heavy lifting.
>

JJ

in reply to "mcgyver" on 18/03/2007 10:47 PM

18/03/2007 9:54 PM

Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 10:47pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(mcgyver) doth sayeth:
<snip>. wanted to find a one of a kind custom shop that did this kind of
work.<snip>

But if you copy a work already done your's wouldn't be unique. Ask
your wife, you'll probably be happier in the end.

Unique \U*nique"\, a. [F. unique; cf. It. unico; from L. unicus, from
unus one. See {One}.] Being without a like or equal; unmatched;
unequaled; unparalleled; single in kind



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

18/03/2007 1:38 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Let's see, you want a red cedar table. You want something
> different. OK, make it out of oak. A red cedar table out of oak would
> be different. Wouldn't it?
>

Would you put red cedar stain on it?



RR

"Richk"

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 18/03/2007 1:38 AM

20/03/2007 5:54 AM

In one of my wifes garden magazines there was a woodworker who built a
patio table using part of an unfinished hull of an old boat as the
base. It was neat, but definitely something that required a big deck
to view properly.


On Mar 20, 12:04 am, Bill in Detroit <[email protected]> wrote:
> J T wrote:
> > OK, this is my last effort. Up to you now.
> >http://www.ronjun-eshop.com/images/DF-411s.jpg
>
> JT ... where DO you get that stuff from?
>
> Bill
>
> --
> I am disillusioned enough to know that no man's opinion on any subject
> is worth (much) unless backed up with enough genuine information to make
> him really know what he's talking about.
>
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>
> http://nmwoodworks.com
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Bill in Detroit

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 18/03/2007 1:38 AM

20/03/2007 12:04 AM

J T wrote:
> OK, this is my last effort. Up to you now.
> http://www.ronjun-eshop.com/images/DF-411s.jpg
JT ... where DO you get that stuff from?

Bill


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JJ

in reply to Bill in Detroit on 20/03/2007 12:04 AM

20/03/2007 12:16 PM

Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 12:04am [email protected] (Bill=A0in=A0Detroit) stares
and queries:
JT ... where DO you get that stuff from?

Simple. Google.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&q=3Dtable+ideas+for+p=
eople+who+have+no+ideas



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

JJ

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 18/03/2007 1:38 AM

18/03/2007 10:09 PM

OK, this is my last effort. Up to you now.
http://www.ronjun-eshop.com/images/DF-411s.jpg



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

JJ

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 18/03/2007 1:38 AM

18/03/2007 9:57 PM

Sun, Mar 18, 2007, 1:38am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Edwin=A0Pawlowski) doth
query:
Would you put red cedar stain on it?

It wouldn't be a red cedar table otherwise, would it? I think it
should be painted with striped paint - I haven bought any lately tho, so
I don't know where he could buy some.



JOAT
Custom philosophizing done. No job too small; must be indoor work, with
no heavy lifting.

mp

"mcgyver"

in reply to "mcgyver" on 15/03/2007 2:16 PM

17/03/2007 1:17 PM

Bump
"mcgyver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for ideas on a custom (funky, you decide what that means!) red
> cedar patio table to seat 6. I've googled and although there are standard
> tables I'm looking for something "different". My brain is just having and
> infarct and I need some direction. What have you seen that caught your
> eye? I was trying to locate a 48-52" red cedar burl slab but very
> alloosive....therefore I think it's going to be out of dimensional
> lumber....thanks
>


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