Hello,
I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood on
my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
Here's the problem:
I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2 pieces
that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total of 4
of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm Saw
only cuts a maximum of about 26".
I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
(It's a real small one.)
The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26" cut,
flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw blade
with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a cut.
Any other suggestions.....?
Thanks for your time,
Sean.
"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or
> 22". (It's a real small one.)
Make a crosscut sled for the table saw and remove the fence. You should
not crosscut against the fence anyway, you are just asking for a kickback.
Use a roller stand or similar to the side of the saw to support the part
that is hanging over.
> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a
> cut. Any other suggestions.....?
Try putting a good quality plywood blade on the saw, and score the cut line
with a utility knife
I see how a longer fence with stops will work. Another method is to
cut part way through as you are doing now. Then, crank the blade up.
Now flip the board over. Crank the blade down into the already cut
slot, moving the wood left and right for perfect (as you can get it)
alignment. Then lower the blade down more and WITH POWER OFF move it
back and forth in the cut slot for further alignment adjustments. Once
you are happy with the set up, crank the blade up, push the saw back,
then crank the blade down and make the cut.
I also second Rob Ritch who suggested you make a crosscut sled for the
table saw. If you make a real nice sled, you might notice that you
aren't using your RAS as much...
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:10:41 -0600, Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> wrote:
> Max wrote:
> ...
>> That would be my experience. I have a sheet cutting rack made of 2 x 2s. I
>> use a 1" x 2" steel tube, 100" long as a guide. Clamp it at both ends.
>> I had to do some light filing on the shoe of my Milwaukee circular saw to be
>> sure it was exactly parallel with the blade. I use a freud blade.
>> I get straight, accurate cuts every time.
>
> I built a "cheap 'n cheery" panel saw essentially the same way except
> started w/ a barn door rail and a pair of rollers to hold the saw
> carriage. A sliding bolt on each end lets the whole thing adjust up and
> down and a wing nut locks it in.
You know, I've got 4 biiiiiig linear slide bearings that I've been
trying to find a use for. Are they destined to be a panel cutter,
I wonder? Has anyone used something like that for a panel cutter?
Dave Hinz
I guess I'll take issue with that last statement. I initially made a lot of
use of the table saw sled I built. However, it's been sitting on a shelf ever
since I got a RAS. (I'll bet Rumpy will love this post!)
GerryG
On 2 Mar 2005 12:30:39 -0800, "Sandwrtr" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see how a longer fence with stops will work. Another method is to
>cut part way through as you are doing now. Then, crank the blade up.
>Now flip the board over. Crank the blade down into the already cut
>slot, moving the wood left and right for perfect (as you can get it)
>alignment. Then lower the blade down more and WITH POWER OFF move it
>back and forth in the cut slot for further alignment adjustments. Once
>you are happy with the set up, crank the blade up, push the saw back,
>then crank the blade down and make the cut.
>
>I also second Rob Ritch who suggested you make a crosscut sled for the
>table saw. If you make a real nice sled, you might notice that you
>aren't using your RAS as much...
Rumpty wrote:
>
> >Safety first and foremost. If you want to cut wood, get the right tools
> and supports
>
> A DeWalt RAS will out perform any TS.
>
Except for those it won't, of course... :)
See Original Saw Company, for example...
http://www.originalsaw.com/
And it's like comparing paint--there's no comparion except on a specific
model-by-model basis that is absolute.
Rumpty wrote:
>
> >Except for those it won't, of course... :)
>
> >See Original Saw Company, for example...
> http://www.originalsaw.com/
>
> Well considering OSC bought out the DeWalt line and went forward with the
> design, I guess you are correct! ;-)
..
Yeah...ya' know I read "Delta" when you clearly wrote "DeWalt"...but I
was also thinking of the "homeowner" line of DeWalt's as well which
prompted the model-by-model comparion note...
Max wrote:
...
> That would be my experience. I have a sheet cutting rack made of 2 x 2s. I
> use a 1" x 2" steel tube, 100" long as a guide. Clamp it at both ends.
> I had to do some light filing on the shoe of my Milwaukee circular saw to be
> sure it was exactly parallel with the blade. I use a freud blade.
> I get straight, accurate cuts every time.
