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"larry's lair"

27/07/2005 5:44 PM

New old bandsaw 220v or 110?

I just got at an auction a Biro model 34 bandsaw for $135 and now that I
have cleaned it up a little I am not positive if it is set up to run on
220v. I think it is because the plug has one blade vertical and the other
horizontal in other words ( - ! like this). The ground pin is in the normal
position. Can anyone tell me an easy way to tell if I am correct? I don't
want to just plug it in and see what happens. After all I would hate to burn
the sucker up after almost giving myself a hernia picking this 400-500 pound
monster up and getting it home. As always thanks for the help. Larry

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larry in Cinci


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"toller"

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

27/07/2005 10:41 PM

Well, its a 20a plug, and 20a at 240v seems excessive, so it is probably
120v.

But, just to be sure
http://www.networkcable.com/pages/components/nema_nonlocking.html

You can't really make a mistake because a 120v plug won't fit a 240v outlet.

lt

"leonard"

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

27/07/2005 6:04 PM

sounds like my 220 plug

len
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sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

28/07/2005 1:10 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, its a 20a plug, and 20a at 240v seems excessive, so it is probably
>120v.
>
>But, just to be sure
>http://www.networkcable.com/pages/components/nema_nonlocking.html
>
>You can't really make a mistake because a 120v plug won't fit a 240v outlet.

Except that, with used equipment, you have no idea what sort of jackleg
modifications may have been made by a prior owner.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

27/07/2005 10:09 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "larry's lair" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I just got at an auction a Biro model 34 bandsaw for $135 and now that I
>have cleaned it up a little I am not positive if it is set up to run on
>220v. I think it is because the plug has one blade vertical and the other
>horizontal in other words ( - ! like this). The ground pin is in the normal
>position. Can anyone tell me an easy way to tell if I am correct? I don't
>want to just plug it in and see what happens. After all I would hate to burn
>the sucker up after almost giving myself a hernia picking this 400-500 pound
>monster up and getting it home. As always thanks for the help. Larry
>
Have a look here
http://www.passandseymour.com/pdf/T008.pdf
to see exactly what you have. Pay attention to the difference between plug and
receptacle configurations.

Plug like this
| --
o
is 120V 20A.

Plug like *this*
-- |
o
is 240V 20A.

Also be aware that the plug configuration does not necessarily indicate what
the motor actually needs -- it's *supposed* to match, but on used equipment,
somebody might have changed it incorrectly, and you don't have any way of
knowing that it really *does* match unless you check the motor wiring. There's
probably a diagram on the motor, or a label, that would indicate what it is.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Jj

John

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

27/07/2005 11:46 PM

You can get to the motor, and there is a ID plate, it should say

John

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:10:07 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Well, its a 20a plug, and 20a at 240v seems excessive, so it is probably
>>120v.
>>
>>But, just to be sure
>>http://www.networkcable.com/pages/components/nema_nonlocking.html
>>
>>You can't really make a mistake because a 120v plug won't fit a 240v outlet.
>
>Except that, with used equipment, you have no idea what sort of jackleg
>modifications may have been made by a prior owner.

Jj

"Jim"

in reply to "larry's lair" on 27/07/2005 5:44 PM

28/07/2005 9:32 PM


"larry's lair" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just got at an auction a Biro model 34 bandsaw for $135 and now that I
> have cleaned it up a little I am not positive if it is set up to run on
> 220v. I think it is because the plug has one blade vertical and the other
> horizontal in other words ( - ! like this). The ground pin is in the
normal
> position. Can anyone tell me an easy way to tell if I am correct? I don't
> want to just plug it in and see what happens. After all I would hate to
burn
> the sucker up after almost giving myself a hernia picking this 400-500
pound
> monster up and getting it home. As always thanks for the help. Larry
>
> --
> larry in Cinci
>
>
Look at the motor plate. It should give the wiring diagram for 120 and 240
service. Then look at the wiring on the motor to see which way it is
connected. The field windings are connected in series for 240 and in
parallel for 120.
Jim


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