Hi all,
I have been building a bar for my daughter and have reached anohter point
where I need some assistance. This time it is about finishing.
Have any of you seen CSI:Miami? In their interrogation room they have a
table that has a black mirror finish on it. That sucker is sooo black and
sooo shiny. Anyway, that is what I want for the bar. I have two horizontal
surfaces (the bar counter and the work surface) and several vertical
surfaces (face frame, drawer fronts, and door fronts) that I would like to
finish in this manner. The horizontal surfaces are MDF and the vertical
surfaces are Poplar.
So the question is, how do I get that super black, super shiny finish?
I have thought about pressure laminate and that might be ok for the
horizontal surfaces, but would not work on the vertical surfaces because of
the "drawer pulls" that I intend to use (an under-cut groove across the
faces).
The only other thing that I can think of would be black epoxy paint followed
by a clear epoxy top coat (or two) over that, and then buff it out.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Wayne
In article <[email protected]>,
NoOne N Particular <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I have been building a bar for my daughter and have reached anohter point
>where I need some assistance. This time it is about finishing.
>
>Have any of you seen CSI:Miami? In their interrogation room they have a
>table that has a black mirror finish on it. That sucker is sooo black and
>sooo shiny. Anyway, that is what I want for the bar. I have two horizontal
>surfaces (the bar counter and the work surface) and several vertical
>surfaces (face frame, drawer fronts, and door fronts) that I would like to
>finish in this manner. The horizontal surfaces are MDF and the vertical
>surfaces are Poplar.
>
>So the question is, how do I get that super black, super shiny finish?
>
>I have thought about pressure laminate and that might be ok for the
>horizontal surfaces, but would not work on the vertical surfaces because of
>the "drawer pulls" that I intend to use (an under-cut groove across the
>faces).
>
>The only other thing that I can think of would be black epoxy paint followed
>by a clear epoxy top coat (or two) over that, and then buff it out.
>
>Any other suggestions?
"MinWhacks has lacks,
Lacquer is blacker."
I have been looking into the black lacquer, but can't find a good source on
the Internet. Even DAGS, but probably just not using the right words.
Seems like I get a lot of hits about automotive paint. Might go with the
Epoxy solution.
Wayne
"Mac Cool" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> NoOne N Particular:
>
> > So far, it seems like black laquer and/or epoxy paint.
>
> black laquer
> --
> Mac Cool
NoOne N Particular wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been building a bar for my daughter and have reached anohter point
> where I need some assistance. This time it is about finishing.
>
> Have any of you seen CSI:Miami? In their interrogation room they have a
> table that has a black mirror finish on it. That sucker is sooo black and
> sooo shiny. Anyway, that is what I want for the bar. I have two
> horizontal surfaces (the bar counter and the work surface) and several
> vertical surfaces (face frame, drawer fronts, and door fronts) that I
> would like to
> finish in this manner. The horizontal surfaces are MDF and the vertical
> surfaces are Poplar.
>
> So the question is, how do I get that super black, super shiny finish?
>
> I have thought about pressure laminate and that might be ok for the
> horizontal surfaces, but would not work on the vertical surfaces because
> of the "drawer pulls" that I intend to use (an under-cut groove across the
> faces).
>
> The only other thing that I can think of would be black epoxy paint
> followed by a clear epoxy top coat (or two) over that, and then buff it
> out.
>
> Any other suggestions?
It might be worth a try to see if you can get in touch with the production
designer--his name should be in the credits (might be "art director" or
some such) and you should be able to get his contact information from imdb
pro <http://www.imdb.com> (pro is normally a pay service but there's a free
trial or was last time I checked). On the other hand, much in cinema is
"fool the eye" and the table that is shown might not be very durable.
Other things to consider--granite, black plate glass, or ordinary clear
plate glass with the back painted black. Granite's going to be heavy and
expensive, black plate glass I dunno. Odds are what they're actually using
on the set is a piece of plexiglass with the back painted black, which is
light, not horribly expensive, and would hold up fine in their use.
> Thanks,
>
> Wayne
--
--John
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:54:22 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been looking into the black lacquer, but can't find a good source on
>the Internet.
Think "Piano".
<http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=piano+refinishing+supplies+lacquer>
Barry
I thought about the glass, but then I would have a problem with it matching
everything else. I might still put glass on the two horizontal surfaces
just for durability and cleanability if nothing else.
Thanks,
Wayne
"Juergen Hannappel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
> > The only other thing that I can think of would be black epoxy paint
followed
> > by a clear epoxy top coat (or two) over that, and then buff it out.
>
> A shhet of Glass over black felt, really black, really glossy, with
> "depth", but with a problem at the edges. Also very durable.
>
> --
> Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
> mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
> Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
> CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
www.homesteadfinishing.com
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 20:54:22 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have been looking into the black lacquer, but can't find a good source on
>the Internet. Even DAGS, but probably just not using the right words.
>Seems like I get a lot of hits about automotive paint. Might go with the
>Epoxy solution.
>
>Wayne
>
>
>"Mac Cool" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> NoOne N Particular:
>>
>> > So far, it seems like black laquer and/or epoxy paint.
>>
>> black laquer
>> --
>> Mac Cool
>
"NoOne N Particular" <[email protected]> writes:
[...]
> The only other thing that I can think of would be black epoxy paint followed
> by a clear epoxy top coat (or two) over that, and then buff it out.
A shhet of Glass over black felt, really black, really glossy, with
"depth", but with a problem at the edges. Also very durable.
--
Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe
mailto:[email protected] Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869
Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany
CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23
I don't know if I want to go to all of the trouble to contact the designer.
I know the table could be anything from a $5000 original design to a piece
of plywood on some boxes and then covered with black construction paper and
glass. I just mentioned it because it has the look I want.
All of the things you mention would be good for the two horizontal surfaces,
but not the vertical surfaces (face frame, drawer fronts, etc). I would
prefer to use the same technique for both so they would match. So far, it
seems like black laquer and/or epoxy paint.
Thanks,
Wayne
<<<<<<<<<<< snippage >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> It might be worth a try to see if you can get in touch with the production
> designer--his name should be in the credits (might be "art director" or
> some such) and you should be able to get his contact information from imdb
> pro <http://www.imdb.com> (pro is normally a pay service but there's a
free
> trial or was last time I checked). On the other hand, much in cinema is
> "fool the eye" and the table that is shown might not be very durable.
>
> Other things to consider--granite, black plate glass, or ordinary clear
> plate glass with the back painted black. Granite's going to be heavy and
> expensive, black plate glass I dunno. Odds are what they're actually
using
> on the set is a piece of plexiglass with the back painted black, which is
> light, not horribly expensive, and would hold up fine in their use.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Wayne
>
> --
> --John
> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)