I built a "cheap 'n cheery" panel saw essentially the same way except
started w/ a barn door rail and a pair of rollers to hold the saw
carriage. A sliding bolt on each end lets the whole thing adjust up and
down and a wing nut locks it in.
Dave Hinz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:10:41 -0600, Duane Bozarth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Max wrote:
> > ...
> >> That would be my experience. I have a sheet cutting rack made of 2 x 2s. I
> >> use a 1" x 2" steel tube, 100" long as a guide. Clamp it at both ends.
> >> I had to do some light filing on the shoe of my Milwaukee circular saw to be
> >> sure it was exactly parallel with the blade. I use a freud blade.
> >> I get straight, accurate cuts every time.
> >
> > I built a "cheap 'n cheery" panel saw essentially the same way except
> > started w/ a barn door rail and a pair of rollers to hold the saw
> > carriage. A sliding bolt on each end lets the whole thing adjust up and
> > down and a wing nut locks it in.
>
> You know, I've got 4 biiiiiig linear slide bearings that I've been
> trying to find a use for. Are they destined to be a panel cutter,
> I wonder? Has anyone used something like that for a panel cutter?
>
Yeah, I've seen them done...I would have if I'd had a set around...
Thanks for the reference to Mr. Sawdust. I'll check that out.
Regarding my post about lowering the blade into the wood... I wasn't
actually suggesting doing that, I was actually stating that it wouldn't work
to do that.
Thanks for the advice!
Sean
"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> (That would be assuming that you put the fence in the
> rearmost position and then turned on the saw and lowered it into the wood
> at
> the back.
>
> Your suggested procedure is not recommended by anyone in the world of RAS
> users.
>
>> I'll clamp a longer
>> sheet onto the RAS table and then clamp a stop to the longer sheet.
>
> Don't, just use a longer fence and clamp your stop to the fence.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
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Sean,
Suggested reading: http://mrsawdust.com/
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"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the suggestion of replacing the fence with a longer fence.
That's
> definitely the way to go. I used a stop on a couple of smaller cuts that I
> needed to do on the last sheet I just did. I just never thought of
replacing
> the fence.
> Thanks!
> Sean
> (It's a Craftsman RAS from Sears. I've been very happy with it since I
> bought it about 5 years ago.)
>
> "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > We do this cut all the time, our RAS saws all have out feed tables which
> > we
> > use a stop on for cuts such as this. Place your panel on the table,
align
> > your "mark" to the cut on the fence (perhaps you need a fresh fence
cut),
> > pull the saw half way and return. Flip the panel over and align with
the
> > stop and finish the cut. If this method doesn't prove satisfactory your
> > saw
> > probably needs alignment. If you don't have an out feed table, replace
> > your
> > fence with a nice long fence to which you can position a stop.
> >
> > What make RAS are you using?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rumpty
> >
> > Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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> >
> > "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Hello,
> >> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of
plywood
> > on
> >> my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
> >> Here's the problem:
> >> I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
> >> I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
> >> Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2
pieces
> >> that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total
of
> > 4
> >> of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
> >> The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm
> >> Saw
> >> only cuts a maximum of about 26".
> >> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
> >> (It's a real small one.)
> >> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
> > cut,
> >> flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw
> >> blade
> >> with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
> >> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
> >> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a
> >> cut.
> >> Any other suggestions.....?
> >> Thanks for your time,
> >> Sean.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
Thanks for the reply. I am afraid that I mispoke when I said I could do a
26" cut. I meant that the length of RAS "arm" was about 26". So by the time
you knock off two or three inches at the front of the cut, and 2 or 3 inches
at the back of the cut, you end up with a maximum cut length of about 20-21
inches I think. (That would be assuming that you put the fence in the
rearmost position and then turned on the saw and lowered it into the wood at
the back. You would still be short a couple of inches from the 24" that I
need.)
I used a stop for some shorter pieces that I cut on the last sheet I was
cutting, but the RAS table is too narrow to allow a stop at the 34" mark.
Nuts! I just realized how to do that as I was typing! I'll clamp a longer
sheet onto the RAS table and then clamp a stop to the longer sheet.
Thanks for the suggestions
Sean
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sean wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood
>> on my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
>> Here's the problem:
>> I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
>> I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
>> Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2 pieces
>> that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total of
>> 4 of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
>> The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm
>> Saw
>> only cuts a maximum of about 26".
>
> So if you need to cut a 36" length off of a piece of 24" wide stock and
> your
> RAS cuts 26" then where's the problem? Are you trying to cut it in the
> rip
> position or something? If so change over to crosscut, put the fence in
> the
> back position, and cut away. If you still need to flip the piece, then
> use
> a stop. If the cuts don't match with a stop then you need to align the
> saw.
>
>> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
>> (It's a real small one.)
>> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
>> cut, flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw
>> blade with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
>> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
>> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a
>> cut.
>> Any other suggestions.....?
>> Thanks for your time,
>> Sean.
>
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Thanks for the suggestion of replacing the fence with a longer fence. That's
definitely the way to go. I used a stop on a couple of smaller cuts that I
needed to do on the last sheet I just did. I just never thought of replacing
the fence.
Thanks!
Sean
(It's a Craftsman RAS from Sears. I've been very happy with it since I
bought it about 5 years ago.)
"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We do this cut all the time, our RAS saws all have out feed tables which
> we
> use a stop on for cuts such as this. Place your panel on the table, align
> your "mark" to the cut on the fence (perhaps you need a fresh fence cut),
> pull the saw half way and return. Flip the panel over and align with the
> stop and finish the cut. If this method doesn't prove satisfactory your
> saw
> probably needs alignment. If you don't have an out feed table, replace
> your
> fence with a nice long fence to which you can position a stop.
>
> What make RAS are you using?
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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>
> "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hello,
>> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood
> on
>> my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
>> Here's the problem:
>> I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
>> I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
>> Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2 pieces
>> that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total of
> 4
>> of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
>> The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm
>> Saw
>> only cuts a maximum of about 26".
>> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
>> (It's a real small one.)
>> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
> cut,
>> flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw
>> blade
>> with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
>> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
>> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a
>> cut.
>> Any other suggestions.....?
>> Thanks for your time,
>> Sean.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
"Mike Marlow" wrote:
>> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a
>> cut.
>
> Your circular saw with a good blade in it so that you make a nice clean
> cut,
> and a guide clamped on the sheet will give you an cut edge that is as good
> as your table saw. Take your time, line it up, and saw it. Again, if
> your
> circular saw is not giving clean cuts, fix the problem.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
That would be my experience. I have a sheet cutting rack made of 2 x 2s. I
use a 1" x 2" steel tube, 100" long as a guide. Clamp it at both ends.
I had to do some light filing on the shoe of my Milwaukee circular saw to be
sure it was exactly parallel with the blade. I use a freud blade.
I get straight, accurate cuts every time.
Max
>Except for those it won't, of course... :)
>See Original Saw Company, for example...
http://www.originalsaw.com/
Well considering OSC bought out the DeWalt line and went forward with the
design, I guess you are correct! ;-)
--
Rumpty
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"Duane Bozarth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rumpty wrote:
> >
> > >Safety first and foremost. If you want to cut wood, get the right
tools
> > and supports
> >
> > A DeWalt RAS will out perform any TS.
> >
>
> Except for those it won't, of course... :)
>
> See Original Saw Company, for example...
> http://www.originalsaw.com/
>
> And it's like comparing paint--there's no comparion except on a specific
> model-by-model basis that is absolute.
We do this cut all the time, our RAS saws all have out feed tables which we
use a stop on for cuts such as this. Place your panel on the table, align
your "mark" to the cut on the fence (perhaps you need a fresh fence cut),
pull the saw half way and return. Flip the panel over and align with the
stop and finish the cut. If this method doesn't prove satisfactory your saw
probably needs alignment. If you don't have an out feed table, replace your
fence with a nice long fence to which you can position a stop.
What make RAS are you using?
--
Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood
on
> my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
> Here's the problem:
> I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
> I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
> Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2 pieces
> that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total of
4
> of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
> The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm Saw
> only cuts a maximum of about 26".
> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
> (It's a real small one.)
> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
cut,
> flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw blade
> with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a cut.
> Any other suggestions.....?
> Thanks for your time,
> Sean.
>
>
>
Sean wrote:
> Hello,
> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood
> on my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
> Here's the problem:
> I have a standard 4' x 8' piece of plywood.
> I start by cutting it in half lengthwise. (2 pieces of 24" x 96")
> Now I need to cut each of the above pieces in the following way: 2 pieces
> that are 34" x 24" and one piece that is 20" x 24". (So I need a total of
> 4 of the 34x24 and 2 of the 20x24).
> The problem comes from trying to cut the 34"x24" pieces. My Radial Arm Saw
> only cuts a maximum of about 26".
So if you need to cut a 36" length off of a piece of 24" wide stock and your
RAS cuts 26" then where's the problem? Are you trying to cut it in the rip
position or something? If so change over to crosscut, put the fence in the
back position, and cut away. If you still need to flip the piece, then use
a stop. If the cuts don't match with a stop then you need to align the
saw.
> I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
> (It's a real small one.)
> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
> cut, flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw
> blade with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a cut.
> Any other suggestions.....?
> Thanks for your time,
> Sean.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"Sean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I am having a small difficulty cutting some over-sized pieces of plywood
on
> my Radial arm saw and was looking for suggestions.
> The only solution I have been able to work out so far is to make a 26"
cut,
> flip the wood over. Use a 36" straight edge ruler to line up the saw blade
> with the cut and then cut from the other side. The drawback is that
> sometimes I am off by a 1/16th or as much as 3/32nds.
Although this is not the most graceful approach in the world, sometimes we
have to do what we have to do. You should be able to hit the kerf dead on.
Think of it this way - the mark you're making to indicate where the kerf is
that you started, is really no different at all than any other mark you make
to indicate a cut line. If you can cut a fresh piece of wood exactly where
you want to, then you should be able to cut to your kerf just as easily. If
you're off by 1/16-3/32 then you're not taking the time to line up your mark
properly, or you're moving the wood and not following you line, or you have
an alignment problem with your saw. All of those can be fixed, but the
basic practice should work.
> I suppose I could also use my skil saw, but it doesn't give as nice a cut.
Your circular saw with a good blade in it so that you make a nice clean cut,
and a guide clamped on the sheet will give you an cut edge that is as good
as your table saw. Take your time, line it up, and saw it. Again, if your
circular saw is not giving clean cuts, fix the problem.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
> (That would be assuming that you put the fence in the
rearmost position and then turned on the saw and lowered it into the wood at
the back.
Your suggested procedure is not recommended by anyone in the world of RAS
users.
> I'll clamp a longer
> sheet onto the RAS table and then clamp a stop to the longer sheet.
Don't, just use a longer fence and clamp your stop to the fence.
--
Rumpty
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:58:03 GMT, "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
>(It's a real small one.)
You will get all sorts of good advice on how to use your radial arm
saw. I watched my neighbour ripping some wood with his, and wound up
giving him a table saw ...which he still uses and makes money at it.
He still uses the RAS but for other reasons. I've used it very
effectively with a jig for doing door panels, repetetive cuts etc..
My message is simple: Safety first and foremost. If you want to cut
wood, get the right tools and supports. People make mistakes both in
material and on themselves by making do. A good investment at the
start is a good investment in the future.
A simplest solution might be to purchase, or have made, an extension
for your table saw to accommodate wider cuts supporting the same
fence, or go for a better guide-rail/fence altogether.
One saw is best for one purpose, and another for another. You can
intermingle a little, but use common sense for larger projects for one
or the other. It's not a case of one saw does all.
Your choice, of course.
>Safety first and foremost. If you want to cut wood, get the right tools
and supports
A DeWalt RAS will out perform any TS.
--
Rumpty
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"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:58:03 GMT, "Sean" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have a table saw too, but the fence only extends to about 20" or 22".
> >(It's a real small one.)
>
> You will get all sorts of good advice on how to use your radial arm
> saw. I watched my neighbour ripping some wood with his, and wound up
> giving him a table saw ...which he still uses and makes money at it.
> He still uses the RAS but for other reasons. I've used it very
> effectively with a jig for doing door panels, repetetive cuts etc..
> My message is simple: Safety first and foremost. If you want to cut
> wood, get the right tools and supports. People make mistakes both in
> material and on themselves by making do. A good investment at the
> start is a good investment in the future.
>
> A simplest solution might be to purchase, or have made, an extension
> for your table saw to accommodate wider cuts supporting the same
> fence, or go for a better guide-rail/fence altogether.
>
> One saw is best for one purpose, and another for another. You can
> intermingle a little, but use common sense for larger projects for one
> or the other. It's not a case of one saw does all.
>
> Your choice, of course.
>